VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.215f] [Lust & Passion]

[lynx33]

You not so interested in the whole "relation building" aspect of such games you I see Would it be better if he just out of the blue rammed it up her ass?

Not at all. I am very for the relation building aspect of the game and while the scene as a whole does that well, that part of the scene seemed fairly superfluous. As stated elsewhere, I'd be totally happy with this game going many more episodes without a sex scene, but the pacing of certain scenes, like that one, feels off to me. I'm all for those scenes as long as they're well written, but that piece of dialogue felt like reading the intro to a "here's how you play the guitar"-book, which isn't that interesting. Again, I think this game and update is probably the best game out there and because of that I'm very critical about the things that stick out as not good enough.

 

[Viatovic]

Wait, wait.

So the problem here is that the Dev decided to do some research so a guitar lesson ACTUALLY looked and felt like one...
Are you all complaining because the Dev didn't do a poor ass job using a guitar-lesson as an excuse for some smut?

For once, a date/meeting between two characters didn't include go shopping, drinking, dining...
And your damn problem is that it's too long, too boring, too real... as opposed to what?
The only reason to want it shorter is because you want your porn time right now... or you all are gonna cry and whine and threat the Dev with pulling the pledges because you are NOT INTERESTED in what he's telling you... but you have needs and you think you are entitled so the Dev should do wharever you want.

Fuck. Off.

 

[stoper]

@Viatovic , again, for most of the people who expressed concerns about that scene, it's not about the lack of sex, damn it. The scene was too long, not just for a porn game, for ANYTHING short of an actual actual music lesson. You don't do this when telling a story. When you see a character in a TV show, or movie, or a book, learning to fight with a sword, you don't see the WHOLE process. You don't watch/read every hand grip, every slash, every parry. This is a waste of time, for the author, for the viewer, for everyone.

 

[lockhear]

Christian antifap league is here. Everyone freeze!

 

[n0b0dy]

But he's not skipping the ''foreplay''. Just slightly reducing the length. I haven't played the game, but from reading these posts there's apparently a lot of renders and dialogue in these scenes. Cutting out a few lines and renders won't damage them that much.

From his wording it looks like he is going to reduce the amount of dialogue and scenes of casual moments which means he might cut the length of (some of ) these scenes greatly or cut them altogether. But if you like those kind of scenes the current length of them does not feel long at all and the dialogue is not really that long, I would say they are around the minimum length that is necessary for such scenes to not make them feel rushed. You can be sure those who complain about the length do not read to many books and have a very short attention span.

Christ, that sounds like such a drag. XD

It would not be if the girls were actually interesting but they are just walking anime stereotypes with no depth and the overall story is not at all interesting also. Bought it on the mangagamer website on a whim since it is one of their best selling titles and has a lot of positive reviews and it is probably the worst purchase I have ever done. Never decide to buy porn when you are horny :tiredface:

You mean like how they already did with the intro scenes? :FeelsBadMan: A very sad moment for me, but KoD is still going strong. A few less scenes, as much as I loved them, aren't stopping me from enjoying the rest of the game, which is still just as good. Hopefully it will be the same for you with this game.
But hell, what do I know? I'm not invested in the story like you guys, so obviously I'm not as worried. I'm just saying, wait and see first. And then, if it's not good enough, we can all start crying together. Like I did for those KoD scenes. :'(

The problem is not there will be less scenes but there will be less of a particular kind of scenes that are relatively rare in porn and it is therefore harder to find a substitute elsewhere. Also you should not see a game like this as a bunch of separated scenes, scenes that contribute to the build-up and characterization also contribute greatly to the value of the other scenes in my eyes so if they become less all scenes become less. But yeah we can't judge fully before we see the next updates but I am a grown-ass man and I'll cry when I want

Explaining in detail how the guitar works. Showing several chords with several render changes and sounds going with them. For me as a musician who does know how to play guitar it was mildly funny, but ultimately boring as it was so basic. For someone who's not into the guitar or musical theory it must have been just nonsense. I appreciate that he wanted to showcase their mutual love and knowledge of music, but it could have been done with a much shorter summary of what we saw in that part. It felt more like the child/teen versions of "a musician explains a musicial concept to five different levels of advancement"-videos that some music mag puts on youtube than anything else.

The reason Sophia went Sam's house was the guitar-lesson so it would be very strange and unnatural if there would have been little focus on that. And how long was the guitar-lesson explanation really? Just a few cords and the basic lay-out of a guitar, even if you are a slow reader it could not have taken you more than 3 minutes.

The point of that scene was not to teach us about playing a guitar, it helps to make us capable of seeing Sam as something more than just the pervy friend of Dylan and it works as a bridge to the more explicit sexual content that follows the lesson. I really don't think any of the scenes that followed would have worked (for me) if the dev would have cut the length of the guitar lesson since that would bring it in "Lilly of the Valley" territory where really the dev does not even try to make of the characters and their actions anything else than just bland and unintelligent vehicles to the sex scenes.

 

[Bonobosaurus]

Guys you have passionate people speaking about the things they like. Of course it takes time. Here there is a game in which guys try to seduce ladies they like by seaking about arts (museum scene), or Led Zepelin. Can't you just enjoy this ? Can't you just let us enjoy this ? Is it to hard to understand that some may like sex scenes to come with some build up ? Once again, there is trillions of storyless games, let us have only one, done by artists that like what they do.

 

[lockerxx]

finally mi pc is fixed and i can play 0.02 upgrade.
i liked a lot the soccer mom scene:heartcoveredeyes:.
Lust & Passion please a little more of nude in the shower.

 

[titokm10]

Wait, wait.

So the problem here is that the Dev decided to do some research so a guitar lesson ACTUALLY looked and felt like one...
Are you all complaining because the Dev didn't do a poor ass job using a guitar-lesson as an excuse for some smut?

For once, a date/meeting between two characters didn't include go shopping, drinking, dining...
And your damn problem is that it's too long, too boring, too real... as opposed to what?
The only reason to want it shorter is because you want your porn time right now... or you all are gonna cry and whine and threat the Dev with pulling the pledges because you are NOT INTERESTED in what he's telling you... but you have needs and you think you are entitled so the Dev should do wharever you want.

Fuck. Off.

Guitar Lessons was boring af so You.Fuck.Off. and let the people get what they want its a porn game not an erotica novel. The dev realised that and hes making the right move.

 

[rodneyeatme]

You can be sure those who complain about the length do not read to many books and have a very short attention span.

This might be the funniest thing I have read on this site to date. People who enjoy more sex than exposition in a fap game, and express this on a fap game website, are barbarians.

Thank you. That was excellent.

 

[ponyguy]

From his wording it looks like he is going to reduce the amount of dialogue and scenes of casual moments which means he might cut the length of (some of ) these scenes greatly or cut them altogether. But if you like those kind of scenes the current length of them does not feel long at all and the dialogue is not really that long, I would say they are around the minimum length that is necessary for such scenes to not make them feel rushed. You can be sure those who complain about the length do not read to many books and have a very short attention span.

The problem is not there will be less scenes but there will be less of a particular kind of scenes that are relatively rare in porn and it is therefore harder to find a substitute elsewhere. Also you should not see a game like this as a bunch of separated scenes, scenes that contribute to the build-up and characterization also contribute greatly to the value of the other scenes in my eyes so if they become less all scenes become less. But yeah we can't judge fully before we see the next updates but I am a grown-ass man and I'll cry when I want

Fair enough. Like I said, what the hell do I know? I can't tell you how to feel. I'd be a hypocrite. Like you said, this is something that's rare in porn. Meanwhile, rape is something that's plentiful and yet I would still cry and moan if there was suddenly less of it. XD

It would not be if the girls were actually interesting but they are just walking anime stereotypes with no depth and the overall story is not at all interesting also. Bought it on the mangagamer website on a whim since it is one of their best selling titles and has a lot of positive reviews and it is probably the worst purchase I have ever done. Never decide to buy porn when you are horny :tiredface:

I don't think I could last that long even if they were interesting. At least not if I went into the game with the sole intention of fapping.
You should've pirated it first.

 

[Viatovic]

@Viatovic , again, for most of the people who expressed concerns about that scene, it's not about the lack of sex, damn it. The scene was too long, not just for a porn game, for ANYTHING short of an actual actual music lesson. You don't do this when telling a story. When you see a character in a TV show, or movie, or a book, learning to fight with a sword, you don't see the WHOLE process. You don't watch/read every hand grip, every slash, every parry. This is a waste of time, for the author, for the viewer, for everyone.

Wrong.
I already said that some scenes in the last update were long.
Like, maybe he could have cut 20-30 renders. But text-wise? In the narrative? It was a hell of a show.
And people here are complaining not because the narrative is boring... but because they want sex, they want naughtiness right now.

And now you use other entertainment as example... well, let's look at it.
A faithful and prude wife would NEVER ever fall in one day, much less a week.
There would have been a lot of meetings just before X guy could enter in her private space and start with the little touches.

But let's forget about that for a minute... because it seems that you didn't understand the meaning behind the lesson.
It was not about "learning", it was about giving them something to share, so we could understand why a 40 year old woman feels attracted to a "boy", without using muscles and giant cocks as reason.
So yeah, we got at least three or four pages of erotic content, what's the problem?
Oh, right... there was no nudity, no peeking, no molesting... so there was not fap.

Foreplay is a thing, you all knew this, right?

Christian antifap league is here. Everyone freeze!

I hope you are joking.
I'm a fan of all kind of games.
Even other corruption games that take the fast approach like Elena's Life, Sarah's Life, Anna Exciting Affection.
They are what they are... and it's fine.
Here we got a game that tries to offer us something different... so let's whine, complain, and cry with all we got so it resembles the other hundred games we already got.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Guitar Lessons was boring af so You.Fuck.Off. and let the people get what they want its a porn game not an erotica novel. The dev realised that and hes making the right move.

Actually its an adult game and adult doesn't necessary mean hardcore porn. It cover a lot of ground. Eventually when you grow up you will figure it out...

 

[Viatovic]

I meant me. Not you :closedeyesmile: . I am the Spanish inquisition. So you didn't expect me

I'm from Spain, my man... so yeah, I'm ready for you.

Again, this is a porn game? Yeah.
But with an adult approach. Like an old porn movie, there is some story here.
Some ambition too, maybe too much, we'll see...

 

[stoper]

@Viatovic , I keep saying I don't care about the lack of sex in the scene, but you refuse to understand that and you keep bringing it up. You're starting to piss me off, so I'll stop arguing with you.
The guitar scene was the best thing I've seen in my life, a true craftsmanship in story-telling and prose. There, I hope you can understand that.

 

[titokm10]

Guys you have passionate people speaking about the things they like. Of course it takes time. Here there is a game in which guys try to seduce ladies they like by seaking about arts (museum scene), or Led Zepelin. Can't you just enjoy this ? Can't you just let us enjoy this ? Is it to hard to understand that some may like sex scenes to come with some build up ? Once again, there is trillions of storyless games, let us have only one, done by artists that like what they do.

Go watch pretty little liars you'll love it

I'm from Spain, my man... so yeah, I'm ready for you.

Again, this is a porn game? Yeah.
But with an adult approach. Like an old porn movie, there is some story here.
Some ambition too, maybe too much, we'll see...

Bro watch taboo 1 with kay parker, what makes that movie great is the story but the movie starts with a sex scene, you know why? Because its a freaking Porn Movie !

 

[hopeless]

need complressed version plox

 

[n0b0dy]

This might be the funniest thing I have read on this site to date. People who enjoy more sex than exposition in a fap game, and express this on a fap game website, are barbarians.

Thank you. That was excellent.

If people just want to fap and don't care about the story they should just say so but they should not pretend like they want anymore from the story then straight porn, that's all I'm saying. And maybe they should move on to one of the billions of pieces of media where they can do just that and not start complaining when a few developers have the guts to try something different.
I believe the scene has around 300 words, I mean if you complain that is too long it is clear you are only interested in the explicit sexual content, and again that is fine but do not pretend like you want anything else from this game than Sophia getting fucked by a hobo without any context or build-up and before you start to complain about unnecessary scenes try to keep in mind not everybody likes their porn without build-up/story.

 

[Bonobosaurus]

I think this thread need moderation. You guys are on full troll mode. It's a shame that you can't allow anything out of your personnal fapping range. I hope the author stays true to his work and keep the good job he has done up to now. Sad about your total lack of tolerance. Never dare mock a game about his total lack of consistency, because we'll be on your back.

 

[lockhear]

Sophia getting fucked by a hobo

Sounds promising to me :closedeyesmile:

 

[User_215882]

I think some people, note some, just didn't read the page like I did. First this is an adult game. Any average Joe is thinking cool an adult game it must mean I'm gonna get a good fap. Then you read takes place over 30 days. Shouldn't have too much of a build up then should it? Granted some is acceptable, but it's not too drawn out. Finally the amount of renders. Granted I thought they were used pretty well, but if your highlight for an update is it has x amount of renders you might think it's spread out to include other things like tits and not a guitar scene. He's not doing bad, but again this takes place over 30 days. I'm sure the next update is meant to get to the point why some people pledge to keep them happy and it's not like it doesn't work.