GingerSweetGirl

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I'm genuinely hoping that the ladies are very flirtatious and suggestive in their words and gestures and behavior but I sincerely hope there is zero sexual contact with the boys: no hugging, no kissing, no butt or boob grabbing, no exposing of tender bits, none of it. Everything should be suggested, everything should be geared towards the ladies leading the boys on, alluring them and arousing them but stopping short of anything actually happening.

After leaving the boys and the museum, Patricia is laughing/giggling and ebullient, talking about how much fun it was to leave those poor boys with blue balls.
Sophia looks at Patricia and sort of cracks a half smile, just the corner of one side of her mouth raised. Says nothing.
Patricia says something like "Oh, come on, don't tell me that wasn't - "
She is cut off by Sophia grabbing Patricia by the waist, pulling her in close forcefully and planting a fantastically deep and passionate kiss on her sister. Patricia eagerly accepts.
And then, as Sophia's hands move over Patricia's hips and down to her ass, Patricia cups Sophia's breasts with one hand and plants her other hand on the small of her back, she lets out a soft moan of "oh, Sophia, you have no idea how long ... " and then the scene immediately cross-cuts to Dylan at home, sitting on the side of the bathtub clipping his toenails. Because we want these characters to seem real and have real lives, like going to the dentist and sitting in traffic and stuff.
I can see something like that happening, but I think it will happen in front of the boys. I don't think you set the scene with the boys unless you intend on using them- and simply being flirtatious is not enough. The boys will play more of a role than being passive witnesses, but they won't be actively engaged with the girls either.
 

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I can see something like that happening, but I think it will happen in front of the boys. I don't think you set the scene with the boys unless you intend on using them- and simply being flirtatious is not enough. The boys will play more of a role than being passive witnesses, but they won't be actively engaged with the girls either.
Even when Jason and Haru know they're sisters? I don't think Sophia is comfortable with people knowing what she gets up to with Dylan and Ellie. She even keeps most of what she gets up to with Ellie from Liam.
 
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Even when Jason and Haru know they're sisters? I don't think Sophia is comfortable with people knowing what she gets up to with Dylan and Ellie. She even keeps most of what she gets up to with Ellie from Liam.
I'm staking my place, I think there will definitely be some sort of action in front of the boys. The thing is though that the action may skirt right along that line of appropriate/inappropriate for what two sisters may do. It'll be the kind of action that may make the boys take notice but that can be brushed aside. Sophia will justify it as something like "well, it's just my sister, and we're not having sex, so it's ok."
 
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Actually, I think we'll get more than we expect. The game's action is picking up, so I don't think we'll get the classic "touching fabric" meme that we joke about. I don't think Sophia will be a passive actor in the scene either, I think she'll actively engage in some sexy fun. More than likely, in my opinion, it will be some fun between Patricia and Sophia as they tease the boys. If the boys do get involved Patricia will take the lead, but I don't think Sophia will be too shy either.
Well said Ginger the Girl.
 

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I'm staking my place, I think there will definitely be some sort of action in front of the boys. The thing is though that the action may skirt right along that line of appropriate/inappropriate for what two sisters may do. It'll be the kind of action that may make the boys take notice but that can be brushed aside. Sophia will justify it as something like "well, it's just my sister, and we're not having sex, so it's ok."
Whereas I think it will just be flirting, purely for the reason that Patricia wants to show Sophia that there are some things that are relatively harmless. Like how so far, Sophia has got naked in front of other women in the shower. Liam even knows about it, and is fine with it. He even fantasies about her and Nathalie.

Also remember that Sophia likely hasn't really flirted with anyone in almost twenty years. The prison event would have been the first time Sophia has done anything of the sort since she started going out with Liam. So she'll be understandably rusty. Flirting with someone just for the fun of it, that isn't her husband, is going to be a huge thing for her.

Patricia will likely be watching closely, like was during the Yoga event. Might even "practice flirt" during the horse ride.

What you're suggesting sounds more like a possibility for the playable day 16 "wild" event.
 

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I really want to avoid this topic about the "Dark Secret" as it's been discussed over the last couple of years, and to most Dylan Fans, it is controversial. But here you go... You can read it for yourself.
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start on this page and read for about 30 pages to get the details.

The Dylan/Emma option may actually be Sophia/Emma. We'll have to see how that story plays out.


The Dylan twist was essentially that Aiden and Dylan were secretly plotting against Sophia/Mrs Parker/Mom. Aiden would "bully" Dylan and he ran to her for help and an attempt to blackmail and extort protagonist. It was a stupid "secret twist" and I'm glad AF it was taken out. What a dumb idea. The genuine blackmail is fun
 

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Even when Jason and Haru know they're sisters? I don't think Sophia is comfortable with people knowing what she gets up to with Dylan and Ellie. She even keeps most of what she gets up to with Ellie from Liam.
I'm with you - it will hopefully be really, really flirty and suggestive but I don't think they will kiss or anything like that in front of the boys. Well, I say "think" but I really mean "hope", it's my preference.

I'm staking my place, I think there will definitely be some sort of action in front of the boys. The thing is though that the action may skirt right along that line of appropriate/inappropriate for what two sisters may do. It'll be the kind of action that may make the boys take notice but that can be brushed aside. Sophia will justify it as something like "well, it's just my sister, and we're not having sex, so it's ok."
Sophia may think that in her monologue but I doubt she'd say it. But then again, she did recently talk herself into tugging pubescent penes, so I suppose anything's possible at this point.

But when you say "some sort of action" it makes me think how great it would be if Sophia had recently gone to an art studio and done some semi-nude modeling and got really turned on by the experience. If she had it might occur to her, in the museum setting, that it might be fun to act out some of the poses from Baroque/Romance period paintings. Sort of a high-brow game of twister for educated adults.

Sadly, due to story branching and mutually exclusive routes this would not make any sense at all to a fair number of players.
 

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Dylan romances with at least 9 or more girls, So Dylan needs more events, and Dylan, like Sophia, has events every day. Dylan stays with every PD and until the last day
If in the game Dylan is supposed to have an affair with 9 or even more girls and ladies! Then it becomes extremely interesting to me, how many sexual partners will Sofia have?
I guess Sorfia should have more sex partners than her son? She's in charge of the AWAM!

Very interesting, what are the opinions of the public on this matter?
 

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Yes I agree with you(y). L&P rewritten Dylan's daily events and scripts

becouse Given the recent updates and the time it takes to update L&P each time and the small changes and Dylan's different distribution methods, L&P definitely feels like the script has been rewritten.





Elli had no events on playable day 13, she had 0 events that day but Elli had two events with Dylan on PD 13. If you look closely at AWAM road maps you will know about the changes.

No wonder Dylan's events are two events a day, as there are many ways Dylan can take up as much screen time as Sophia,

Dylan romances with at least 9 or more girls, So Dylan needs more events, and Dylan, like Sophia, has events every day. Dylan stays with every PD and until the last day


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Then the game should be renamed. For example, " A son and mother" . Or "A guy fucking all women around him, like in any other game." The more Dylan gets his own stories, the more the game loses all uniqueness.
 

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Perhaps when they share the same room?

(What was the ranch again? Was it a relatives ranch? Bed and Breakfast? Some relation to Patricia and/or her Husband?
At the Yoga event if you've doing Aiden's tasks and have maximum relationship with Patricia, she invites Sophia to her friend Zoe's horse ranch, about 40 miles out from San Alejo. Pretty much, if not all, of playable day 15.

I believe if, like me, you're not doing Aiden's tasks, Sophia will get invitation on playable day 14.
If in the game Dylan is supposed to have an affair with 9 or even more girls and ladies! Then it becomes extremely interesting to me, how many sexual partners will Sofia have?
I guess Sorfia should have more sex partners than her son? She's in charge of the AWAM!

Very interesting, what are the opinions of the public on this matter?
I believe Sophia will be able to have up to five. Liam, Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia.
 

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Alyssa too I believe. I would even go as far as saying she is the best option there is for Sophia.
I might have misinterpreted the question. I was more looking at LIs, which was what my answer was more counting.

And what you consider "sex". For some, hetero penetrative sex is the only thing that matters. As opposed to sexual, which Sophia already has Dylan, Sam, Ellie, Jules, Patricia, Vicky, possibly this update Nat, Alyssa, the old guys, two of the apostles, Aiden - off the top of my head.
 
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In terms of the new update with the event that will have the Sam concert, it´s as feared only for January or December or any news regarding this for September when it was supposed to release in the first place?
 

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Then the game should be renamed. For example, " A son and mother" . Or "A guy fucking all women around him, like in any other game." The more Dylan gets his own stories, the more the game loses all uniqueness.
Quoting myself from April (#56,983), my feelings about Dylan-centric point of view scenes:

See, that's a great story line, but it's not Sophia's story line and that is where I want this story to focus.

If L&P decides this part of Sophia's world, occurring outside of her perception and beyond her knowledge, needs to be explored then they should create a spin off and call it The Lusty Horny Late-Teenage Boy Pursues His Mother and His Sister and His Aunt and All Their Friends And Associates.

Overview:
Dylan, a [man of legal age in your jurisdiction] recently moved to beautiful, sunny San Alejo, where he starts developing strong sexual urges towards just about every female that is a blood relation, and even a few who aren't. With so many hot women around and so many men (and women!) pursuing them, Dylan struggles to compete for their attention and affection.

Will Dylan have to be devious or charming in his efforts to beat out everyone pursuing his mother's jewels? Will Dylan even be able to pull his uptight and conservative mother away from her marriage vows? Will Dylan be able to rescue his mother from the blackmail plot being carried out under the flimsiest of pretenses by the ultra-rich school-aged gang leader with a sweet ride and fantastic hair, who is pushing her towards deviancy and debauchery? Can Dylan convince his sometimes bitchy but incredibly hot bisexual-experimentalist sister to come along for the ride? So many women, so many possibilities!

Some decisions maybe have to be made unwillingly.
And in the end he has to ask himself… how far can he go.​


Sorry [snip] Dylan enthusiasts, but fuck that.
 

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Even when Jason and Haru know they're sisters? I don't think Sophia is comfortable with people knowing what she gets up to with Dylan and Ellie. She even keeps most of what she gets up to with Ellie from Liam.
Precisely because Haru and Jason know that the two are sisters, they will see any incestuous lesbian interaction between them as an attempt to turn them on and seduce them. As long as the two sisters stay above the belt with their actions, I see no reason whatsoever for restraint. Because they are grown women and sisters, the two of them will always assume that everything they see is only for the purpose of playing with them (the boys). Only Sophia could go too far and stop the game. Since I make the decisions for Sophia as a player, I have nothing to worry about.
As a starting point for the beginning of the game, I see an erotic sculpture or picture with which the two women can then be compared. This has already been suggested by others here in the forum.
 

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If in the game Dylan is supposed to have an affair with 9 or even more girls and ladies! Then it becomes extremely interesting to me, how many sexual partners will Sofia have?
I guess Sorfia should have more sex partners than her son? She's in charge of the AWAM!

Very interesting, what are the opinions of the public on this matter?
I'm thinking most of those 9 could and should be shared with Sophia!!!
 
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At the Yoga event if you've doing Aiden's tasks and have maximum relationship with Patricia, she invites Sophia to her friend Zoe's horse ranch, about 40 miles out from San Alejo. Pretty much, if not all, of playable day 15.

I believe if, like me, you're not doing Aiden's tasks, Sophia will get invitation on playable day 14.

I believe Sophia will be able to have up to five. Liam, Dylan, Sam, Ellie and Patricia.
I know it's years in the future, but this update will be an absolute nightmare because of all the new environments. If it's going to be an all day event, it may take two years to complete at the current rate of development.
 

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I'm thinking most of those 9 could and should be shared with Sophia!!!
Where are people getting 9 women for Dylan from? I know Amber, Emma and Sophia are gonna happen Marie is all but assured and Ellie and Christine might not even happen but if they do thats 6 at most and only one per playthrough.
 
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Then the game should be renamed. For example, " A son and mother" . Or "A guy fucking all women around him, like in any other game." The more Dylan gets his own stories, the more the game loses all uniqueness.
Quoting myself from April (#56,983), my feelings about Dylan-centric point of view scenes:

See, that's a great story line, but it's not Sophia's story line and that is where I want this story to focus.

If L&P decides this part of Sophia's world, occurring outside of her perception and beyond her knowledge, needs to be explored then they should create a spin off and call it The Lusty Horny Late-Teenage Boy Pursues His Mother and His Sister and His Aunt and All Their Friends And Associates.

Overview:
Dylan, a [man of legal age in your jurisdiction] recently moved to beautiful, sunny San Alejo, where he starts developing strong sexual urges towards just about every female that is a blood relation, and even a few who aren't. With so many hot women around and so many men (and women!) pursuing them, Dylan struggles to compete for their attention and affection.

Will Dylan have to be devious or charming in his efforts to beat out everyone pursuing his mother's jewels? Will Dylan even be able to pull his uptight and conservative mother away from her marriage vows? Will Dylan be able to rescue his mother from the blackmail plot being carried out under the flimsiest of pretenses by the ultra-rich school-aged gang leader with a sweet ride and fantastic hair, who is pushing her towards deviancy and debauchery? Can Dylan convince his sometimes bitchy but incredibly hot bisexual-experimentalist sister to come along for the ride? So many women, so many possibilities!

Some decisions maybe have to be made unwillingly.
And in the end he has to ask himself… how far can he go.​


Sorry [snip] Dylan enthusiasts, but fuck that.
farrah exaggerates by thinking that everything is about Dylan. He overlooks the fact that Ellie has already reached much more with Sophia than any other character in the game (filthy route). Especially Dylan. Ellie has a huge head start over Dylan with Sophia, though he may have more game events. farrah has just only withdrawal symptoms. ;) And why does everything focus on Dylan? Because he is simply the cash machine of the game.
 
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