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whatmade sabertooth put me down as a troll because i said update the third week of februar now the developer will put it out at the end of february so probably not before mid- marchend of f'in' february, so he still needs 28 days to release this goddam update
I think the verbal pressure exerted by his supporters is already very great. And not only his supporters, but also here in the forum he constantly gets to hear criticism about his work speed and work organization. That he feels this pressure can be seen from some of his angry and inappropriate reactions here in this forum. I don't believe that his supporters could force him to work faster by not giving L&P money anymore. Let's assume I'm a lazy developer, or I've run out of ideas. But I have gotten used to the money. But now more and more supporters are leaving, the flow of money is decreasing. This will not change the attitude of the developer to his work. What will happen is that the developer tries with minimal effort to milk his FREE supporters with, for example, monthly teasers. In no case he will work faster again. Real power would get the supporters only if the contract terms would be changed. For example, that a backer could reclaim his money or a part of it if the developer does not deliver. But that would contradict the basic idea of this platform, which is to promote ideas that no one would support in the first place. On if it has now only degenerated into a business model.
- Jul 17, 2019
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this part is fantastic, he has looked for and hired a collaborator and now he puts the blame on him.
Either he is deleting these comments or I just can not find these from paying customers. Yes there is one once a while but thats it. Most people are excited and praising him.
- Jul 17, 2019
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hey man, if you're a 38.5 supporter of his, could you ask L&P why he puts the blame for the delay on his assistant?
assistant who has sought, chosen and hired for changes decided by him?
thank you
- Jul 12, 2020
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where does he this? Honestly some people.
He said it is not just because of me can mean a ton of stuff. Especially if you dont ignore the fact that he is swichting Render methods or Applications and had troouble with that. He never said it is because of a Person.
- Jul 17, 2019
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https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-150-lust-passion.5944/page-4261#post-7432956
if I misunderstood, explain to me.
but other users have the same feeling as me.
I will try to ask L&P directly by mail
AGain it can be trouble with tools and applications he is using now who knows. I also seen post where he said he found someone who helped him a lot also explaining and teaching stuff.
Also note that many people are only here to complain how long it takes. When an update is released they say 5 minutes of content and complain again until the next update.
- Sep 22, 2017
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Too much complaining around here. No one forces you to stay here or to keep following this game. If you don't like it, there are other alternatives (or not?). So much for getting a game for free.
Morbid desire to see a chaste woman falling on a pair of cocks.
It's maybe a couple of years since I discussed this with any seriousness on this thread & of course it was in relation to AWAM's production rate. I had a strange "snakes & ladders" working life but I did spend 15 years of it as a HR practitioner & should, in theory, be able to come up with ideas on how to replace a problematic model of working which is clearly no longer fit for purpose.
I keep coming back to the issues of patronage & creativity. IMO there needs to be a form of Payment By Results (PBR) but this should recognise that creativity is not the same as working on an assembly line, (which I've also done), so flexibility on all sides would be essential. This might encompass a movable deadline but ultimately there would have to be a cut-off point where either payment would cease, or refunds became due. There would also have to be a "no fault" clause to cover unforseen issues. Patrons as 'Commissioners of Creativity' would become straightforward customers. Flexibility issues would need to be covered in the contractual agreement. It's not simple & when I was working I mistrusted PBR, which like all systems, is open to abuse. There is nothing which cannot be solved, however, so that a mutually beneficial business model could result.
I've no doubt that the Dev is well aware of the pressure surrounding the pace of production but currently this is pressure without consequence & can safely be ignored, tolerated, or answered with a rant. There is only the prospect of patrons voting with their wallets to provide some type of (negatively oriented) incentive to deliver & there are various reasons why this does not happen to the extent that might be expected in the case of the "big games", like AWAM.
I doubt that there is a genuine prospect for change at the present time. What IS changing regularly is the production rate, which is beginning to grind to a halt. Project management skills are not that easy to find but sometimes I think L&P could have done with a manager....like a rock band!
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In short, see you in February! Ps/ We are waiting for an unforgettable impression from the update.....
- May 29, 2020
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I have always seen that L&P and his best friend DPC release the chapters in the same month so if the short episode of the DPC game comes out in February as you can speculate after reading his last update on Patreon this game could also have the update in February
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So the new/special/surprise/whatever thing can be seen in a teaser? That's kinda cancelling out the possibility of animations, no? Also, funny how he's calling high tier patrons "more loyal" just because they're throwing more money into this sinkhole.
Practically done with scene creation, but still requires an entire month to finish the update? So this "new thing" apparently slows down writing and photoshop work aswell? Kinda weird, no? Especially since this update will most likely consist of way less renders than previous ones, and even those barely took him a month to finish the writing/photoshopping. Slowing down progress on literally every front possible.
I don't get why he's hyping this release up as such a super awesome special one, when this new feature will make an even larger impact in future updates. As he said himself in previous statements, we'll only get a first look at this new thing in the upcoming release, implying that it'll likely have an even larger impact in future releases. (And even slower updates aswell?)
Then again, honestly, reading this mess is just as confusing as always. Is he even talking about this "new thing" regarding the teaser, or is it only about the bonus event?
"All I can promise that it will be a pretty special update! When I give you an approximate release time span, you will see at the latest what I was talking about all the time! But for some of my more loayal patrons who just can't wait anymore, I could show at least a little teaser. Only if you won't share it anywhere else, of course!"
Since he was talking about this "new thing" all the time like it's the holy grale of VN's, I'd assume that's what he wants to showcase in the bonus teaser? So what now? Is the bonus event the "new thing", or is there actually a new feature? This entire post is so poorly written, it could've been posted by a 12 year old for all I know. Guess we'll know more once he gives us the approximate release date. Or maybe not...
I still stand by my previous statement that he's likely not even have any helpers and just started working with Blender himself and that's it. Easy (and weak) way to come up with excuses for more delays without taking the blame himself.
Anyway, end of February release means roughly 3 months and 10 days for 1/10th of a PD, and almost 3 years to finsish this playable day 13 if this is the new norm per update. Just wow. Amazing.
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