VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[mike021]

End of February ??? Did he misspelled January??

LMAO. He's just stringing us along. It's L&P's usual festival of bullshit excuses.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

A lot of talk, a lot of discussion and in the end no one listens from the developers

You mean: no one holds them accountable by stopping payments until motivation restored?

 

[BorgiaBou]

Also, funny how he's calling high tier patrons "more loyal" just because they're throwing more money into this sinkhole.

Yep this is the moment if i was one of the "lesser" patreon i would've told him to go f himself and stoped being his patreon, if this doesn't show how much this f'in' guy cares about some patreons i dunno what else... "more loyal" my ass... maybe more stupid for trowing so much money at him...

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

So apparently people who pay more are more loyal than people who have been supporting him longer. Got it.

On another note, if he is almost done with scene creation, can any L&P fan clarify why does he need the SAME amount of time to post-process LESS images and translate a SMALLER scene?

I would really like to know the justification for this.

For those wondering if you should pay the 38.50 to see a teaser, don't do it, I'm sure a hero will show up

 

[Rodrigo Tannuri]

Wow, what a bad news!
The creator of the game better keep his promise and present an excellent update to the players or else he will witness a riot.
He makes a lot of promises and doesn't develop the game very much.
Sofia doesn't deserve this.
There is no need for so much whimsy. Do the basics, because it works.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

So the new/special/surprise/whatever thing can be seen in a teaser? That's kinda cancelling out the possibility of animations, no? Also, funny how he's calling high tier patrons "more loyal" just because they're throwing more money into this sinkhole.

Practically done with scene creation, but still requires an entire month to finish the update? So this "new thing" apparently slows down writing and photoshop work aswell? Kinda weird, no? Especially since this update will most likely consist of way less renders than previous ones, and even those barely took him a month to finish the writing/photoshopping. Slowing down progress on literally every front possible.

I don't get why he's hyping this release up as such a super awesome special one, when this new feature will make an even larger impact in future updates. As he said himself in previous statements, we'll only get a first look at this new thing in the upcoming release, implying that it'll likely have an even larger impact in future releases. (And even slower updates aswell?)

Then again, honestly, reading this mess is just as confusing as always. Is he even talking about this "new thing" regarding the teaser, or is it only about the bonus event?

"All I can promise that it will be a pretty special update! When I give you an approximate release time span, you will see at the latest what I was talking about all the time! But for some of my more loayal patrons who just can't wait anymore, I could show at least a little teaser. Only if you won't share it anywhere else, of course!"

Since he was talking about this "new thing" all the time like it's the holy grale of VN's, I'd assume that's what he wants to showcase in the bonus teaser? So what now? Is the bonus event the "new thing", or is there actually a new feature? This entire post is so poorly written, it could've been posted by a 12 year old for all I know. Guess we'll know more once he gives us the approximate release date. Or maybe not...

I still stand by my previous statement that he's likely not even have any helpers and just started working with Blender himself and that's it. Easy (and weak) way to come up with excuses for more delays without taking the blame himself.

Anyway, end of February release means roughly 3 months and 10 days for 1/10th of a PD, and almost 3 years to finsish this playable day 13 if this is the new norm per update. Just wow. Amazing.

In his defense, not only is communication a weakness for him, but he's also trying to do it in a foreign language. I agree with your point, but when we say that he communicated like a 12 year old I think that's a bit harsh considering the language barrier.

That said, his communication does suck. I'm not sure if he's always intentionally vague or confusing, but I often struggle to understand his meaning. In hindsight, he should have considered bringing in a communications person to do the postings on Patreon and other public places. His English is only good enough to get him in trouble. He can communicate simple thoughts well enough, but when he attempts detailed answers he falls apart.

I get the impression that what he thinks is a fun, titillating, statement is, to native English speakers, confusing and unclear. This gets the cycle rolling as L&P becomes more frustrated and communication breaks down more. He sincerely may not understand some of the mistakes he makes and that he's confusing people more than informing them.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Too much complaining around here. No one forces you to stay here or to keep following this game. If you don't like it, there are other alternatives (or not?). So much for getting a game for free.

Stop complaining.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

In his defense, not only is communication a weakness for him, but he's also trying to do it in a foreign language. I agree with your point, but when we say that he communicated like a 12 year old I think that's a bit harsh considering the language barrier.

That said, his communication does suck. I'm not sure if he's always intentionally vague or confusing, but I often struggle to understand his meaning. In hindsight, he should have considered bringing in a communications person to do the postings on Patreon and other public places. His English is only good enough to get him in trouble. He can communicate simple thoughts well enough, but when he attempts detailed answers he falls apart.

I get the impression that what he thinks is a fun, titillating, statement is, to native English speakers, confusing and unclear. This gets the cycle rolling as L&P becomes more frustrated and communication breaks down more. He sincerely may not understand some of the mistakes he makes and that he's confusing people more than informing them.

Its been 4 years and he said himself he's good with english. He conveys exactly what he wants to convey: vague statements.

 

[Kakato]

I'm seriously thinking about opening my Seer Shop. I will call it " A Slap to open your eyes ". Sounds great ^ ^

 

[ChidoriKamuiKeng]

can anyone please Sneak peek

 

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The update should actually already be out but "the new thing" just drags along, and it's not just because of me! All I can promise that it will be a pretty special update! When I give you an approximate release time span, you will see at the latest what I was talking about all the time!
But for some of my more loayal patrons who just can't wait anymore, I could show at least a little teaser. Only if you won't share it anywhere else, of course!
Or you don't want the surprise to be spoiled and like to wait a bit longer. I'm practically done with the scene creation and heading to finish the update until the end of February.

I'm very impatient and agree to get the surprise spoiled, so just finally show me that damn teaser!
74%
I don't want to get the surprise spoiled and like to wait a little bit more
26%
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a new preview about the bonus event?yes please.

 

[Talcum Powder]

In his defense, not only is communication a weakness for him, but he's also trying to do it in a foreign language. I agree with your point, but when we say that he communicated like a 12 year old I think that's a bit harsh considering the language barrier.

That said, his communication does suck. I'm not sure if he's always intentionally vague or confusing, but I often struggle to understand his meaning. In hindsight, he should have considered bringing in a communications person to do the postings on Patreon and other public places. His English is only good enough to get him in trouble. He can communicate simple thoughts well enough, but when he attempts detailed answers he falls apart.

I get the impression that what he thinks is a fun, titillating, statement is, to native English speakers, confusing and unclear. This gets the cycle rolling as L&P becomes more frustrated and communication breaks down more. He sincerely may not understand some of the mistakes he makes and that he's confusing people more than informing them.

I'm not sure we could say that communication is his weakness. It's been fairly obvious for well over a year now that the problem is what he has to communicate - the substance of what he's saying is the problem. The language barrier may be making it sound worse to native English speakers, but no matter how fluent you are or how elegant your phrasing, bullshit will invariably emit a recognizable stench.

 

[Bunny-Hunter]

Release on Valentine's Day?

 

[XaGnard]

So the new/special/surprise/whatever thing can be seen in a teaser? That's kinda cancelling out the possibility of animations, no? Also, funny how he's calling high tier patrons "more loyal" just because they're throwing more money into this sinkhole.

Practically done with scene creation, but still requires an entire month to finish the update? So this "new thing" apparently slows down writing and photoshop work aswell? Kinda weird, no? Especially since this update will most likely consist of way less renders than previous ones, and even those barely took him a month to finish the writing/photoshopping. Slowing down progress on literally every front possible.

I don't get why he's hyping this release up as such a super awesome special one, when this new feature will make an even larger impact in future updates. As he said himself in previous statements, we'll only get a first look at this new thing in the upcoming release, implying that it'll likely have an even larger impact in future releases. (And even slower updates aswell?)

Then again, honestly, reading this mess is just as confusing as always. Is he even talking about this "new thing" regarding the teaser, or is it only about the bonus event?

"All I can promise that it will be a pretty special update! When I give you an approximate release time span, you will see at the latest what I was talking about all the time! But for some of my more loayal patrons who just can't wait anymore, I could show at least a little teaser. Only if you won't share it anywhere else, of course!"

Since he was talking about this "new thing" all the time like it's the holy grale of VN's, I'd assume that's what he wants to showcase in the bonus teaser? So what now? Is the bonus event the "new thing", or is there actually a new feature? This entire post is so poorly written, it could've been posted by a 12 year old for all I know. Guess we'll know more once he gives us the approximate release date. Or maybe not...

I still stand by my previous statement that he's likely not even have any helpers and just started working with Blender himself and that's it. Easy (and weak) way to come up with excuses for more delays without taking the blame himself.

Anyway, end of February release means roughly 3 months and 10 days for 1/10th of a PD, and almost 3 years to finsish this playable day 13 if this is the new norm per update. Just wow. Amazing.

As I predicted, any further subdivision of a game day will be used by L&P to become even slower. The idea with Blender would have been useful at the beginning. Now in the middle of the game development, it just doesn't make sense and only leads to everything being delayed even more.

It seems to me that L&P is not so much interested in the game itself, but really just wants to learn another render application. Considering how unrealistic his previous schedule already was, this is just extremely nonsensical. I really hope more of his supporters realize this and look for more useful projects to support.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

I'm in that 18%, I don't want to see the spoiler.

The sad truth is that I'm not a patron and I can't get it. XD

NO Spoilers! Totally agree. Did Tolstoy do Spoilers? What About Melville? We know the Bard did not. Hell even Clancy never did spoilers!

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I really hope more of his supporters realize this and look for more useful projects to support.

unfortunately it will not happen, some time ago, I signed up to his patreon specifically to read the comments and express my disappointment.
I had everyone against

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Release date aside, the thing I am concerned about is how the new artist (I don't like the term "helper") is being projected here and in the previous communications. It seems to me the that the entire blame of late delivery is being put on the new teammate. It is not motivating for a person to get pinned even during closed discussions, let alone being implicated in the public.

Is it really a new artist? We only have his word for it. I am in the "Don't believe a damn word he says camp!" Just in case you wondered.

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

whatmade sabertooth put me down as a troll because i said update the third week of februar now the developer will put it out at the end of february so probably not before mid- march

Oooooh you have the sabertooth badge of honor. I am so jealous!

 

[Rodrigo Tannuri]

The creators of AWAM and JOHN played with gamers and fans of the games.
They promised to deliver the projects in January and they think that February is an extension of January...
Unfair

 

[Alley_Cat]

Is it really a new artist? We only have his word for it. I am in the "Don't believe a damn word he says camp!" Just in case you wondered.

It is curious that we don't know who the "helper" is. When the dev for Free Pass got someone to help with editing and translation, they were a fellow patron, who made themselves known.