VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Lolumad1337]

I think you can guess just by looking at the “spanking” tag.

This developer is lazy and irresponsible.

Before playing a game, people look at the game's introduction and tags.
And by looking at the introduction and tags, one guesses the content of the game and gets excited or disappointed.

The only "spanking" in this game is when Sophia and Patricia are jogging and Patricia touches Sophia's butt.
It's different from what ordinary people expect.

exhibitionism: Were there any scenes that could be described as exhibitionism?
groping: I know there was a lot of touching, but it wasn't like in regular porn.
incest : I know some people say that kissing is also incest.
I do not recognize that anything other than penetrative sex is incest.
(This may be a cultural difference, but to me, it's like when someone threatens another person with a gun, I can say "there was a threat or intent to kill," but I can't say "he committed murder.")
voyeurism: Was there a case of voyeurism?
If a child spies on his mother or his mother's friend in a flashback scene, can it be called voyeurism?

Someone might want to argue that.

But whether it meets the standards of regular porn or people who expect something from porn is another matter.

I think this developer is using this for business reasons.

The other tags you mentioned, yeah I can completely see how it is misleading or just a lie. But the incest tag…what’s happening and has happened between Sophia and Dylan is 100% incest no matter what cultural background or differences you are from LOL. In no culture is it okay for a son to be groping their mom’s tits, making out or getting a handy and it is not considered incest. If only penetrative sex is considered incest in your culture then LOL

 

[Alley_Cat]

The other tags you mentioned, yeah I can completely see how it is misleading or just a lie. But the incest tag…what’s happening and has happened between Sophia and Dylan is 100% incest no matter what cultural background or differences you are from LOL. In no culture is it okay for a son to be groping their mom’s tits, making out or getting a handy and it is not considered incest. If only penetrative sex is considered incest in your culture then LOL

One of my cunning linguist friends once told me that from a linguistics perspective, synonyms don't actually exist. That every word has a unique meaning for a reason.

In the past I've used the word consanguinity for this very reason - since there's a completely different context between the incest between Sophia and Dylan, which if resulting in pregnancy will likely result in genetic defects and mental retardation, and the incest between Sophia and Ellie or Sophia and Patricia, which wont even result in pregnancy.

All three are incest, but only one is consanguination.

 

[hzjujk]

One of my cunning linguist friends once told me that from a linguistics perspective, synonyms don't actually exist. That every word has a unique meaning for a reason.

In the past I've used the word consanguinity for this very reason - since there's a completely different context between the incest between Sophia and Dylan, which if resulting in pregnancy will likely result in genetic defects and mental retardation, and the incest between Sophia and Ellie or Sophia and Patricia, which wont even result in pregnancy.

All three are incest, but only one is consanguination.

For me, it's not even necessarily the biological component of sexual relationships among family members that is the main problem.
Do you know the saying, "You can't escape your family!
The probability that an amorous relationship between family members will fail is great.
When a normal love relationship ends, after some time you start all over again. You reorient yourself and leave the past behind. With family members it does not work so! There the distortions are larger and one cannot simply begin again.
That's why it doesn't matter to me whether it's a Sophia/Dylan connection or a Sophia/Elli connection. Both are incest and both is an equally big breach of taboo.

 

[Claugod]

Why so much love for Dylan? I don't get it honestly.

 

[Deleted member 5148089]

Why so much love for Dylan? I don't get it honestly.

Because it's an incest game ...duh.

 

[Illumi123]

Is there a gameplay somewhere?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Why so much love for Dylan? I don't get it honestly.

I don't get it either. Fortunately the question is irrelevant and none of my business, so I don't let it bother me, I just play the game the way I enjoy.

Because it's an incest game ...duh.

I can explain why I like Ellie and Patricia without talking about incest. Even if they were friend and best friend like in DoL. I do occasionally wonder if Dylan would be anywhere near as popular if he wasn't the MC's son.

Is there a gameplay somewhere?

Do you mean a walkthrough? There are a few, depending on what route you're playing. Mine for the lesbian route, and Mamonetti's for the maximum filthy route haven't been updated for Part 2 though.

 

[Ranxerox]

Is there a gameplay somewhere?

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-190-lust-passion.5944/post-11686503

 

[0197m]

Good stuff will keep an eye on this one .

 

[tofhdns]

The other tags you mentioned, yeah I can completely see how it is misleading or just a lie. But the incest tag…what’s happening and has happened between Sophia and Dylan is 100% incest no matter what cultural background or differences you are from LOL. In no culture is it okay for a son to be groping their mom’s tits, making out or getting a handy and it is not considered incest. If only penetrative sex is considered incest in your culture then LOL

I am weak in English.
So I wish someone could interpret this.

Many incest laws do not expressly proscribe sexual conduct other than vaginal intercourse—such as oral sex—or any sexual activity among relatives of the same sex (though if either party is a minor, it may be punishable otherwise).

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me : Why does incest law distinguish between vaginal intercourse and other things?

If they tried to engage in sexual relations, but no intercourse actually happened, a prosecutor might bring an attempted incest charge.

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me : What is the scope of “attempted incest”?

The court acquitted R of attempted incest and held that sexual interference and sexual assault are not included offenses of incest.

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me : Why aren't "sexual interference" and "sexual assault" included in incest?

Note that only sexual intercourse is criminalized by California’s law on incest. Other forms of sexual activity are not.

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[Blepleb]

Found this game recently and at first I thought like "WOW! This is possibly a diamond. Strange that it's not so famous" and then I saw 6.5k posts here
Well this one is definately promising Arts. Models. Characters. Sophia and her relations development. Pretty slow corruption. Maybe lack of animation but there is not that much stuff to be animated yet. Dialogues. Well fetishes and how they are given

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Found this game recently and at first I thought like "WOW! This is possibly a diamond. Strange that it's not so famous" and then I saw 6.5k posts here
Well this one is definately promising Arts. Models. Characters. Sophia and her relations development. Pretty slow corruption. Maybe lack of animation but there is not that much stuff to be animated yet. Dialogues. Well fetishes and how they are given

It definitely WAS promising like 7 years ago. Now all promises turned into a vague hope it won't perish too soon...

 

[lockerxx]

Found this game recently and at first I thought like "WOW! This is possibly a diamond. Strange that it's not so famous" and then I saw 6.5k posts here
Well this one is definately promising Arts. Models. Characters. Sophia and her relations development. Pretty slow corruption. Maybe lack of animation but there is not that much stuff to be animated yet. Dialogues. Well fetishes and how they are given

welcome to the club!!!

 

[Alley_Cat]

Found this game recently and at first I thought like "WOW! This is possibly a diamond. Strange that it's not so famous" and then I saw 6.5k posts here
Well this one is definately promising Arts. Models. Characters. Sophia and her relations development. Pretty slow corruption. Maybe lack of animation but there is not that much stuff to be animated yet. Dialogues. Well fetishes and how they are given

I think a lot of the posts in this thread (I know I've certainly contributed a fair amount) is just a lament on how promising this game is that just doesn't deliver.

That, and pointless rambling on stuff like pigeons and the altitude of airports in between the long waits between updates.

But I think the nail in the coffin as to the lost potential is the amount of fan art games that are popular. Possibly even more popular than the main game. A fan art game has even popped up with Ellie as the MC, since we haven't seen her in any decent way for about 3 years.

 

[rAmSiMaL]

Do you mean a walkthrough? There are a few, depending on what route you're playing. Mine for the lesbian route, and Mamonetti's for the maximum filthy route haven't been updated for Part 2 though.

where can I find Mamonetti’s for part 1? Just curious to compare it with the one I’m following.

 

[Alley_Cat]

where can I find Mamonetti’s for part 1? Just curious to compare it with the one I’m following.

https://f95zone.to/posts/6985052/

Not playing either Dylan or Sam routes, I haven't checked it, but that's the latest link I have on record. Mamonetti will probably be able to say more.

I'd probably recommend choosing the Alyssa event over the Ellie/Julia in his walkthrough, since if you're not following mine, you're probably not concerned if you miss a lesbian event or two

 

[XaGnard]

https://f95zone.to/posts/6985052/

Not playing either Dylan or Sam routes, I haven't checked it, but that's the latest link I have on record. Mamonetti will probably be able to say more.

I'd probably recommend choosing the Alyssa event over the Ellie/Julia in his walkthrough, since if you're not following mine, you're probably not concerned if you miss a lesbian event or two

What, you don't play the Dylan and Sam part of the game. Really? That's completely new to me, and something I haven't read here about 100 times before.

 

[abram1]

What, you don't play the Dylan and Sam part of the game. Really? That's completely new to me, and something I haven't read here about 100 times before.

I simply took Ellie_Cat's 5 latest posts just for laughs, that naughty lesbian Ellie admirer.

It's been around 3 years since the last event on the Ellie route, and even longer for Patricia. That will all change after the upcoming update. Some of the most vocal Ellie fans are only just recently returning to the thread.

the incest between Sophia and Ellie or Sophia and Patricia, which wont even result in pregnancy.

I can explain why I like Ellie and Patricia without talking about incest. Even if they were friend and best friend like in DoL. I do occasionally wonder if Dylan would be anywhere near as popular if he wasn't the MC's son.

But I think the nail in the coffin as to the lost potential is the amount of fan art games that are popular. Possibly even more popular than the main game. A fan art game has even popped up with Ellie as the MC, since we haven't seen her in any decent way for about 3 years.

I'd probably recommend choosing the Alyssa event over the Ellie/Julia in his walkthrough, since if you're not following mine, you're probably not concerned if you miss a lesbian event or two

Swear god, I wasn't expecting the word "Ellie" to pop up in every single post, no matter what the context is. Dunno if that's an obsession, mad love of the virtual character or some kind of a fixed idea. Although that character is a part of a current PD, the sheer thought of Ellie being part of different paths almost thwarts the appeal of this VN for our furry friend. Thankfully, the utmost desire to finally play that specific route outweighs all the negatives.

Alley_Cat, you can't take a look at the scene below or you might get a stroke. You've been warned!

Spoiler: A heartbreaking moment

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[Radoslaw Wolf]

That, and pointless rambling on stuff like pigeons and the altitude of airports in between the long waits between updates.

You forgot about the memes

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I simply took Ellie_Cat's 5 latest posts just for laughs, that naughty lesbian Ellie admirer.

That's the cutest name calling I've ever seen...