Mod Ren'Py Adam and Gaia : THXE [R4 C] [Doomed City]

[Epadder]

So a couple of questions for those of you out there watching.

• Is there anything in the current UI you feel is unclear/too clunky (that the stuff I showed in the preview a couple posts ago doesn't address)?
• Are there things that you wished had been explained more clearly when you started playing/mechanics that are still too unclear?

And as part of question two, would it be more helpful to have an initial tutorial, an in-game wiki, or a more general quest log with an overview of your progress through the game. I mean I might do all of these at some point, but it's about which to prioritize and it probably wouldn't be included in the initial release of the next update. (I'll still at least put answers to questions in an FAQ section on the main post)

 

[Craz]

Is there anything in the current UI you feel is unclear/too clunky (that the stuff I showed in the preview a couple posts ago doesn't address)?

The only "issue" I had with the UI was the delayed effect of clicking on an option due to the image change. If that's been considered for a tweak, that's good news to me.

Are there things that you wished had been explained more clearly when you started playing/mechanics that are still too unclear?

Not sure how to answer this one. Since I had actually played the source material, I was already familiar with the system. A couple of things are a little different, but nothing too difficult, in my opinion, to grasp.

And as part of question two, would it be more helpful to have an initial tutorial, an in-game wiki, or a more general quest log with an overview of your progress through the game. I mean I might do all of these at some point, but it's about which to prioritize and it probably wouldn't be included in the initial release of the next update. (I'll still at least put answers to questions in an FAQ section on the main post)

I would put my vote to a general quest log, but I can see the importance of a tutorial first to explain some of the differences between this version and Beorn's in the sense of the little system changes.

 

[Epadder]

Well thanks for your response to my questions @Craz.
As for the UI "issue":
I didn't realize why the buttons were less responsive and it just kept getting pushed back to take a look at, this is the only working (mostly) project I've ever coded at all and my first time using Ren'py. The only coding things I did in the past were a few vbscripts, C# XNA Framework and created a SRPG style map with height and basic pathfinding, C# Monogame tried to port a puzzle game from iphone to pc, and screwed around in Unity trying to learn it.

 

[Craz]

Still, thanks for looking into it. I was mostly curious why it was responding in that way. I've gotten used to it by now, but it's still nice to hear that you are thinking about it.

 

[Epadder]

Ah, having the background image change with a dissolve transition makes everything else stop responding to input. Now why that happens exactly I'm not 100% sure, I assume its so a player doesn't click through transitions in the more visual novel side of things.
For reference the default 'dissolve' is 0.5 seconds, currently I have a custom dissolve down to 0.15 seconds.

 

[Craz]

Hmm, that's what causes the little delayed effect then. Well, if that's how it is...

 

[Abyssdrake13]

Is there anyway to increase the maximum actions you have either through console commands or in-game?

 

[Epadder]

If you change the difficulty in the options. You will have to get to a new day before you'll get your new maximum and some sequences do automatically just consume every remaining action point.

 

[Abyssdrake13]

thanks!

 

[Epadder]

Just a small status update on how things are going, currently working on finishing implementation of all the randomly generated twin sisters (not identical twins) for Venus. Has taken a bit longer than I thought to standardize the girls for a generation system, and also had to expand the code to account for characters that were associated to each other.

Also took a small detour to help crunch the original game down from its monstrous size due to using animated gifs.

 

[Craz]

Thanks for the status update.

 

[Epadder]

Alright, just a small update again, still working been a bit slow this week diverted a couple of times and been a little under the weather. Also had a conundrum with how to fix a problem with some non-widescreen images having a composition that didn't let me expand and crop them into widescreen without issues.



Looking at a recent release of an old visual novel inspired a solution to the issue.



To give an idea of the scope of the generation system:

• Every Human Mother (12) has 16 generated daughters (Venus has 8 pairs of twins)
• Every Generated Daughter has a pool of scenes that they can generate with (with 3-5 scenes in the pool[Venus Twins have 5-9 because they generate 2 at a time])
• Every Generated Daughter has 1 foreplay scene (5 images per foreplay scene)
• Every Generated Daughter has 2 sex scenes (7 images per sex scene)
• Venus' Daughters all have a threesome scene (12 images per threesome scene)
• Some Daughters have specific imagery that shows when they are pregnant. (7 images also)

The best comparison between this system is Haramase Sim's Random Girls which there are 16 in total compared to the 192 in this coming update

As much as a more manual solution might be theoretically better the amount of editing and fiddling is already high enough for me

 

[Craz]

Hope you are feeling better now, and thanks again for the update.

 

[Epadder]

Just a quick update again, I am almost finished with standardizing all daughters in the Generation System.

There is something I would like to ask of you guys who have played through the current version, if you wouldn't mind posting a zip with your save files so I can make sure to nip potential problems in the bud before release.

Unfortunately because I spend most of my time in the current development build, my saves aren't necessarily a good reflection of what an average save file is like.

 

[Deleted member 207364]

I use autoclicker in pretty much every renpy game, my save is probably an outlier

 

[Epadder]

Hello everyone,

Thanks for playing this version of Adam and Gaia this year .

Sorry I couldn't manage to get the next update done before christmas, but have some backgrounds if you want them.
You can get a uncompressed png version of the backgrounds

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I'll be around now and again, but I expect work on the mod to be pretty sporadic till the start of next year.

To everyone watching the thread or who wanders in,
Have a Happy and Safe Holiday Season.

 

[Fox.Mulder]

Played the original through, and did this one as much as I could find was possible in the game and really like both versions.

I would say that the responsiveness of clicking to new areas as mentioned is a real bother when trying to move to new areas having to wait for a preview image to appear on screen before clicking etc; seems unnecessary and I'd probably just remove the preview if possible but that's just me. My temp fix was to just hold CTRL when clicking anything but it does skip into following text and sometimes I missed things hehe.

Also, all the main matrons are CGs from existing games or something? I wonder 'cause, for science or something, I wanna know what games they're all originally from... xD

 

[Epadder]

Whoops sorry about the late reply here... missed this in all the other alerts this morning .

Yeah the background change should be more responsive in the next update... I'll try and add an option to just disable it specifically for those who don't care about it at all / the improvement isn't enough.

For the final question: Yes all CG/Vocal lines are from other games, Music is from various artists that have a CC NC-BY (Creative Commons: Non-commercial with Attribution) license or just CC BY license, and the UI graphics are my fault .

There will be an actual in-game credits section that you can access from the Title Screen in the next update, I'm pretty sure most of the games are still in Japanese but here is the list.

Spoiler: Human Matrons - Look at your own risk

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Spoiler: Monster Matrons - enter at your own risk

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Holy hell that took forever to list and format .

 

[Fox.Mulder]

Goodness, you're a hero. Gonna be a while looking through some of those. For... for science.

 

[Deathknight134]

I don't get the installation guide. Is this its own game? Or do I need to copy paste all of these files into the main download in the original game creator's thread? I'm confused. Somebody please guide me through these dark times... *prays*