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Too bad the game have good graphics and animations, the story was good so far, but the paywalls have just ruined the game for me
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I had high hopes for this one, but hiding a decent portion of the updates behind a paywall that makes the user jump through hoops to achieve is a waste of time and energy. So sad, but this just creates more space on my disk since as much as I like the game I have no desire to support a dev who locks game stuff behind a paywall, even more so when they deem it necessary to thrust those locked choices in players faces.
I hope they're choice of leaving Patreon for steam nets them the big sales they're dreaming of, but I've learnt in life to never put all the eggs in one basket.
I hope they're choice of leaving Patreon for steam nets them the big sales they're dreaming of, but I've learnt in life to never put all the eggs in one basket.
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i think his paywall shit wont work on steam so probably the prizes are going to be higher
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I stopped supporting some developers on Patreon and began buying their games; it's much more worthwhile for me. But while it's worthwhile for me, I don't know if it's worthwhile for the developers, especially for those who take a long time to deliver a game. The developer in this discussion mentioned that he's been working on this game on Patreon for over three years. Would he be able to maintain the revenue flow on Steam as he does on Patreon? I don't think so.
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Follow my official Steam Developer page if you still haven't:
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Even the biggest adult game devs on Patreon have 10-30k patrons, while on Steam there are 3-5 million users who purchase adult games. Those big devs make millions per year on Steam, while smaller devs like me, with a successful launch, can still make enough to live a normal life while developing the next season/piece of content.
That’s why I said that the sales and reviews in the first couple of weeks are going to be crucial. The more sales and positive reviews a game receives in that period, the more free traffic it will get from the Steam algorithm, which will start to recommend it to % of those players who have purchased adult games before.
Pricing for Steam:
Short games I will price between $3 and $10, depending on the length. Shorter games like The Naughty Red Hood will be around $3. Those with more content, like The Lewd Deal, will be around $6. If, at some point, I make a longer short game, it can go up to $10.
The first season of Agent Horny will cost around $15 since it has only 7 updates, and the first 4 of them were on the shorter end. Season one has 4623 renders, 62 animations, and 28600 words. Seasons 2 and 3 will range between $25 and $30 and contain 10 updates each.
The whole point of going to Steam is to make enough money to do this full-time, and if that happens, I should be able to keep up the same content output as the last 3 updates (900–1000 renders per update), which means the next two seasons will have 9–10K renders and 100–300 animations each.
If I were doing a simpler game with <10 characters and environments and no action scenes, I would have gone for 13–15 dollars per season since those games are a lot easier to make, but with Agent Horny, this is the lowest price that makes sense.
Discord/Patrons Benefits
I won’t be opening Discord for Steam users since there is already a Steam community forum for questions, feedback, and support. But I will maintain my current Discord server, which is open to any current and ex-patrons, all you need to do to get in is to send me a message on Patreon.
With Discord, you will have access to:
- From time to time, I will drop some exclusive renders that won’t be in the games. This is my little way of saying thank you for supporting me.
- When planning future content, I will be checking both the Steam community forum (people who have purchased the game on Steam) and the Discord server for suggestions. Feedback/suggestions from the server will have higher priority than those from the Steam forums.
- Latest news (everything will be first announced in the server)
- WIP (Work In Progress Renders)
- You can ask questions and be part of discussions about my games
what is he stupid or what??
thinking the devs there make millions.
there may be 3-5 million users on steam,but that does not mean every one of them will buy every game there...
that shows again that his way of thinking how that will go can not be wronger.....
thinking the devs there make millions.
there may be 3-5 million users on steam,but that does not mean every one of them will buy every game there...
that shows again that his way of thinking how that will go can not be wronger.....
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Pretty sure none of those devs who make a million plus a year lock content behind a paywall he failed to mention that
He's just another F tier dev looking to make a quick buck on Steam sales. He honestly deserves failure after intentionally bloating render counts with useless angles of a hug/kiss/whatever and putting paywalls in sex scenes.what is he stupid or what??
thinking the devs there make millions.
there may be 3-5 million users on steam,but that does not mean every one of them will buy every game there...
that shows again that his way of thinking how that will go can not be wronger.....
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Agent Horny - 10 Updates - $30
Being A Dik - Season 1 - $20
Chasing Sunsets - $14
Fetish Locator - Week 1 - $14
Ok then.
Being A Dik - Season 1 - $20
Chasing Sunsets - $14
Fetish Locator - Week 1 - $14
Ok then.
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This developer, depending on the reviews received, might not even be able to sell his game for $10.
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He's being a bit ambitious. Explaining to his Patreons why it's worth that much. But that won't mean anything on Steam. Considering there is no choices apart from clothing and sex positions, I don't like his chances. But hey, if it gets popular, we might get a free version here.
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In steam he can't pull the same stunt he pulled in patreon. He can't make people subscribe and wait for 6 months to play the full game.
In patreon his way of doing things atleast stopped his game from getting leaked. If it's in steam it can be leaked easily.
In patreon his way of doing things atleast stopped his game from getting leaked. If it's in steam it can be leaked easily.
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I’m halfway through the Steam documentation, and now I have a more clear idea of how to approach future content, especially in regards to early access releases on Steam. I'm split between two different ways I can release the next seasons. I lean more towards option one, but I will decide once the games are released and I can take a look into the sales numbers.
1. If the sales of my two short games and the first season of AH are good enough so I can develop the next content while living off those sales, then I will do this:
Once a couple of updates for season 2 are ready, I can release them in early access on Steam. In that scenario, my SubscribeStar account will act as a tip jar, where people who love the game and can afford to support extra can pledge. This will also act as an alternative for users from Germany who can’t buy adult games on Steam. When new updates for the season are ready, they will be available at the same time for both Steam and SubscribeStar users, same will apply to any short games I do in the future.
2. If the sales of my two short games and the first season of AH are not so bad that I decide to quit, but are not enough to sustain myself while developing the next content, then I will do this.
Only full seasons will be released on Steam. In other words, those who want to access the game will have to either wait 3 years while the next season is being developed or join SubscribeStar. With option 2 Substar will work the same way as Patreon, with a 6-month support requirement, so I can avoid leaks before the release of the season on Steam.
Patreon gives an option to download a list containing the usernames and emails of all of my current and past patrons, so if I go with option two, you can join SubscribeStar and send me a message with your patreon nick and email. That way, if you have, say, 4 months on Patreon, you will have to wait only another two, and if you have 6 or more, you won't have to wait at all.
Obviously, there is also option 3… If sales are shit I will have to give up, but after the sales numbers I have seen from developers who had similar support on Patreon as me… Let's just say that I’m optimistic about this.
I prefer option 1 since sending individual links on substar is an extra time resource I can put into the games instead. But I’m willing to go with either of the options, depending on the numbers.
So you know the drill, whether you are patron, ex-patron, itch user, or you never supported my work so far but you enjoy the games:
Wishlist the games → Buy them on day one → play them until the end → leave a positive review.
I will do a strong marketing campaign as usual, you give a push in the first week with the sales and reviews, and then the steam algorithm deals with the rest. Everything goes according to plan, and I can finally give my full attention to pumping out content
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The Lewd Deal is now approved by Steam, so head on and wishlist it.
You can do that using this link:
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Or search for the game on Steam:
Wishlists are important for a successful release. The more of them there are, the bigger the chance is that the game will show up in “popular upcoming games” on Steam.
Generally, it’s advised to have steam games in “coming soon” mode for 3-4 months to have a successful marketing campaign and gain enough wishlists, but I won’t be waiting for that long. The release date for The Lewd Deal (Full Version) is set for October 1st.
A few things may or may not be added to the steam release, depending on what I’m able to finish on time. Check the Steam page before release for the final description/numbers
- More sex positions can be added to the game. (likely to happen)
- Choices will be added in the sex scenes for more interactivity. In other words, you will be able to pick which parts of the scenes to watch and have an easy way to replay them. (likely to happen)
- Music can be added to the game. (complicated topic, so no promises)
- Achievements can be added to the game. (probably, but not 100%)
Before shutting down my Patreon page at the end of the month, I will make a few more posts.
TF? 3-4 months? Won't be waiting that long? I think this dev is stupid, that is three months basically. Realistically it's 2 and a half but if you have a finished game(Which a Lewd Deal is, I played the completed version 6 months ago). I can't wait for there to be no new content.View attachment 3834051
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The Lewd Deal is now approved by Steam, so head on and wishlist it.
You can do that using this link:
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Or search for the game on Steam:
Wishlists are important for a successful release. The more of them there are, the bigger the chance is that the game will show up in “popular upcoming games” on Steam.
Generally, it’s advised to have steam games in “coming soon” mode for 3-4 months to have a successful marketing campaign and gain enough wishlists, but I won’t be waiting for that long. The release date for The Lewd Deal (Full Version) is set for October 1st.
A few things may or may not be added to the steam release, depending on what I’m able to finish on time. Check the Steam page before release for the final description/numbers
- More sex positions can be added to the game. (likely to happen)
- Choices will be added in the sex scenes for more interactivity. In other words, you will be able to pick which parts of the scenes to watch and have an easy way to replay them. (likely to happen)
- Music can be added to the game. (complicated topic, so no promises)
- Achievements can be added to the game. (probably, but not 100%)
Before shutting down my Patreon page at the end of the month, I will make a few more posts.
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From what I saw, this game of his is a short one with only 500 renders, and these 500 were exclusively for VIP patrons, while those with a lower contribution had access to a 300 render version. The version available here on F95 is the 300 render one. Nowadays, if a game has only 300 renders in the first chapter, it's already considered small. I checked out the thread for this game and saw that the developer was active and seemed arrogant, but their account got deleted.
- Jul 26, 2023
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If you haven't played this one, I wouldn't bother until the steam release and either buy it, or see if the full version gets posted here.haha forgot all about this game I wanted to try it out but with his scummy paywall practices I didn't even give any a download. Now seeing this going to steam can we expect AAA prices if everything gets completed I wonder
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honestly thinking playing his other game instead the lewd deal since it actually has the completed tag haha. I might get to this one one day but it's very very low on my backlog but yeah waiting till steam release for sure