Ayame#1Fan

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The delay was just 24 hours but a lot of people suggested that they skipped 0.99 and just deliver the final version August 30 which is what the plan was for a while.
 

Ayame#1Fan

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I don't really mind, but they really shouldn't have announced it as such a big deal with a countdown timer just to suddenly shift to skipping this version anyway.
Again, they didn't mate. The game was going to come out tomorrow but people voted to merge the patches and HS are known for following what the people decide. We're even getting an extension of the Clarke route because people voted for it and Melvin's harem sub-route is only a thing because people requested it and like TotalDegenerate said and so well, the paying people.
 

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Again, they didn't mate. The game was going to come out tomorrow but people voted to merge the patches and HS are known for following what the people decide. We're even getting an extension of the Clarke route because people voted for it and Melvin's harem sub-route is only a thing because people requested it and like TotalDegenerate said and so well, the paying people.
That's fine, I'm just saying putting up a countdown like it's a sure date, even for patrons, wasn't the best if pushing it back via a vote was in the cards. Again I'm not actually mad, just my opinion on how to hype a game/update. That sort of thing is better served for the full 1.0 release anyway.
 
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I mean we can’t complain because we aren’t paying, but still it’s a shame and at the same time if they said they’ll give the final version on the 30th the. That’s fine by me
 

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I understand the complains, but the majority of paying patreons voted to delay the release so that's that.

In other news the homepage is up and running for those interested ->
Just a slight correction, not the "majority" voted, but the "plurality" of patreons. The poll was quite short notice, tbh.
 

Henry-Ever

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Just a slight correction, not the "majority" voted, but the "plurality" of patreons. The poll was quite short notice, tbh.
yeah i mean ....how many voted for the merge? 20? on how many supporters? 530? i mean ..for a big decision like this you neeed to do a poll with at least one day or two day to vote....we arent always online to check the update and sometimes we miss important stuff like that...
very nice the site so far :)
 
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Just a slight correction, not the "majority" voted, but the "plurality" of patreons. The poll was quite short notice, tbh.
True the poll was with a very short notice but it's still active if you have not voted go ahead and do it on discord.

yeah i mean ....how many voted for the merge? 20? on how many supporters? 530? i mean ..for a big decision like this you neeed to do a poll with at least one day or two day to vote....we arent always online to check the update and sometimes we miss important stuff like that...
very nice the site so far :)
True again, not everybody have voted so far, go ahead on discord and cast your vote.
Atm. The results look like this, and I really doubt it's gonna switch around, but we will see:
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Also to mention Starke did make a notification, which he rarely does to make sure people see the info.
 
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What is this poll even ... the version is supposed to get released, they delay it by 24h ok. Then when we are in that extended time they are like "hey can we skip releasing this version?". Then 20m after it started say that "overwhelming" majority vote for skip where not even 10% of supporters voted. Vote should be on patron and shouldn't show the votes till it is done.

"People asked for it, people don't want to download game twice, want full version , yare yare " well they can just not download 0.99 and wait for 1.0 easy right? The 0.99 is supposed to be right about ready ...

Also correct if I'm wrong but wasn't 1.0 supposed to be bug fixed 0.99 + Clarke route extension. All the systems were supposed to be ready for 0.99 that is why it cannibalized on the normal 2 month period of development time allocated to 1.0


The vote will obviously be in favor of skipping because those are fans voting and when the studio sounds like they need more time fans will vote to support them in that. I don't mind waiting myself, had they announced they skip the 0.99 release rather then putting up a countdown I would be more then fine with it. In those 3 months of wait not a single time I was upset about the wait but today I'm. Having a date to wait for inevitably creates the expectation of the thing happening. There is no worse date to miss then the one you set yourself.


Their release delays are meme worthy at his point. They are not baking fresh buns that you want on shelves as soon as they are out of the oven. You can give yourself some days of grace period, it will be just fine to have version on hands waiting for the release date.


Anyone taking bets whatever they will meet the August 30 date? XD
 
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i think the same way ....to much hype in these weeks ..and they should put the link to the poll on the patreon page ..not all patreons use discord..and a poll of this importance need to be put on the patreon page like the others....
 

Ayame#1Fan

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What is this poll even ... the version is supposed to get released, they delay it by 24h ok. Then when we are in that extended time they are like "hey can we skip releasing this version?".
Not what happened. "Hey can we skip this version" and "Does the majority of you guys are also of the opinion we should skip this version" are two completely different questions, you just worded it in a tacky way to make it sound like it was a delay and releasing it today wasn't an option.

Then 20m after it started say that "overwhelming" majority vote for skip where not even 10% of supporters voted. Vote should be on patron and shouldn't show the votes till it is done.
They picked Discord because it gets an instant response which is what they needed with 24 hours to make a decision. You need a vast majority decision, not "all patreons to vote". Honestly, I don't think you know how voting works.

In the PM elections for England we had by region 43% to 47% non-voters, in all regions. Almost half of England doesn't vote for a PM but apparently 53% of the votes are enough to get a PM elected, 20% of the votes in a bit over 12 hours is not enough to make a porn decision by your standards.

"People asked for it, people don't want to download game twice, want full version , yare yare " well they can just not download 0.99 and wait for 1.0 easy right? The 0.99 is supposed to be right about ready ...
Just a personal opinion, I find it really hard to be in an argumentation and give a mature and logical reply to someone that says "yare yare" but I'm trying.

The problem is that 0.99 so close to 1.0 might hurt the game. I'm sure you know why, you're just making it seem petty so it looks unreasonable for whatever attention you're trying to grab.

Also correct if I'm wrong but wasn't 1.0 supposed to be bug fixed 0.99 + Clarke route extension. All the systems were supposed to be ready that is why the 0.99 cannibalized on the normal 2 month period of development time allocated to 1.0
Okay, you're wrong.

The vote will obviously be in favor of skipping because those are fans voting and when the studio sounds like they need more time fans will vote to support them in that.
Again, if you word it like you did in the very first sentence I replied to, probably. But that wasn't the question that was asked was it? And once again, if the "fans" support them, what's your problem?

I don't mind waiting myself, had they announced they skip the 0.99 release rather then putting up a countdown I would be more then fine with it. In those 3 months of wait not a single time I was upset about the wait but today I'm. Having a date to wait for inevitably creates the expectation of the thing happening. There is no worse date to miss then the one you set yourself.
Clearly, you do. Your reasoning for being mad is "you promised candy now there's no candy why did you say there would be candy?"

Their release delays are meme worthy at his point. They are not baking fresh buns that you want on shelves as soon as they are out of the oven. You can give yourself some days of grace period, it will be just fine to have version on hands waiting for the release date.
Meme worthy. In comparison to what? What's your standard? Certainly not most of the games I follow.

The highest grossing hentai game on Patreon releases a 15 minute patch once every 6 months. I'm following a game that is supposed to be the spiritual successor to Scale Gardens games and hasn't released a patch in a year. I was following YummyTiger, you know who that is? Do you want me to explain what is 5 years for 5 minutes of content? In fact, the only bloke who actually kind of sticks with the schedule he doesn't really make, is NLT media.

Anyone taking bets whatever they will meet the August 30 date? XD
I'll take that action.
 

Terix3

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They picked Discord because it gets an instant response which is what they needed with 24 hours to make a decision. You need a vast majority decision, not "all patreons to vote". Honestly, I don't think you know how voting works.

In the PM elections for England we had by region 43% to 47% non-voters, in all regions. Almost half of England doesn't vote for a PM but apparently 53% of the votes are enough to get a PM elected, 20% of the votes in a bit over 12 hours is not enough to make a porn decision by your standards.
It is nice that you elaborate how elections work. How about elaborating on the impact on voting when your name is visible ? Or what impact on voters has the knowledge of the opinion of "vast majority" , especially those that are in "minority".

Just a personal opinion, I find it really hard to be in an argumentation and give a mature and logical reply to someone that says "yare yare" but I'm trying.

The problem is that 0.99 so close to 1.0 might hurt the game. I'm sure you know why, you're just making it seem petty so it looks unreasonable for whatever attention you're trying to grab.
In what way it is supposed to hurt the game? What is the problem with releasing basically ready version 0.99 now for people that want it and those that don't want it can not download it and wait for 1.0 ?.
Also we didn't set the release date and surely there was better way of doing the change/delay then waiting for when it is due.

I wouldn't mind explanation what the problem with yare yare is.

Clearly, you do. Your reasoning for being mad is "you promised candy now there's no candy why did you say there would be candy?"
And you are blaming me for yare yare while using candy reference yourself?
Phrase is however you want, call it childish or whatnot but that is how we work. We get excited for things and the closer the thing is gets the more excited we are. Proportionally to our excitement is our disappointment when we learn the thing is not happening.

Meme worthy. In comparison to what? What's your standard? Certainly not most of the games I follow.

The highest grossing hentai game on Patreon releases a 15 minute patch once every 6 months. I'm following a game that is supposed to be the spiritual successor to Scale Gardens games and hasn't released a patch in a year. I was following YummyTiger, you know who that is? Do you want me to explain what is 5 years for 5 minutes of content? In fact, the only bloke who actually kind of sticks with the schedule he doesn't really make, is NLT media.
What is it with You that you always try to reroute problems with development to other devs doing worse?
I can guess what game you speak about, now you guess how much i care whatever it gets completed? There are like 5 games on patreon that i care about out of them only Iris got problems with funding.

Why is it meme worthy ? Because they did it so many times that we are expecting them to delay the release when the date is due.
 
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