Others Abandoned Alice Awakening [v0.4.2 Stable] [StickJump]

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So shortly before presumed release of RJ01139254 Hentaku commented on the game ci-en
"Before you post your game read your messages! Read your last message I sent you. I'll also message you on F59Zone. Trust me your gonna wanna hear me out."
Maybe i was reading too many conspiracy theories lately but what was that all about?
 

aakantor

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Shit I hope you don't summon them accidentally. I don't want to see another 5 paragraphs of them defending a project that "just needs a bit more funding" to get started. Honestly I have more hope that ecchisan will release the game they're making than whatever this other "dev" is promising. Honestly bro should become a politician than a game dev if they're making promises like that.
That reminds me of the person from the Imouto life Fantasy thread who didn't like Kagura's trailer and said he was going to create his own and send it to the creator, he made some giant texts saying that he had a lot of ideas and in the end Kagura ended up launching the game and he never released its improved trailer :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 

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I've been watching (here and elsewhere) for quite awhile, and only really chiming in every now and then, and frankly the amount of... hate/skepticism towards AA Reborn, is a tad concerning.
We know the following :
Stickjump has ditched the game.
Stickjump gave approval to Hentakugames to do as they wished in regard to AA Reborn.
Ecchisan (who may, or may not be Stickjump) is making a game, which as of now is "Pending"... for however long that will be.
Hentakugames have been overhauling the code and game from scratch, with a whole new story, which apparently lead to the manga so that the team could practice the art style and give everyone a bit of the story. (and If you want to know how long it takes to overhaul old code... dare I point towards Summertime Saga and other games as examples?)
at least Hentakugames has been good about communicating with the fans.

It should be mentioned that they have been showing progress of the game, just not here, but in the new thread :
https://f95zone.to/threads/alice-awakening-reborn-progress.194990/post-13613416

which frankly is more than what Stickjump/Ecchisan has done so far (I listed out what is known about the other game in a earlier post)

so for now, I personally will be hanging around the AA Reborn thread to get latest news on how things are going, I would suggest that people that are actually interested in seeing how things are going (and not bollocking the Reborn devs) unwatch this thread and watch the new thread :

https://f95zone.to/threads/alice-awakening-reborn-progress.194990/
 

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We at Hentaku Games are indeed Overhauling the game from Scratch Adding new characters. With a fresh new engine with more mini games, and a new management system. The artwork will continue to mature. As we get better LineArt we will refresh the old art. thank you for your time.
 

bengamen

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So the old dev is going under a new name to scam gamers again with another project that will never be finished?
Old dev still gets money monthly on old patreon, is seemingly masking as a new person and getting money from dlsite with a new name
Meanwhile someone has the assets from the old game and is using them to make a patreon and subscribestar to get money monthly from that
All having no updates or anything

It's somehow 3 people scamming money from the same artwork of a 2 year no updated game
 

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I can give you a quick rundown in a chronological order.

So there is a StickJump, an ukrainian dev and famous scammer, known for his love for money, underdelivering, abandoning every project he ever started and disappearing for years while collecting cash from patreon/others. But this time :)oops:) it's not all about him.

In his discord he created #aa-reborn for modding his game and shared Construct2 source files so modders can figure out what the hell is going on. Later on he disappeared (trademark) but, since nature hates void, a wild Hentaku appeared to fill it.

Naturally Hentaku wants to make easy money and the easiest way to make money is take over someone's already existing project and fill every gap with empty promises and visions of the best h-game of the universe. No coding required!
But first off he needs to actually take over. Apparently he couldn't hijack StickJump's patreon but in case of Subscribestar he could, using banditcam recording of him scrolling through DMs on Discord. If you ever used right mouse button and inspect mode you know how silly that sounds but wait, it gets even sillier.
Of course noone could ever verify that, Subscribestar included, but source files SJ shared for modders are now used as a proof of an ownership. So there is no original developer, no original artist, the whole team is just randoms that tried to mod this game... and failed.

So instead of modding... why not make completely new game, on new game engine, from scratch, using SJ's most recent flagship IP setting, characters, ideas, salvageable resources and subscribestar? Hell, most of SS layout is still made of old AA assets.

He tried very, very hard to hijack this thread (or at least use it for free promotion) but since it's 1) completely different game engine 2) completely different team 3) completely new game - he fucked off to his own thread (not completely, unfortunatelly) and since there is no game to play - not even a demo - this thread is in "developement" subforum instead of, you know, "games" - like this thread.

Since then he comes here and boast how perfect this "1 million $ ero game" will be, posting ugly sketches and regularly seething on how he only wants old AA audience and donations but without associating SJ games with scamming. All while casually running takeover donation scam.

Ok, maybe that wasn't as quick rundown as I thought it would be but here you are.
I mean it s kinda terrible
Every part of it
And I hope it s not so true in everything
Cause I reaaly like the art style of Alice Awakening also cant really think of other such project with such quality
Also you said the original author from Ukraine
You must know what happening there (
As for a guys who trying to leech from such projects
Welp, I wish they step on a LEGO brick with bare feet
 

kiava

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I can give you a quick rundown in a chronological order.

So there is a StickJump, an ukrainian dev and famous scammer, known for his love for money, underdelivering, abandoning every project he ever started and disappearing for years while collecting cash from patreon/others. But this time :)oops:) it's not all about him.

In his discord he created #aa-reborn for modding his game and shared Construct2 source files so modders can figure out what the hell is going on. Later on he disappeared (trademark) but, since nature hates void, a wild Hentaku appeared to fill it.

Naturally Hentaku wants to make easy money and the easiest way to make money is take over someone's already existing project and fill every gap with empty promises and visions of the best h-game of the universe. No coding required!
But first off he needs to actually take over. Apparently he couldn't hijack StickJump's patreon but in case of Subscribestar he could, using banditcam recording of him scrolling through DMs on Discord. If you ever used right mouse button and inspect mode you know how silly that sounds but wait, it gets even sillier.
Of course noone could ever verify that, Subscribestar included, but source files SJ shared for modders are now used as a proof of an ownership. So there is no original developer, no original artist, the whole team is just randoms that tried to mod this game... and failed.

So instead of modding... why not make completely new game, on new game engine, from scratch, using SJ's most recent flagship IP setting, characters, ideas, salvageable resources and subscribestar? Hell, most of SS layout is still made of old AA assets.

He tried very, very hard to hijack this thread (or at least use it for free promotion) but since it's 1) completely different game engine 2) completely different team 3) completely new game - he fucked off to his own thread (not completely, unfortunatelly) and since there is no game to play - not even a demo - this thread is in "developement" subforum instead of, you know, "games" - like this thread.

Since then he comes here and boast how perfect this "1 million $ ero game" will be, posting ugly sketches and regularly seething on how he only wants old AA audience and donations but without associating SJ games with scamming. All while casually running takeover donation scam.

Ok, maybe that wasn't as quick rundown as I thought it would be but here you are.
why you are hate hentaku likt this ? i'm in stick's discord and i was there when stickjump was one of the few times online and gave the permission to hentaku to continue the brand of AA by making a new game.
Idk why you guys are so hard with him, he's just a fan who is trying to create a game.
which is the problem, the money ? well to make a game you need money
You don't want to support a game for each motives ? i can understand your concerns about AA since the game has a troubled story but at least wait for the demo before giving a judjment.
And obviosly is using all possible ways to make people know about his project, and again he didn't and he's not stealing ANYTHING, i repeat, was Stick in person who gave him permission to do so.
Once demo will be out he'll start is own discord etc, i mean to me seems logical to use the existing fan base.
He's very active here on f95 and even on stick discord, he talks with people, listen to feedback and even more active on his Subscribestar page.
There is even the manga project that is a interesting addition to AA world let's say.
I really don't uderstand why you guys are so hard with him, because he's ""taking"" money ? he's already show things about what they are doing, remember that every member of the team has their life and for now since they are not making enough money to pay everyone has a full time job they are working on game has a secondary thing, as a hobby let's say, but this doesn't mean that they are not putting passion and will to make the good game they want to create.
I can uderstand all the doubts you can have after what happened with stick, even if there was the war, but at least give him the benefit of doubt until they release a demo and what is the problem to ask money to pople to sup the game even if we didn't see the game itself for now ? Demo in coming, we don't know when for the motives i said before.
Nobody is forced to give money to him before the release of the demo, but idk why you guys are so hard with him.
He's cleary showing things in WIP in his subscribestar page, things that even og AA didn't havem you have to think about this game as something bigger and new that take the base from AA but it will be a completely different game compared to AA so pls don't be so hard with him just give the team the time they need, you can criticize if done it right but don't be so hard just bc you think he's a scammer, just wait.
Last thing, i'm not angry or else i just want to make you understand guys that he really wants to create a good game with Stick that give him the permission to continue so he's not stealing anything, obviosly art style will be the same as possible to stick's one bc they want to make people feel that they are still playing AA even if is a different game.
So you don't want to give him money for now, it's ok nobody will tell you that you're assholes but at least be respectul and wait for a demo before saying all the bad things you're saying about him and project, remember that behind the nick there's a real person with his real life problems etc, who wants to uderstand what i'm trying to say will understand.
Be patient and civil pls
PS : i'm not supporter in terms of money for now, so i'm not saying all that i said bc i had to justyfy the money i spent, i just want to believe in him and his project.
 

bengamen

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So the welcome post of Hentaku's subscribestar is now just footage from the original Alice awakening lol. Just pretending to be Stick and showing off someone else's work to sucker people into subscribing, because there's no actual footage or images of a new product.
 
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hurrdurrderpderp

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So the welcome post of Hentaku's subscribestar is now just footage from the original Alice awakening lol. Just pretending to be Stick and showing off someone else's work to sucker people into subscribing, because there's no actual footage or images of a new product.
"I challenge you to find something on us lying or scamming" was it, huh.
And banner still consists of 7 original AA's images and... whooping one they've made recently.
 

bengamen

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"I challenge you to find something on us lying or scamming" was it, huh.
And banner still consists of 7 original AA's images and... whooping one they've made recently.
Where would I be scamming people
An opening video saying a sample of what we're doing
And then a whole seperate game
Genuinely feels like subscribestar should be taking action at that
 

DatWanGai

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Where would I be scamming people
An opening video saying a sample of what we're doing
And then a whole seperate game
Genuinely feels like subscribestar should be taking action at that
These places won't take action because they profit from it. if it becomes a legal issue, they can just delete the person's page and act as if nothing happens. if Subscribestar or any other platform like them pursued an honest business, you'll see around a 50% or more cut on the creators there. And a 90% cut of h game developers there.
 

anthony9915

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Its just hard to get followers when you don't have a demo game out yet with your work added. I am excited to see the game continued thats for sure! But just like every other creator, you won't get any real fan base until a demo game or something is out to show your work. It sucks but gotta invest in your project first before others do. Either way look forward to the first demo! Good luck!
 

aakantor

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I've been watching (here and elsewhere) for quite awhile, and only really chiming in every now and then, and frankly the amount of... hate/skepticism towards AA Reborn, is a tad concerning.
We know the following :
Stickjump has ditched the game.
Stickjump gave approval to Hentakugames to do as they wished in regard to AA Reborn.
Ecchisan (who may, or may not be Stickjump) is making a game, which as of now is "Pending"... for however long that will be.
Hentakugames have been overhauling the code and game from scratch, with a whole new story, which apparently lead to the manga so that the team could practice the art style and give everyone a bit of the story. (and If you want to know how long it takes to overhaul old code... dare I point towards Summertime Saga and other games as examples?)
at least Hentakugames has been good about communicating with the fans.

It should be mentioned that they have been showing progress of the game, just not here, but in the new thread :
https://f95zone.to/threads/alice-awakening-reborn-progress.194990/post-13613416

which frankly is more than what Stickjump/Ecchisan has done so far (I listed out what is known about the other game in a earlier post)

so for now, I personally will be hanging around the AA Reborn thread to get latest news on how things are going, I would suggest that people that are actually interested in seeing how things are going (and not bollocking the Reborn devs) unwatch this thread and watch the new thread :

https://f95zone.to/threads/alice-awakening-reborn-progress.194990/
It's not that we hate him or anything like that, it's just that the guy's attitude literally makes him smell like a scam.

The normal thing is that a "novice" creator starts creating his game, gets followers by showing his progress or with a playable alpha, but here it is the other way around the guy has spent months spamming asking for subscriptions to patreon/subscribestar and other places.

He keeps saying that his coders/artists need money...

But before starting a project, isn't this something obvious? It's like opening a company, you can't open it with just the desire and ask investors to invest in your word, you must show with facts that your company is profitable.

You need to invest your money as the main capital for the project, not go around begging other people to invest in your project that is just coming to light.

On the other hand, this guy spends his time spamming looking for money and collaborations with other creators, I wouldn't be surprised if he disappears one of these days with all the money they have given him since he has only shown 1 sketch of a comic and 1 image.

And the worst thing of all is that he is doing this knowing the history of the original creator of this game... it is obvious that everyone will be suspicious of that attitude.
 
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