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I'm just eager to finally see real action with Chloe...
I do like Chloe, but... she's been in only half the game. I'd much rather see characters from the beginning getting more content, even if they're not my top LIs. So, for instance, although I already pointed out that Olivia is number 3 for me personally, I don't think she should get any more content before Julia and Penny at least, probably not until after the MC has sex with Gwynn as well (in the past or present). It seems only fair IMO that those characters advance before someone who only existed in the past until around v0.8 or whatever it was.
 

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I do like Chloe, but... she's been in only half the game. I'd much rather see characters from the beginning getting more content, even if they're not my top LIs. So, for instance, although I already pointed out that Olivia is number 3 for me personally, I don't think she should get any more content before Julia and Penny at least, probably not until after the MC has sex with Gwynn as well (in the past or present). It seems only fair IMO that those characters advance before someone who only existed in the past until around v0.8 or whatever it was.
I have to say, like in another game (Origin Story or so), having a sidekick would be interesting. I think dev(s) could do a lot more with Chloe as sidekick. Going back together etc...

But unfortunately there always those people complaining about lesbian interactions and such. I personally think it's ridiculous having 1 mc fucking every girl in the story, when the girls aren't even allowed to touch each other during a 3some/4some/orgy whatever.

The scene where Chloe has sex with mc's 'mom', I can imagine it being removed, and just making it a kissing scene, because it was a bit too fast. But I still love to see something like that. In the competition idea like: if you fuck my mom, I will fuck yours.

In the Artifact, it was just MC doing around fucking everyone. But in this story they have the opportunity to make her a sidekick. I really love the idea...
 

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I do like Chloe, but... she's been in only half the game. I'd much rather see characters from the beginning getting more content, even if they're not my top LIs. So, for instance, although I already pointed out that Olivia is number 3 for me personally, I don't think she should get any more content before Julia and Penny at least, probably not until after the MC has sex with Gwynn as well (in the past or present). It seems only fair IMO that those characters advance before someone who only existed in the past until around v0.8 or whatever it was.
A second idea/reply:

I personally don't like a female protagonist, that goes around and fucks all man, old/fat and ugly. So having her + MC, going around fuck all girls, would be a nice addition.

You are right she is in a lot of scenes, but she is a bit underused, it mostly a build up. Something that they should do with the other characters too, else it looks un-even. Of course they are slowly building up the relationship form BFF, to FWB(F). I only hope it doesn't stay only like that, so she just will be one of his conquests, she does have a thing for girls, I hope they explore that too. I would suggest it a missed opportunity if they don't, just because some cry babies don't like to see lesbian interaction. It could of course be optional like cutting out the scenes for those with with weak hearts muscles or so...

Of course my suggestion would be that in the end she might be MC's daughter too. But then everyone might be. Who knows, we will see. Wonder how they spin that around patreon. It's really a shame that patreon goes against these kind of games, because in this an the artifact, it's a great complex story. I mean Futurama wasn't cancelled either, and he was his father's father too.
 
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I have to say, like in another game (Origin Story or so), having a sidekick would be interesting. I think dev(s) could do a lot more with Chloe as sidekick. Going back together etc...

But unfortunately there always those people complaining about lesbian interactions and such. I personally think it's ridiculous having 1 mc fucking every girl in the story, when the girls aren't even allowed to touch each other during a 3some/4some/orgy whatever.

The scene where Chloe has sex with mc's 'mom', I can imagine it being removed, and just making it a kissing scene, because it was a bit too fast. But I still love to see something like that. In the competition idea like: if you fuck my mom, I will fuck yours.

In the Artifact, it was just MC doing around fucking everyone. But in this story they have the opportunity to make her a sidekick. I really love the idea...
I don't have a problem with lesbianism in stories, even among the MC's own harem. (Harem isn't one of my fetishes, but neither do I shy away from games with that fetish.) TBH, in most cases harems are pretty unrealistic anyway; there aren't actually many women (percentage of total population) in the world that would be OK with an open relationship generally, unless their culture already has harems as a regular part of society. Outside of those cultures, it would be even more especially resisted if that openness is only one-sided (the core principle of a harem). A single male with a dozen women isn't realistic in most cases. That's why they both have to be well-written and set up in such a way that would validate their existence. (A single man with many women being the only remnants of humans in the entire world, for example, would necessitate it for survival of the human race. Or an MC from a culture where harems are already established, like with sultans, isn't hard to imagine.)

I don't see it being logical here, so I don't worry about whether the women can touch one another or not. The premise for the harem is already ludicrous on its face. I play for the lighthearted entertainment of this game, not for a solid course in logic. Anyway, I guess IJS that I'd be find either way. IDK what you're referring to with Chloe having sex with Julia (the MC's mom); do you instead mean Penny, Julia's wife? (Or maybe Penny's her partner; I can't remember if they're for sure married.)
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I personally don't like a female protagonist, that goes around and fucks all man, old/fat and ugly. So having her + MC, going around fuck all girls, would be a nice addition.

You are right she is in a lot of scenes, but she is a bit underused, it mostly a build up. Something that they should do with the other characters too, else it looks un-even. Of course they are slowly building up the relationship form BFF, to FWB(F). I only hope it doesn't stay only like that, so she just will be one of his conquests, she does have a thing for girls, I hope they explore that too. I would suggest it a missed opportunity if they don't, just because some cry babies don't like to see lesbian interaction. It could of course be optional like cutting out the scenes for those with with weak hearts muscles or so...

Of course my suggestion would be that in the end she might be MC's daughter too. But then everyone might be. Who knows, we will see. Wonder how they spin that around patreon. It's really a shame that patreon goes against these kind of games, because in this an the artifact, it's a great complex story. I mean Futurama wasn't cancelled either, and he was his father's father too.
Not sure what FWB(F) means; "friends with benefits... friend"? But yeah, I get the slow build-up. And I don't care all that much if more of her scenes come first; it's ICCreation's story, after all. While I have my druthers, I'm perfectly fine waiting for however long I must for scenes with the preferred LIs I have. And, of course, I don't dislike any of the LIs at all, so all of the scenes are enjoyable to me, regardless of which girl's turn it is.

As for your proposal that she be MC's daughter as well: if you're talking about Chloe, the answer is almost certainly yes. Heavily hinted at, pregnancy in the past has timing that matches, attributes the MC has are found in her as well, etc. I can't see how Chloe could not be the MC's child. For any other present-day characters, the MC won't be their father. ICCreations has already said he's not going to do a MC-could-be-his-own-father type of thing in this game. I might be remembering incorrectly, but I believe that's been discussed already in this game's thread, that neither Natalie nor Kim would be the MC's daughters from the past.
 
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ICCreations has already said he's not going to do a MC-could-be-his-own-father type of thing in this game. I might be remembering incorrectly, but I believe that's been discussed already in this game's thread, that neither Natalie nor Kim would be the MC's daughters from the past.
Is it really confirmed by ICCreations already or it is said in early game or it may change now? I am not really sure MC will not become his own father.
 

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Is it really confirmed by ICCreations already or it is said in early game or it may change now? I am not really sure MC will not become his own father.
Sorry; that's also a part of "I might be remembering incorrectly"; I don't know those things for sure. I thought that was already explained, but... it's always possible I'm mixing up stuff said about another game with this one.
 

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Is it really confirmed by ICCreations already or it is said in early game or it may change now? I am not really sure MC will not become his own father.
Unless the writing is really sloppy, he shouldn't be his own father. So far, the game hasn't been built on paradoxes, whenever the MC changes stuff in the past, a new timeline is created.

So, unfortunately, it seems the MC is the son of the asshole ex. In fact, the mom should be pregnant in the past, since we know when the cousin was conceived, and the MC seems to be older than her.

Of course, that's assuming the writing is coherent. Time travel stories tend to have major holes
 
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I don't have a problem with lesbianism in stories, even among the MC's own harem.....

...IDK what you're referring to with Chloe having sex with Julia (the MC's mom); do you instead mean Penny, Julia's wife? .....

Not sure what FWB(F) means; "friends with benefits... friend"? ....

...For any other present-day characters, the MC won't be their father. ICCreations has already said he's not going to do a MC-could-be-his-own-father type of thing in this game. ....
Harem's in these kind of games, a slow build up of the first one or two girls, then they start to quickly add dozen of girls who we don't even know the name of (I see that happen a lot). I don't like it personally. And you are right it is totally unrealistic. But then it's a sex game, so unrealistic is #1.

There is a deleted scene, if you extract the .rpa files you find an old folder under images,it's there where Chloe kisses mc's 'mom' in the past on the water tower.

BFF = best friends for ever => FWB(F) =>friends with benefits (FOREVER). Or maybe BFWB(F) = best Friends with Benefits (Forever).

And last about being his own father, damn, that was what made The Artifact so fun and f*cked up, and original. But we will see what the updates bring....
 

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Unless the writing is really sloppy, he shouldn't be his own father. So far, the game hasn't been built on paradoxes, whenever the MC changes stuff in the past, a new timeline is created.

So, unfortunately, it seems the MC is the son of the asshole ex. In fact, the mom should be pregnant in the past, since we know when the cousin was conceived, and the MC seems to be older than her.

Of course, that's assuming the writing is coherent. Time travel stories tend to have major holes
That mc older than her was also something I noticed. Not sure how they are going to fix, or maybe I should play it again in time, to see if I read it wrong...
 

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That mc older than her was also something I noticed. Not sure how they are going to fix, or maybe I should play it again in time, to see if I read it wrong...
It's not something that needs correction. MC should be slightly older. If cousin is older, there's only 2 possibilities:

A) - MC is his own father and cousin is actually older despite her dynamic with MC. This contradics the very workings of time travel in this game. It creates a paradox where other actions didn't.
B) - Mom will get impregnated by someone else, sometime close to when the MC is ending up, cuz cousin can't be too much older. That would be stepping into NTR territory, a lot of ppl would be pissed.

Again, only way it makes sense is if mom is already pregnant but isn't visible yet. Sucks to think that mom let a jackass creampie her, and the MC is the offspring, but it's the most logical conclusion.
 
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It's not something that needs correction. MC should be slightly older. If cousin is older, there's only 2 possibilities:

A) - MC is his own father and cousin is actually older despite her dynamic with MC. This contradics the very workings of time travel in this game. It creates a paradox where other actions didn't.
B) - Mom will get impregnated by someone else, sometime close to when the MC is ending up, cuz cousin can't be too much older. That would be stepping into NTR territory, a lot of ppl would be pissed.

Again, only way it makes sense is if mom is already pregnant but isn't visible yet. Sucks to think that mom let a jackass creampie her, and the MC is the offspring, but it's the most likely conclusion.
Yeah, it would be really suck that mc real biological father is the ex-bf of mom. I would rather let mc be his own dad that may break the universe than this crap.
 
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It's not something that needs correction. MC should be slightly older. If cousin is older, there's only 2 possibilities:

A) - MC is his own father and cousin is actually older despite her dynamic with MC. This contradics the very workings of time travel in this game. It creates a paradox where other actions didn't.
B) - Mom will get impregnated by someone else, sometime close to when the MC is ending up, cuz cousin can't be too much older. That would be stepping into NTR territory, a lot of ppl would be pissed.

Again, only way it makes sense is if mom is already pregnant but isn't visible yet. Sucks to think that mom let a jackass creampie her, and the MC is the offspring, but it's the most logical conclusion.
B doesn't fit,it was like older like 1-2 years or more.Meaning that mom should had a kid already, and she didn't. He fucked his aunt earlier and she got chloe.

Shit now I don't know who is who anymore. We got his BFF and we got the daugher of his aunt.

Guess I need to play it again...
 

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There is a deleted scene, if you extract the .rpa files you find an old folder under images,it's there where Chloe kisses mc's 'mom' in the past on the water tower.
OK, except that's not a deleted scene from any actual release, though. At no point in the past releases did that actually happen. I've played every release up to this point as each release came here to F95. Not a single time did Chloe even travel to the past, let alone kiss Julia. So if that is a deleted scene, it was in some early alpha version or something. In any case, it's non-canonical, so I didn't know anything about it. From the MC's present-day characters, in actual canon only Kim has ever kissed Julia.
BFF = best friends for ever => FWB(F) =>friends with benefits (FOREVER). Or maybe BFWB(F) = best Friends with Benefits (Forever).
The "forever" part is pointless, TBH. That's literally never going to happen. At a minimum, everyone dies, so there is no forever with either best friends or friends with benefits. And though I find the use of "forever" in both silly, I've only ever heard of the first. Never heard of "friends with benefits forever". People are very silly sometimes. I guess I'll know now, though, so thanks. I'll just mentally roll my eyes for FWBF whenever I see it.
 
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OK, except that's not a deleted scene from any actual release, though. At no point in the past releases did that actually happen. I've played every release up to this point as each release came here to F95. Not a single time did Chloe even travel to the past, let alone kiss Julia. So if that is a deleted scene, it was in some early alpha version or something. In any case, it's non-canonical, so I didn't know anything about it. From the MC's present-day characters, in actual canon only Kim has ever kissed Julia.

The "forever" part is pointless, TBH. That's literally never going to happen. At a minimum, everyone dies, so there is no forever with either best friends or friends with benefits. And though I find the use of "forever" in both silly, I've only ever heard of the first. Never heard of "friends with benefits forever". People are very silly sometimes. I guess I'll know now, though, so thanks. I'll just mentally roll my eyes for FWBF whenever I see it.
The biggest joke with BFF is that it's mostly what girls call their 'besties' (if that's english at all), and a month later they don't like each other and have a new BFF.
 
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OK, except that's not a deleted scene from any actual release, though. At no point in the past releases did that actually happen. I've played every release up to this point as each release came here to F95. Not a single time did Chloe even travel to the past, let alone kiss Julia. So if that is a deleted scene, it was in some early alpha version or something. In any case, it's non-canonical, so I didn't know anything about it. From the MC's present-day characters, in actual canon only Kim has ever kissed Julia.

The "forever" part is pointless, TBH. That's literally never going to happen. At a minimum, everyone dies, so there is no forever with either best friends or friends with benefits. And though I find the use of "forever" in both silly, I've only ever heard of the first. Never heard of "friends with benefits forever". People are very silly sometimes. I guess I'll know now, though, so thanks. I'll just mentally roll my eyes for FWBF whenever I see it.
The 2 most common uses of FWBF are,

"Friends who became family"
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"Friends will be friends"
 

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Harem's in these kind of games, a slow build up of the first one or two girls, then they start to quickly add dozen of girls who we don't even know the name of (I see that happen a lot). I don't like it personally. And you are right it is totally unrealistic. But then it's a sex game, so unrealistic is #1.

There is a deleted scene, if you extract the .rpa files you find an old folder under images,it's there where Chloe kisses mc's 'mom' in the past on the water tower.

BFF = best friends for ever => FWB(F) =>friends with benefits (FOREVER). Or maybe BFWB(F) = best Friends with Benefits (Forever).

And last about being his own father, damn, that was what made The Artifact so fun and f*cked up, and original. But we will see what the updates bring....

The scene you are referring to dif not involve Chloe because it was Kim. The initial scene was having them getting down and dirty when MC found them. The scene was in the the first or second version. It raised such a ruckus among the different player that the dev decided to cut the scene and just have them kissing. Thus, this opened up the door for the scene with Sylvia making out on the couch and further leading into the hot tub hand job, which was also cut and replaced with the BJ in the casr with Sylvia.

If you go back to a replay you will see that while Kim, Julia, & MC are in the ice cresam parlor, Julia states her age which is a year younger than MC & Kim. She being 18 and MC being 19.
 

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The scene you are referring to dif not involve Chloe because it was Kim. The initial scene was having them getting down and dirty when MC found them. The scene was in the the first or second version. It raised such a ruckus among the different player that the dev decided to cut the scene and just have them kissing. Thus, this opened up the door for the scene with Sylvia making out on the couch and further leading into the hot tub hand job, which was also cut and replaced with the BJ in the casr with Sylvia.

If you go back to a replay you will see that while Kim, Julia, & MC are in the ice cresam parlor, Julia states her age which is a year younger than MC & Kim. She being 18 and MC being 19.
Yeh you're right... It was kim not chloe. I realized that later....

I did see a hottub scene, between the pictures, that I could place in the game. Thanks for that...

What was the problem among different players with them going down and dirty? Too fast,or too tender souls ?
 
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