VN Ren'Py Alternate Existence [S2 v2.3.0] [MrKnobb]

[KeiNineX]

well the game is at its beginning, you can't expect to have all girls fully fleshed out with everything going for them available from the get go. But if you say, ANY of the girls you ENCOUNTERED, you don't like, then I am pretty sure you will be dissapointed. And yeah, there is a reason why I put "any" and "encountered" in big letters. More I can't say at the moment.

But you are contradicting yourself in that statement. You say that I can't expect them to be fleshed out this soon and then you say that if I don't like them now, I won't like them later on. So which is it?

Just because I don't like really like any of the girls at this moment doesn't mean that I won't like them throughout the whole game no? Only Anne, because she's just overall unlikeable and Samara, because the scene with her boyfriend and mc was just "wrong", are the only ones that are almost iredeemable to me. But even in those cases, it doesn't mean I can't just change my mind later on.

Edit. Also the dev said that people should play this for the story and not for the girls or something like that so there's that.

 

[The ArcKnight]

I truly hope you guys stick around to see the story unfold as the story is the biggest asset of the games I make.

So what ill do as you asked so nicely... I'll clear up who is who in the zoo taht are currently in the game.

Li's / Gf will be between Tania and Andrea
Harem we've met them in the city, all i can say here
Sidefucks and i guess a bit romantic part to them will be Anne, Summer, Asami.
Straight up sidefucks Honey, Gabi and Charmane.
Samara... let's wait and see seeing as having a boyfriend is a problem to lots of folks, so for now ....?

Hope this helps.

Thank you for clarifying.

So people that we encountered in the City...
Adrianne, Dani, Technically Gordon.
Well fuck, I guess I found out how we are breaking up Samara and Gordon!

 

[The ArcKnight]

So we get sloppy seconds with Tania then, just great well i'm out then as i hate sloppy seconds i also hate watch others screw any girls in a harem game but i'm not the devs so good luck.

Yeah, not going to lie, I kinda hate this.
I get you put alot of time and effort on developing the Tania character but in my mind, she will always be Jensen's girl. Even if they didn't end up together in the main ending, her sex scene with Jensen was still unavoidable right? She canonically fucked him?

Now I'm fine with other side characters from RtP showing up in AE for this MC, Mr. Brock. But not those that have already fucked Jensen, feels too much like sloppy seconds.

Also, its so weird that both Tania and Andi reminisce in a longing way when talking about Jensen. Showing up your current MC with your former MC and giving him the First MC's cast off's as This MC's main girls is fuckin weird.

Luckily we have the other option of Andie, who's a wonderful character in her own right as our main girl.
Shame we will have to avoid Tania tho.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Her having a boyfriend is not a problem, people break up all the time, having to watch her fuck said boyfriend for no reason whatsoever is a problem for some of us though, even if you can stop watching it. What's the point of that scene, when you say that's not the theme of the game? To let us know that couples fuck? If someone doesn't know that, they shouldn't be in this site in the first place.

Especially the way it ruined what would have been a really sweet moment between her and the MC, like KnightoftheWhiteSun already explained here https://f95zone.to/threads/alternate-existence-s1-e2-mrknobb.70125/post-5478193.

That Samara "scene" was almost like disgusting? She's all sweet to you right after fucking her boyfriend, which you're still kind of forced to watch and you still can see how sweaty she is from it. She could have been the perfect girl but this is just so off-putting that I really don't care about her at all now.

This.

MrKnobb
I don't care that Samara has a boyfriend at the time of meeting the MC.
I just don't want to have to of seen her fuck him.

By the time you include the choice to "Skip" the Samara x Gordon scene, you can see she's already fucking him in the background of the choice menu and the very next scene she is slick with sweat from fucking him.
The "Let me kiss away the pain" scene would of been sweet as hell.... had she not just come back from fucking her BF and then immediately jumped into his arms after.

It comes off not that she's conflicted in her feelings for the MC, like what you may have been going for, but more so like she's shady AF and willing to fuck around behind his back so even if she dumbed Gordon for MC, you'd never be able to trust her.

And this is probably the single biggest mistake of the VN as I LOVE SAMARA otherwise and absolutely want her to dump her current BF to be MC's GF. Sorry Tania and Andi! But yeah, as is, nope, can't trust Sam so Andi has to be my go to girl (which she is great though!)

 

[Darkhound]

But you are contradicting yourself in that statement. You say that I can't expect them to be fleshed out this soon and then you say that if I don't like them now, I won't like them later on. So which is it?

Just because I don't like really like any of the girls at this moment doesn't mean that I won't like them throughout the whole game no? Only Anne, because she's just overall unlikeable and Samara, because the scene with her boyfriend and mc was just "wrong", are the only ones that are almost iredeemable to me. But even in those cases, it doesn't mean I can't just change my mind later on.

Edit. Also the dev said that people should play this for the story and not for the girls or something like that so there's that.

If you want to stay for the story, then you are more than welcome.

but your wording sounded like "this game is shit, the girls are shit (no changing your mind), if I can't choose I will hate it". If I misinterpreted your words, then my bad and I even apologize for it. But... you are, from what you say, one of the few that at least says he could change his mind later on even if he doesnt like them currently. I think that info would have prevented me from saying anything if it would have been present in your post I reacted to. without that info you sounded like every other guy that will not like any currently known character, regardless of how the story progresses. Hope you get what I mean.

But there will be mandatory girls, I can't reveal them, and you may or may not have seen them already. That is part of the story.

Yeah, not going to lie, I kinda hate this.
I get you put alot of time and effort on developing the Tania character but in my mind, she will always be Jensen's girl. Even if they didn't end up together in the main ending, her sex scene with Jensen was still unavoidable right? She canonically fucked him?

Now I'm fine with other side characters from RtP showing up in AE for this MC, Mr. Brock. But not those that have already fucked Jensen, feels too much like sloppy seconds.

Luckily we have the other option of Andie, who's a wonderful character in her own right as our main girl.
Shame we will have to avoid Tania tho.

She canonically fucked him, yeah, but she got the short end of the stick. So canonically she is not Jensens girl, just someone he had an fling with.

So why does she not deserve her own shot at happieness? Because she fucked Jensen? Honestly it makes no difference to any other girl that has sexual experience and is not a virgin anymore. I liked her in RtP and I am quite happy that we see her again and have her as possible GF to make her happy.

In that regard from a pure logical viewpoint you could call every woman that had sex at some point in her life before meeting and engaging with the MC sloppy seconds. Ignoring that fact and just singling out Tania because we know one of her past flings is just utter bias to me.

 

[gregers]

So ... the first episode is all the MC getting the choice of watching other people have sex or not. Then the second episode opens with him deciding to be more assertive, then immediately apologizing to Anne for somehow acting inappropriately, no matter if he'd perved on her or not?

And yeah, the Asian maid with broken English is still a lazy racist stereotype.

 

[Qoo-Rilla]

I truly hope you guys stick around to see the story unfold as the story is the biggest asset of the games I make.

So what ill do as you asked so nicely... I'll clear up who is who in the zoo taht are currently in the game.

Li's / Gf will be between Tania and Andrea
Harem we've met them in the city, all i can say here
Sidefucks and i guess a bit romantic part to them will be Anne, Summer, Asami.
Straight up sidefucks Honey, Gabi and Charmane.
Samara... let's wait and see seeing as having a boyfriend is a problem to lots of folks, so for now ....?

Hope this helps.

I don’t give a chance to the story because there’s absolutely too much to watch others fuck each other. I don't care if they have 1000 boyfriends at the same time, but I'm not interested in watching them fuck each other and that's where I deleted the game.

Then, right at the beginning when that one slut fucks her boyfriend out there in the alley, so it forward a couple of minutes and it's the same slut wants to give me a kiss. Let’s just say that the little one stinks of NTR, albeit light stuff, but still. Not interested in exchanging another man's juices.
That is, a lot of things that force me to remove the game, because I don't bother to annoy myself.

 

[LWtbo]

Well f-kin great thanks a bunch for that.
Becuase of all this shit over Samara I wen't back and ran both opitions.
And yes you already know what their doing that don't mean you gotta watch it.
Do I tink that scene should of been there no wouldn't be my first choice if was making this do I think it should be removed no not really didn't stop my enjoyment of the game I just didn't watch untill now.
And strangly enough at no point did I see her giving a blowjob not that geting a blowjob is a given every time you have sex anyway.
So not sure where that complaint come from.
And yes she may be sweaty from sex Not saying she's not.
But if thats the only possible reason then why if you bother to look before that scene where the lawyer has just ask's for the MC and she go's in the kitchen to get him. then she must also of done so just after shagging the cook as well looking at the sheen on her cleavage there too.
even though the cook was clearly in the kitchen before she came in.

As for the Tender moment "What you talking about willis?.
Tender moment was it though?.
She came in the Kitchen and see's a freind and possibly a crush with bruises he didn't have the day before and so she offers to kiss the one on his lip better that dosn't automaticaly mean with any woman that the kiss wasn't anything more than a friendly peck of a concerned friend.
Now if they had ended up liped locked for a minute and a half or frenchkissing thats a diffrent story.
Even I couldn't mistake that as not being a tender moment.

I'm not saying I'm right and your wrong or visa versa.

I'm just saying not all things are necessarily as they first appear.
and sometime an innocent kiss can be just an innocent kiss

and you definatly don't have to agree with me but this is how I see it.

Just Sayin

 

[The ArcKnight]

She canonically fucked him, yeah, but she got the short end of the stick. So canonically she is not Jensens girl, just someone he had an fling with.

So why does she not deserve her own shot at happieness? Because she fucked Jensen? Honestly it makes no difference to any other girl that has sexual experience and is not a virgin anymore. I liked her in RtP and I am quite happy that we see her again and have her as possible GF to make her happy.

In that regard from a pure logical viewpoint you could call every woman that had sex at some point in her life before meeting and engaging with the MC sloppy seconds. Ignoring that fact and just singling out Tania because we know one of her past flings is just utter bias to me.

Its not about a character deserving the right to happiness.
Would not most people prefer Tania to of been with Jensen after all the history of RtP?

To me, there is such a huge disparity between Jensen and Werner.
Werner (this VN's MC) cannot compete with Jensen in the least. The only reason Tania is even interested is because obviously for some reason Werner has Season 1 RTP Pheromones. xD

But honestly, its not that Tania has a past so its sloppy seconds, its that WE GOT TO PLAY AS THAT PAST! We know the nasty shit Jensen has done with her. So for Werner... yeah, she feels like sloppy seconds, like he will always be second best, getting Tania only be cause Jensen, the (objectively) better man was unavailable.

This is why using a former love interest of the main character in your previous VN for the main love interest in your current VN is a bad idea. This MC will always be second best.

 

[Dr. Psychedelic]

Try now with the new version I just reuploaded the new one

I know U big guy
so U finally visited the Darkness
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[Kato7]

*Running away*

 

[Darkhound]

Well f-kin great thanks a bunch for that.
Becuase of all this shit over Samara I wen't back and ran both opitions.
And yes you already know what their doing that don't mean you gotta watch it.
Do I tink that scene should of been there no wouldn't be my first choice if was making this do I think it should be removed no not really didn't stop my enjoyment of the game I just didn't watch untill now.
And strangly enough at no point did I see her giving a blowjob not that geting a blowjob is a given every time you have sex anyway.
So not sure where that complaint come from.
And yes she may be sweaty from sex Not saying she's not.
But if thats the possible reason then why if you bother to look before that scene where the lawyer has just ask's for the MC and she go's in the kitchen to get him. then she must of done so just after shagging the cook as well looking at the sheen on her cleavage there too.
even though ehe cook was clearly in the kitchen before she came in.

As for the Tender moment "What you talking about willis?.
Tender moment was it though?.
She came in the Kitchen and see's a freind and possibly a crush with bruises he didn't have the day before and so she offers to kiss the one on his lip better that dosn't automaticaly mean with any woman that the kiss wasn't anything more than a friendly peck of a concerned friend.
Now if they had ended up liped locked for a minute and a half or frenchkissing thats a diffrent story.
Even I couldn't mistake that as not being a tender moment.

I'm not saying I'm right and your wrong or visa versa.

I'm just saying not all things are necessarily as they first appear.
and sometime an innocent kiss can be just an innocent kiss

and you definatly don't have to agree with me but this is how I see it.

Just Sayin

There is no Scene regarding a Blowjob, that was just the missguided fantasy of someone that was pissed that Samara was fucking her boyfriend and then caring for her best friend Werner/MC with that "kiss better" option. (calling it NTR) But since people like to believe and follow the comments here instead of playing the game and making their own opionions based on the experience, they just take such a nonsense at face value and believe them real, going so far as even arguing with them.

And thanks for pointing out the obvious flaw in the argument about her being sweaty from the sex. Samara has overall that "sheen" on her skin, doesnt mean she has sex every second of her existence. (Or is she perhaps constantly horny?)

Another thanks for at least trying to see these things in a different light and giving your opinion. It is very constructive. Hope you will enjoy the game in the future too and continue to give your thoughts.

Its not about a character deserving the right to happiness.
Would not most people prefer Tania to of been with Jensen after all the history of RtP?

To me, there is such a huge disparity between Jensen and Werner.
Werner (this VN's MC) cannot compete with Jensen in the least. The only reason Tania is even interested is because obviously for some reason Werner has Season 1 RTP Pheromones. xD

But honestly, its not that Tania has a past so its sloppy seconds, its that WE GOT TO PLAY AS THAT PAST! We know the nasty shit Jensen has done with her. So for Werner... yeah, she feels like sloppy seconds, like he will always be second best, getting Tania only be cause Jensen, the (objectively) better man was unavailable.

This is why using a former love interest of a main character in you previous novel is a bad idea. This MC will always be second best.

I believe it was pointed out already, that you can't compare Werner/MC with Jensen. Jensen was an older guy, already grown up and "matured" while Werner is a young guy struggling with life and baggage. The total opposite of Jensen. In this game we will see how the MC changes and matures, at least that is the plan I know of. And you are right, at the moment "objectively" Jensen is/was the better man. But it is not set in stone that it will stay that way.

And you are pretty mistaken, that much I can reveal. Werner/MC has NOT the Season 1 RtP Pheromones, though I can understand why you would mistake it for that. But if you argue that Tania is only interested because of that in the MC, why is Andi too? Especially as at that point they wouldn't have been influenced more than a mere few seconds while he was passing by. (In which case the MC should be more Jensen at that point already for that to be true, no?) Further should be pointed out that they don't show the reactions to the MC like they did with Jensen while his Pheromones took effect. Just a few things that should be taken into consideration.

Sure I was sad that Tania got rejected by Jensen. So what? For me it makes no difference. Your argument that its a bad choice to use characters from your previous Novel is dumb, sorry to say that. It would make sense if the AE-Story was not set in the same universe and roughly same timeline as RtP. But it is, so it is nice that we have a chance with characters that had no chance in the previous story. That is at least my viewpoint on that matter and why I find your argument dumb. It is in NO WAY meant as an insult towards you, just my honest opionon. Hope you can forgive me.

We can even agree to disagree, but if you are willing, just follow the story and form your own opinion when you get to know more.

 

[Dr. Psychedelic]

*Running away*

oh!
I think I scared him away

 

[The ArcKnight]

Well f-kin great thanks a bunch for that.
Becuase of all this shit over Samara I wen't back and ran both opitions.
And yes you already know what their doing that don't mean you gotta watch it.
Do I tink that scene should of been there no wouldn't be my first choice if was making this do I think it should be removed no not really didn't stop my enjoyment of the game I just didn't watch untill now.
And strangly enough at no point did I see her giving a blowjob not that geting a blowjob is a given every time you have sex anyway.
So not sure where that complaint come from.
And yes she may be sweaty from sex Not saying she's not.
But if thats the possible reason then why if you bother to look before that scene where the lawyer has just ask's for the MC and she go's in the kitchen to get him. then she must of done so just after shagging the cook as well looking at the sheen on her cleavage there too.
even though ehe cook was clearly in the kitchen before she came in.

As for the Tender moment "What you talking about willis?.
Tender moment was it though?.
She came in the Kitchen and see's a freind and possibly a crush with bruises he didn't have the day before and so she offers to kiss the one on his lip better that dosn't automaticaly mean with any woman that the kiss wasn't anything more than a friendly peck of a concerned friend.
Now if they had ended up liped locked for a minute and a half or frenchkissing thats a diffrent story.
Even I couldn't mistake that as not being a tender moment.

I'm not saying I'm right and your wrong or visa versa.

I'm just saying not all things are necessarily as they first appear.
and sometime an innocent kiss can be just an innocent kiss

and you definatly don't have to agree with me but this is how I see it.

Just Sayin

I still kina like Samara, so you are welcome for that trip.

But also some points.

Spoiler: How the voyeurism choice is presented

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This choice should of been offered a bit before having to actually see it happen. Even if you choose not to watch...

Spoiler: After saying NO to watching.

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You still have to see it happen for a shot or two in the background. :/

Spoiler: What should be an intimate moment and a (very)"Friendly Kiss."

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Yup, this is obviously just two friends, nothing romantic or sexual going on here...
You see how this could of been a very sweet moment between Samara and MC? If you didn't just see her fucking her BF a second ago you wouldn't of even notice how sweaty she is, you'd just be drawn in by her eyes.

Spoiler: Cheater, Cheater...

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And finally almost caught in the act.
Sam, instead of being conflicted over what just happened between her and Werner, decides to doubles down on her commitment to her BF... literally jumping into his arms and professing her love for him.
It makes her seem less conflicted and more duplicitous to me. Like if she can act like that was nothing... maybe it was really nothing? Or maybe she can turn it on or off with the snap of her fingers. How could you trust someone like that?


So yes, this is my issue with the Samara scene spelled out.
With a few small edits: Making the choice to see or not see the upcoming scene at the start of the ally instead, you change the whole context for the kiss and her running back to Gordon.

I still kinda like Samara, she is the MC's rock after all, but if this stuff keeps happening, I can't see her as more then a friend.

 

[Garatempus2]

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[The ArcKnight]

There is no Scene regarding a Blowjob, that was just the missguided fantasy of someone that was pissed that Samara was fucking her boyfriend and then caring for her best friend Werner/MC with that "kiss better" option. (calling it NTR) But since people like to believe and follow the comments here instead of playing the game and making their own opionions based on the experience, they just take such a nonsense at face value and believe them real, going so far as even arguing with them.

And thanks for pointing out the obvious flaw in the argument about her being sweaty from the sex. Samara has overall that "sheen" on her skin, doesnt mean she has sex every second of her existence. (Or is she perhaps constantly horny?)

Another thanks for at least trying to see these things in a different light and giving your opinion. It is very constructive. Hope you will enjoy the game in the future too and continue to give your thoughts.


I believe it was pointed out already, that you can't compare Werner/MC with Jensen. Jensen was an older guy, already grown up and "matured" while Werner is a young guy struggling with life and baggage. The total opposite of Jensen. In this game we will see how the MC changes and matures, at least that is the plan I know of. And you are right, at the moment "objectively" Jensen is/was the better man. But it is not set in stone that it will stay that way.

And you are pretty mistaken, that much I can reveal. Werner/MC has NOT the Season 1 RtP Pheromones, though I can understand why you would mistake it for that. But if you argue that Tania is only interested because of that in the MC, why is Andi too? Especially as at that point they wouldn't have been influenced more than a mere few seconds while he was passing by. (In which case the MC should be more Jensen at that point already for that to be true, no?) Further should be pointed out that they don't show the reactions to the MC like they did with Jensen while his Pheromones took effect. Just a few things that should be taken into consideration.

Sure I was sad that Tania got rejected by Jensen. So what? For me it makes no difference. Your argument that its a bad choice to use characters from your previous Novel is dumb, sorry to say that. It would make sense if the AE-Story was not set in the same universe and roughly same timeline as RtP. But it is, so it is nice that we have a chance with characters that had no chance in the previous story. That is at least my viewpoint on that matter and why I find your argument dumb. It is in NO WAY meant as an insult towards you, just my honest opionon. Hope you can forgive me.

We can even agree to disagree, but if you are willing, just follow the story and form your own opinion when you get to know more.

The Pheromones was a joke, hence my xD after.

Obviously though, there IS something supernatural going on with Werner.
Tania and Andi both notice it while he's passing by.

Spoiler: Hooked on a feeling

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So something is going on with the MC supernaturally or metaphysically that got their attention and then its his follow up words about them being beautiful peaked their interest.

My problem is that Werner is only going to get Tania because Jensen is not available to her.

Its like having a girlfriend who's fucked your best friend (alot) and would rather of been with your best friend instead of you had he been available. Only its worse because you as the current bf got to experience all the kinky/nasty stuff said best friend did with your girlfriend before you.

Does that make any sense?

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I know my posts sound like I'm just relentlessly shitting on this VN, but honestly its only because I like it, a lot.
The story is intriguing and a decent number of the girls are super hot.
I just am pointing out the parts I did not like and how they could be corrected in the future to make the story/game better.
Because the story is very new and has time to make itself better and with a few course corrections now, this visual novel could be fucking amazing. And I'd like to think, judging by the amount of likes my posts here have been getting, I might be on to something? -Shrugs-

 

[Darkhound]

The Pheromones was a joke, hence my xD after.

Obviously though, there IS something supernatural going on with Werner.
Tania and Andi both notice it while he's passing by.

Spoiler: Hooked on a feeling

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So something is going on with the MC supernaturally or metaphysically that got their attention and then its his follow up words about them being beautiful peaked their interest.

My problem is that Werner is only going to get Tania because Jensen is not available to her.

Its like having a girlfriend who's fucked your best friend (alot) and would rather of been with your best friend instead of you had he been available. Only its worse because you got to experience all the kinky/nasty stuff said best friend did with your girlfriend before you.

Does that make any sense?

Yeah, that I can agree on, there is something going on with the MC, there are enough hints througout the game already to make that obvious. I just wanted to point out it has nothing to do with the things that where present in RtP. Though.. you could argue they could have felt his stares, which he tried to supress. Just for arguments sake

True, Werner/MC is only going to get Tania because Jensen didnt want her. BUT she is moving on. She is not taking Werner/MC as placeholder, I think that is not in her character. Hope you get what I mean with that.

Yeah, you make sense. At least I can understand where you are coming from. But I hope you can understand, that from what I see in her character, I believe she is genuinely trying to move on. And that I, exactly because I know what she has experienced with Jensen, want er to still become happy and through us/Werner/MC instead of some douche asshole that would be a downgrade from Jensen anyway. As Jensen was almost the perfect MC.

Hope I make sense to you and you can at least understand why I don't agree with your "sloppy seconds" stance, though I can really understand where you are coming from and why you see it that way. We both have different viewpoints and opinions and that is ok. Perhaps we should call it a draw? As either of us, depending on viewpoint, can be right or wrong.

Edit:

IF I would view you endlessly shitting on this VN for no reason I would not try to argue with you or at least wanting to show you my opinion and viewpoint on these matters. I would just facepalm your posts and be done with it. You try to stay constructive and not just negative which is a big plus for me. And you like Samara, thats why I liked your other post.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Yeah, that I can agree on, there is something going on with the MC, there are enough hints througout the game already to make that obvious. I just wanted to point out it has nothing to do with the things that where present in RtP. Though.. you could argue they could have felt his stares, which he tried to supress. Just for arguments sake

True, Werner/MC is only going to get Tania because Jensen didnt want her. BUT she is moving on. She is not taking Werner/MC as placeholder, I think that is not in her character. Hope you get what I mean with that.

Yeah, you make sense. At least I can understand where you are coming from. But I hope you can understand, that from what I see in her character, I believe she is genuinely trying to move on. And that I, exactly because I know what she has experienced with Jensen, want er to still become happy and through us/Werner/MC instead of some douche asshole that would be a downgrade from Jensen anyway. As Jensen was almost the perfect MC.

Hope I make sense to you and you can at least understand why I don't agree with your "sloppy seconds" stance, though I can really understand where you are coming from and why you see it that way. We both have different viewpoints and opinions and that is ok. Perhaps we should call it a draw? As either of us, depending on viewpoint, can be right or wrong.

Edit:

IF I would view you endlessly shitting on this VN for no reason I would not try to argue with you or at least wanting to show you my opinion and viewpoint on these matters. I would just facepalm your posts and be done with it. You try to stay constructive and not just negative which is a big plus for me. And you like Samara, thats why I liked your other post.

I get where you are coming from even if I have a different perspective on Tania in this VN.

I always try to stay constructive with my criticisms. I know just because I don't like a fetish doesn't mean others won't. Which is why I try to not advocate for removal of something I don't like, just modify it like with switches to make things avoidable. Then again if it's something that is obviously the whole point of a VN (like some NTR games) I just will throw it on ignore and move on. Typically,I wouldn't invest the kinda energy I have into my replies here if I didn't see something worth my time.

But that's okay, we can always agree to having different opinions. In this case, you get Tania, I get Andie and we both get to figure out what the Fuck is going on here? Lol

 

[RedPillBlues]

This is such a mess for a harem game. Resembles New Coral City rather then anything like a harem. Like will it even be worth playing for the harem part when the first third of the game is just voyeur scenes on repeat? I dont think so, all the game is currently is frustrating, and not the I want to see the light at the end of the tunnel frustrating either.

 

[sn3p]

Thought Anne would be a LI because she is prominent in the banner.

Yes, me too