VN Ren'Py Alternate Existence [S2 v2.3.0] [MrKnobb]

[Mayonesa]

well the scenes that were the source of this long discussion where already made avoidable in the last update if that is not enough to move on from this then I don't know what will be.

Well tbh, the scenes were made skipable, not avoidable because they still happen. If they were avoidable it would mean they don't happen at all. Avoidable and skipable isn't the same after all, and to some people knowing that it always happens is enough to lose interest in the characters involved in the scene no matter what they do later on.

For me every character in a harem game, that will have sex with the MC shouldn't be shown having sex with others be it a girl or a guy, some people don't mind it if they fuck others before they start with the MC, but many that like harem games and/or romance wouldn't like it and it will "ruin" said character that was shown having sex, even if you make it skipable, because seeing it or not it still happen so...

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

Not gonna lie,would love a non standard game over ,where MC calls Anne out,tells her to eat a dick,her and her bitch daughter,and hauls ass for the nearest homeless shelter. Lol

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

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This is a human revolution! No more steps backwards, no more of the scorched past!




Get angry! Save the gurl! Enjoy her company!

Game oN!

Way to bring up Jensen and Tania's history lol

Here comes that can of worms again.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

Please indicate to me in my comment below where i said i cannot make chioceable game?
As for waste of time rendering, the skippable choice for Anne sex and the changes to the Samara sex part i did after all renders were done. The scenes were created without choices for a reason. I chose to change them due to demand from you guys.

Choices do mean a damn thing yes. Not all for sure will change the progression with a girl or the story but some will. RTP had very few choices, AE so far have way more. No I am not DocPinkCake that can do multiple choices and I'll never try to do what he does, He's super human in that regard. AE is in lots of ways linear but with choices.

 

[LWtbo]

Truely amazing just how many Dev's this game has First and foremost we have MrKnobb the actual Dev.
And then we got a hell of a lot of people that tell us this just isn't how the story "MrKnobb's story" should actually be written.
Meaning MrKnobb dosn't know his own story or how he think's and wants to tell it.
Bit f-kin arrogant that if you think about it this is his story what the f-ck makes you think you know it better than he do's.

And then we have the one's that manage to see more things happening in the game than actually do's.
Thats Impressive really because its a game.
Unless its in some ways implied or talked about like the rape in RTP was in a game or If you don't see it happen actually in the game it didn't f-kin happen.
If you think Samara did a blowjob before she kiss'es the MC providing you accept the kiss in the first place then thats entirly your own imagination makeing you think that not MrKnobb and I'm afraid that says more about you than the game.

I just wish that is people are gonna complain they at least complain about the facts and whats actually happend in the game.

As for Summer if anything I think the MC was a little too forgiving of her outburst and told MrKnobb so but its his game so I can live with it.

But lets for a second theorise again about possible motives for Summer painting the MC as a Pervert.
I would say that as a girl that hate's change in the status co as hinted in her Bio.

And since she first see's the MC stood next to her mom while her mom is in a bikini then the jump to Summer calling him a pervert makes more sence than you would think.

I am guessing and its only Guessing that summer's thoughts at the time are probably something along the lines of
"that must be him just look at him stood next to mom like he owns the place".
"Why do's he have to be here", "we were better off without him", "Ah I don't want him here", "Damit but how do I get rid of him".
"Hey mommy I dont like this guy can't get rid of him?". "nope thats not likely to work hmm but if I can make him seem to be a pervert in mommys eye's", " and then ask her to get rid of him well that might work".

Of course thats just speculation and theorising since we don't see her thoughts or yet know the motivation behind her Pervert outburst maybe she just saw you subconsciously looking at Mom's tit's even though you didn't meant to lookhence the subconsciously.
But I'm sure MrKnobb will tell us at some point in the game.

And on that note please if your gonna complain about something get it f-kin right and make sure its actually in the game before you complain about it.

Just Sayin.

 

[Amahl Farouk]

Please indicate to me in my comment below where i said i cannot make chioceable game?
As for waste of time rendering, the skippable choice for Anne sex and the changes to the Samara sex part i did after all renders were done. The scenes were created without choices for a reason. I chose to change them due to demand from you guys.

Every single one of your renders was bloody brilliant mate, don't listen to a word naysayers are yapping on about. It has been a bloody long time since I saw such a well put together game, so whatever it is that you are doing, keep doing it, some of those camera angles were brilliant. MY own particular favorite is the bimbo girl from the cafe, that lazy man of her needs to get in some overtime to pay to supersize the boobage

 

[FunFuntomes]

Every single one of your renders was bloody brilliant mate, don't listen to a word naysayers are yapping on about. It has been a bloody long time since I saw such a well put together game, so whatever it is that you are doing, keep doing it, some of those camera angles were brilliant. MY own particular favorite is the bimbo girl from the cafe, that lazy man of her needs to get in some overtime to pay to supersize the boobage

this! besides people are still salty over the girls they couldn't get in RtP so they will complain about the dumbest reasons...

just give us a love path with Summer and the game becomes a guaranteed 5 stars

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

this! besides people are still salty over the girls they couldn't get in RtP so they will complain about the dumbest reasons...

just give us a love path with Summer and the game becomes a guaranteed 5 stars

Speak for yourself

 

[The Sailor Man]

Man i just LOVE your signature.... Working as an IT guy in a marine company and I was in the Navy years back ships are just awesome. I take it that's a Naval Frigate in your signature?

Yes Im retired now but il loved those times when I was on deck, oh, beautiful time.

 

[Hyperserver]

well - reading through all the comments above, i just have to add my 2 cents:

It's a common issue that some players rage and bad-comment a story, which just has STARTED.
They don't know what's comming up and what's planned at all.
I for my part, i LOVE twists within the story - to the one or the other side.
I love it, when things turn out to be different as they seemed on the first sight.
Changing a story in whatever direction, just to please some people has never been a good thing, as there already is a reason why things got planned the origin way. Adapting to "new demands" mostly doesn't really fit into the whole plot.

Something like that nearly happened to "Retrieving the Past", and i am glad, that MrKnobb mostly stuck to his vision.
Same goes for this game - just do YOUR vision, mate. Don't listen to the few, who get online, raging about what they don't like - stick to your vision, which pleases all those who enjoy in silence, which is mostly the majority. Those who enjoy what you do and the way you do, have no reason to get online and brag about how well you did.

 

[TheSidewinder]

Yes Im retired now but il loved those times when I was on deck, oh, beautiful time.

Missile Frigate? If so, what Class?

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Truely amazing just how many Dev's this game has First and foremost we have MrKnobb the actual Dev.
And then we got a hell of a lot of people that tell us this just isn't how the story "MrKnobb's story" should actually be written.
Meaning MrKnobb dosn't know his own story or how he think's and wants to tell it.
Bit f-kin arrogant that if you think about it this is his story what the f-ck makes you think you know it better than he do's.

And then we have the one's that manage to see more things happening in the game than actually do's.
Thats Impressive really because its a game.
Unless its in some ways implied or talked about like the rape in RTP was in a game or If you don't see it happen actually in the game it didn't f-kin happen.
If you think Samara did a blowjob before she kiss'es the MC providing you accept the kiss in the first place then thats entirly your own imagination makeing you think that not MrKnobb and I'm afraid that says more about you than the game.

I just wish that is people are gonna complain they at least complain about the facts and whats actually happend in the game.

As for Summer if anything I think the MC was a little too forgiving of her outburst and told MrKnobb so but its his game so I can live with it.

But lets for a second theorise again about possible motives for Summer painting the MC as a Pervert.
I would say that as a girl that hate's change in the status co as hinted in her Bio.

And since she first see's the MC stood next to her mom while her mom is in a bikini then the jump to Summer calling him a pervert makes more sence than you would think.

I am guessing and its only Guessing that summer's thoughts at the time are probably something along the lines of
"that must be him just look at him stood next to mom like he owns the place".
"Why do's he have to be here", "we were better off without him", "Ah I don't want him here", "Damit but how do I get rid of him".
"Hey mommy I dont like this guy can't get rid of him?". "nope thats not likely to work hmm but if I can make him seem to be a pervert in mommys eye's", " and then ask her to get rid of him well that might work".

Of course thats just speculation and theorising since we don't see her thoughts or yet know the motivation behind her Pervert outburst maybe she just saw you subconsciously looking at Mom's tit's even though you didn't meant to lookhence the subconsciously.
But I'm sure MrKnobb will tell us at some point in the game.

And on that note please if your gonna complain about something get it f-kin right and make sure its actually in the game before you complain about it.

Just Sayin.

yeah, I really can't wrap my head around people telling devs how their story should be told or kinks/fetishes should be explored. Like there is a dictionary out their with all the kinks and fetishes and if they don't follow it, it can't be called that. Not everyone has the same strength of a fetish. Some people enjoy slaps on the butt, some people want to be choked and tied but both can fall under "rough sex".

And not every story need to "clean", some stories are dirty as shit and filled with awful things and some stories are "softer" and simply keep them in the background. But both have a place to be told, and one doesn't mean the other can't exist. And it's sure as fuck doesn't mean everyone will like or should like both.

It's the same argument people have with "think of the children!" and video games, the children are fine. They have plenty of other things they can do, and not worry about that.

And so anybody who think the this story is told "wrong" and are hurt by it, you've been warned about it, much like any "content warning" a lot of games have. And much like a parent who can see that warning, don't buy it and then be made at the retailer/devs for selling it to you.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

yeah, I really can't wrap my head around people telling devs how their story should be told or kinks/fetishes should be explored. Like there is a dictionary out their with all the kinks and fetishes and if they don't follow it, it can't be called that. Not everyone has the same strength of a fetish. Some people enjoy slaps on the butt, some people want to be choked and tied but both can fall under "rough sex".

And not every story need to "clean", some stories are dirty as shit and filled with awful things and some stories are "softer" and simply keep them in the background. But both have a place to be told, and one doesn't mean the other can't exist. And it's sure as fuck doesn't mean everyone will like or should like both.

It's the same argument people have with "think of the children!" and video games, the children are fine. They have plenty of other things they can do, and not worry about that.

And so anybody who think the this story is told "wrong" and are hurt by it, you've been warned about it, much like any "content warning" a lot of games have. And much like a parent who can see that warning, don't buy it and then be made at the retailer/devs for selling it to you.

The problem a lot of people have had so far is the warning in the OP says "
Also note the story contains some voyeur scenes where the MC will have an option to watch or not.
This however will rarely happen and is not the theme of the game". The first chapter is 20 percent complete, and there has been
a shitload of voyeurism.

That's where most of the non troll criticism has started.

 

[ChaosC]

A massive, huge thank you to MrKnobb for this awesome game (and for Retrieving The Past). Loads of fun, awesome renders and definitely some of the TOP content available.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

The problem a lot of people have had so far is the warning in the OP says "
Also note the story contains some voyeur scenes where the MC will have an option to watch or not.
This however will rarely happen and is not the theme of the game". The first chapter is 20 percent complete, and there has been
a shitload of voyeurism.

That's where most of the non troll criticism has started.

this is the full warning

"Some scenes will have game characters having sex and not with the MC.
Most of them will be avoidable but some are story driven and cannot be skipped.
Also note the story contains some voyeur scenes where the MC will have an option to watch or not.
This however will rarely happen and is not the theme of the game. "

Now how many sex scenes have been in the game? 3. How many did the mc watched? 2(and one was so short, I blinked and it was over). How many did the mc had 1(or 2 if you explore both route). And I know you like the story, so you know it's early. But so far it feels fairly equal, considering the mc is one person while he interact with plenty of people with an active sex life.

Spoiler: I don't know if that part of the issue for some people, it's here.

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And the mc is already trying to be better about peeping in the house, and had a talk with Anne about it.

And this is the second update of the game, which according to the dev is a 3+ year project.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

this is the full warning

"Some scenes will have game characters having sex and not with the MC.
Most of them will be avoidable but some are story driven and cannot be skipped.
Also note the story contains some voyeur scenes where the MC will have an option to watch or not.
This however will rarely happen and is not the theme of the game. "

Now how many sex scenes have been in the game? 3. How many did the mc watched? 2(and one was so short, I blinked and it was over). How many did the mc had 1(or 2 if you explore both route). And I know you like the story, so you know it's early. But so far it feels fairly equal, considering the mc is one person while he interact with plenty of people with an active sex life.

Spoiler: I don't know if that part of the issue for some people, it's here.

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And the mc is already trying to be better about peeping in the house, and had a talk with Anne about it.

And this is the second update of the game, which according to the dev is a 3+ year project.

Its broken into parts, and part 1,is nearly a quarter complete. And so far this has been a peeping simulator.

Also there this weird cognitive dissonance, where when I choose for MC not to peep,doesn't matter,30 seconds later, he's fucking peeping again. And then he's apologizing to the alcoholic exhibitionist he lives with because, he's been trapped into living with her.

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

 

[The Sailor Man]

Missile Frigate? If so, what Class?

which from the signature or where I served ? From sig is probably from U.S. Navy i cant tell wich model is because seems to be a old model, i served to Britsh model old enough to be put an the end of service, renovated and sell to another country, and is
anti-submarine combat class and equipped with missiles.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

Cool to her you didn't mind Anne sex scene.

Samara and her boyfriend love each other. He's more kinky than she is. I am in no way trying to make like he mistreats her at all. He loves her and she him. She loves MC too as a friend. Samara has a boyfriend and no I dont think making the bf a douche is right way, sorry.
I just cannot understand why so many focus on Samara. I still have to introduce if i can remember now another 6 girls...

As for choices, I meant was not as many as DocPinkCake. When we were still friends he told me for Acting Lessons he had 22 endings planned.
Of course AE will have multiple choices/options along the way. But lets not focus on that. Rather if you play AE see it as an alternative to many other games with many choices etc. IF its not what you like by all means thx for playing. I am not against you or anyone who do not like AE.

I am a little irritated with players (not you per se) who doesnt like AE or RTP and keep badgering me and those who like the game(s) that its shit and this or that must happen. To those who do not like it, please move on towards other games and leave us who are invested in AE alone.

To be honest... sigh, im pretty tired of trying to explain my vision for AE.

Actually I never said I have any problem
With Anne scene
And honestly it was hot when the male escort said that she don't let any male to touch her
So I really don't have any problem there

But for Samara's
You want to make her bf to look like asshole so it was not really necessary
To make a scene where mc watches her having sex with her bf
It would have being better idea
If u made it lke her bf was forcing her to have a sex with her
Then there would be a option if mc wants to involve and help samara
And other option could be mc just stand and enjoy this sence

And for the last
You have already said that u can't give many choices to the players
Example like involve in the scene were samara was having sex
(And I don't know what you did in this small small updates but by reading others it sounds like it just a skipable scene)

That's why I say your way better in kintinc novel

 

[eddie987]

this is the full warning

"Some scenes will have game characters having sex and not with the MC.
Most of them will be avoidable but some are story driven and cannot be skipped.
Also note the story contains some voyeur scenes where the MC will have an option to watch or not.
This however will rarely happen and is not the theme of the game. "

Now how many sex scenes have been in the game? 3. How many did the mc watched? 2(and one was so short, I blinked and it was over). How many did the mc had 1(or 2 if you explore both route). And I know you like the story, so you know it's early. But so far it feels fairly equal, considering the mc is one person while he interact with plenty of people with an active sex life.

Spoiler: I don't know if that part of the issue for some people, it's here.

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And the mc is already trying to be better about peeping in the house, and had a talk with Anne about it.

And this is the second update of the game, which according to the dev is a 3+ year project.

People playing the game won't think what might happen in 2 years, but what they just saw and the "premature" harem tag didn't help here. Going into a game with harem/incest/romance tags, you don't expect that the voyeurism part will be the MC watching other people fucking the girls, but something like that scene with Anne in the shower.

Like I said before (but the mods apparently didn't like that comment...) the devs should keep in mind that the fact they know what's going to happen down the road, might make them see things in a different way than some of the players. Let's say that there won't be any more voyeur scenes in the future. No reason for anyone to be bothered by something that might be even less than 5% of the game's sexual content, right? For the player though that was 100% for the first release and just dropped to 67% after the second one.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

Cool to her you didn't mind Anne sex scene.

Samara and her boyfriend love each other. He's more kinky than she is. I am in no way trying to make like he mistreats her at all. He loves her and she him. She loves MC too as a friend. Samara has a boyfriend and no I dont think making the bf a douche is right way, sorry.
I just cannot understand why so many focus on Samara. I still have to introduce if i can remember now another 6 girls...

As for choices, I meant was not as many as DocPinkCake. When we were still friends he told me for Acting Lessons he had 22 endings planned.
Of course AE will have multiple choices/options along the way. But lets not focus on that. Rather if you play AE see it as an alternative to many other games with many choices etc. IF its not what you like by all means thx for playing. I am not against you or anyone who do not like AE.

I am a little irritated with players (not you per se) who doesnt like AE or RTP and keep badgering me and those who like the game(s) that its shit and this or that must happen. To those who do not like it, please move on towards other games and leave us who are invested in AE alone.

To be honest... sigh, im pretty tired of trying to explain my vision for AE.

I like the game,and its your game,I don't think I've asked for any changes. I'm just hoping it pivots hard away from the peeping.

But that apology to Anne from the MC will probably forever irk me.