VN Ren'Py Alternate Existence [S2 v2.3.0] [MrKnobb]

[NoxLaw]

I thought Anne is supposed to be unlikable, apparently not... I honestly don't see how I'm supposed to like her character. Like after 17 years she starts to feel bad we're supposed to just forget everything that happened? This is honestly strange to me because I've been playing this whole time thinking she was the "bad guy" and we'll end up "beating her"(not physically). Also that escort stuff is just wrong. It's pretty dissapointing because I was actually looking forward to telling her to finally fuck off. This might actually be a deal breaker for me because I really don't want to play "happy family" with her. And no, I'm not trying to coerce dev into changing it.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

I'm a lover not a fighter...

There will be bad people in the game, just hang on a bit, but if you still don't like Anne by all means up to you.

I thought Anne is supposed to be unlikable, apparently not... I honestly don't see how I'm supposed to like her character. Like after 17 years she starts to feel bad we're supposed to just forget everything that happened? This is honestly strange to me because I've been playing this whole time thinking she was the "bad guy" and we'll end up "beating her"(not physically). Also that escort stuff is just wrong. It's pretty dissapointing because I was actually looking forward to telling her to finally fuck off. This might actually be a deal breaker for me because I really don't want to play "happy family" with her. And no, I'm not trying to coerce dev into changing it.

 

[Rocc46]

I thought Anne is supposed to be unlikable, apparently not... I honestly don't see how I'm supposed to like her character. Like after 17 years she starts to feel bad we're supposed to just forget everything that happened? This is honestly strange to me because I've been playing this whole time thinking she was the "bad guy" and we'll end up "beating her"(not physically). Also that escort stuff is just wrong. It's pretty dissapointing because I was actually looking forward to telling her to finally fuck off. This might actually be a deal breaker for me because I really don't want to play "happy family" with her. And no, I'm not trying to coerce dev into changing it.

Right? She literally has 0 redeeming qualities other than being hot, which in this case is not enough. I just don't see how I'm supposed to like her.

 

[Darkhound]

Lol I love Anne's model. But the foster care system at least in the U.S. is profoundly fucked up. Like its a cesspool of abuse and molestation.
For someone to willingly condemn a 5 year old to that,well I'm sure she feels bad. Bit I'm also sure there's rapists,and murderers feel bad too.

And then the fact that she feels so bad,it took 17 years for the guilt to kick in?

And she feels so bad,that she doesn't bring him in,and be like let me pay for college,its hey do something for me,and I'll pay for your college.

Then there's the weird hooker thing. She feels bad for having hookers over,but she doesn't feel bad when he first shows up.

Plus the apology thing I won't rehash now.

I mean like I said,you're right the model is smoking hot. But Anne is bordering on almost villain territory so far in the story. And it will take a LOT for me at least to see her as anything other than shallow,narcissistic and borderline evil. (Like take a LITERAL bullet,type a lot.)

You know... At least one thing our Dev here has done right. You hate Anne for WHAT she has done. And I think if a Dev can pull it Off to incite not only good emotions towards every character he did a good Job. And in the end it is up to us to forgive her or not. But let me add I See that purely from a view of someone that enjoys feeling emotions towards characters when reading a story.

 

[NoxLaw]

You know... At least one thing our Dev here has done right. You hate Anne for WHAT she has done. And I think if a Dev can pull it Off to incite not only good emotions towards every character he did a good Job. And in the end it is up to us to forgive her or not. But let me add I See that purely from a view of someone that enjoys feeling emotions towards characters when reading a story.

But it isn't actually up to us is it. Because we are forced to be a goody two-shoes around her. If we could tell her to just go fuck her self, which we won't be because she's supposed to be likable, I wouldn't care at all about this situation at all. The problem is that MC is is "forced" to like her and I don't like her. That's my issue with that whole situation.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

You know... At least one thing our Dev here has done right. You hate Anne for WHAT she has done. And I think if a Dev can pull it Off to incite not only good emotions towards every character he did a good Job. And in the end it is up to us to forgive her or not. But let me add I See that purely from a view of someone that enjoys feeling emotions towards characters when reading a story.

I'm just hoping and praying and wishing,the MC gets the option to tell everyone in that house to fuck off......and then the MC heads off towards some sort of...................Alternate existence.

 

[Darkhound]

But it isn't actually up to us is it. Because we are forced to be a goody two-shoes around her. If we could tell her to just go fuck her self, which we won't be because she's supposed to be likable, I wouldn't care at all about this situation at all. The problem is that MC is is "forced" to like her and I don't like her. That's my issue with that whole situation.

He is putting up with it for now. But maybe He just uses her to get what he wants.. College, money, a roof over his head until he gets an alternative. We will See in the future. Or is there any notion of MC really liking her atm?

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

He is putting up with it for now. But maybe He just uses her to get what he wants.. College, money, a roof over his head until he gets an alternative. We will See in the future. Or is there any notion of MC really liking her atm?

The uncontrolled spastic peeping/obsessing is kind of a give away lol.

And that fucking apology.

 

[Darkhound]

The uncontrolled spastic peeping/obsessing is kind of a give away lol.

And that fucking apology.

You always Withstand lookin at hot girls If they literally shove it in your face? Do you really like like them then?

Apology yes. Why not to avoid getting thrown out and loose what mc wants the most (College of his choice)

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

You always Withstand lookin at hot girls If they literally shove it in your face?

Apology yes. Why not to avoid getting thrown out and loose what mc wants the most (College of his choice)

To me personally,it's like this yea sure MC is getting something he wants.......from the Asshole who ruined his life in the first place.

And if someone fucks you over once,why on earth would you trust them not to fuck you over again?

The MC is just entirely to willing to submit to the whims of everyone in that house,including the Maid,for some odd reason.

And Anne hunted him down,he didn't go looking for her.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

Well it feels wrong to call just her a bitch since i don't like a single character in the game so far even the MC the guy needs to man up big time the guy has zero back bone.

Hey now Charmane,and Honey are great. They just want dick.

 

[Darkhound]

To me personally,it's like this yea sure MC is getting something he wants.......from the Asshole who ruined his life in the first place.

And if someone fucks you over once,why on earth would you trust them not to fuck you over again?

The MC is just entirely to willing to submit to the whims of everyone in that house,including the Maid,for some odd reason.

And Anne hunted him down,he didn't go looking for her.

Good point. But this time she wants something from him so he has a little bit security... At least how I see that.

AS for MC himself. You talked about the system in the US. How do the ones there come out? Timid? Self deprecating? Fearfull to be not liked and thrown out? I am not from US. But I know how some abused cases come out here in germany.... And they have mentioned tendencys.

But! I am only discussing. I am not trying to change your view. Just showing mine, and even that one is purely on the hypothetical premise MC is trying to use the person that wants to use him. (From what we know through the game till now)

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

To me personally,it's like this yea sure MC is getting something he wants.......from the Asshole who ruined his life in the first place.

And if someone fucks you over once,why on earth would you trust them not to fuck you over again?

The MC is just entirely to willing to submit to the whims of everyone in that house,including the Maid,for some odd reason.

And Anne hunted him down,he didn't go looking for her.

yeah, the whole situation is shitty for the mc at the moment. Getting thrown out of the house, and then his only option is crushing in the house of the person who abandon him is not really what I would call ideal. And then summer.... she is sure making things more complicated.

Anne's definitely need to answer for a lot at the moment, but I don't think I have it in me to hate her as much as you, I'm just not that kind of person . And you are absolutely right, the mc can't fully trust her right now.

But at least the mc met some nice new people, and maybe he'll see he doesn't have to solely rely on a crazy horny rich lady or maybe he'll take the one that is willing to sleep with him .

 

[Darkhound]

yeah, the whole situation is shitty for the mc at the moment. Getting thrown out of the house, and then his only option is crushing in the house of the person who abandon his is not really what I would call ideal. And then summer.... she is sure making things more complicated.

Anne's definitely need to answer for a lot at the moment, but I don't think I have in me to hate her as much as you, I'm just that not kind of person . And you are absolutely right, the mc can't fully trust her right now.

But at least the mc met some nice new people, and maybe he'll see he doesn't have to solely rely on a crazy horny rich lady or maybe he'll take the one that is willing to sleep with him .

Haha nice and interesting thoughts you throw out there

For me bottom line is: don't focus only on the bad things

 

[The ArcKnight]

See, I try not to think about things too deeply but yeah, if Anne abandoned MC at the age of 5 to foster care when she could of easily taken care of him? Fuck her. Especially if she had a small child already (Summer). Most moms will tell you, if you have 1 already, 2 isnt that big a deal, I know this from experience.

I am more willing to forgive Anne then most so long as she shows she's actually repentant. MC should absolutely be weary of her and I think he has been but he also cant afford to squander his 1 chance at making something of himself. As Samara said, she and Gordon are literally stuck working dead-end jobs with no hopes of being able to afford college to get a better jobs so MC would be in the exact same boat. As anyone who's lived in poverty can tell you, sometimes you do got to swallow some pride to get what you need, Samara is right. Can't afford to fuck that up until he discovers his super powers.

Oooooh but then... Well, Anne better endear herself to MC because once MC has his powers, I can't see a logical reason why the fuck he'd want to stay around her. She's hot, sure, but he can now get hot women... Why stay with someone who abandoned you as a kid and a girl that won't stop treating you like your walking talking Satan?

Then again, I also kinda love the Tsundere archetype, but Summer has to actually show she has a softer side for me to deal with her bitchy attitude.

 

[Darkhound]

See, I try not to think about things too deeply but yeah, if Anne abandoned MC at the age of 5 to foster care when she could of easily taken care of him? Fuck her. Especially if she had a small child already (Summer). Most moms will tell you, if you have 1 already, 2 isnt that big a deal, I know this from experience.

I am more willing to forgive Anne then most so long as she shows she's actually repentant. MC should absolutely be weary of her and I think he has been but he also cant afford to squander his 1 chance at making something of himself. As Samara said, she and Gordon are literally stuck working dead-end jobs with no hopes of being able to afford college to get a better jobs so MC would be in the exact same boat. As anyone who's lived in poverty can tell you, sometimes you do got to swallow some pride to get what you need, Samara is right. Can't afford to fuck that up until he discovers his super powers.

Oooooh but then... Well, Anne better endear herself to MC because once MC has his powers, I can't see a logical reason why the fuck he'd want to stay around her. She's hot, sure, but he can now get hot women... Why stay with someone who abandoned you as a kid and a girl that won't stop treating you like your walking talking Satan?

Then again, I also kinda love the Tsundere archetype, but Summer has to actually show she has a softer side for me to deal with her bitchy attitude.

You raise some very good points.

I just want to suggest some thoughts, to everyone interested:

Anne has money and influence obviously, getting MC in that College seems not like an easy feat. Where does it come from?
Summer has an bitchy attitude, but why exactly is she bitchy towards the MC, besides the pervert-accusation? And why is she this bitchy towards her own mom too?
Anne says that its best not to talk about MC's mother, why is that? What could we guess from the way she deflects the question about his mother? What may or is Anne thinking?
Edit: What could be the reason why she abandoned the MC but not her own daughter?

Think about these things and just let me give you the info, that there are already hints in the game that could give way to some answers for these questions. Not all answers and certainly not for every question I suggested. But yeah, it could at least help in understanding or at least trying to understand some things better. But these hints are not that obvious to everyone, I think.

 

[gregers]

You raise some very good points.

I just want to suggest some thoughts, to everyone interested:

Anne has money and influence obviously, getting MC in that College seems not like an easy feat. Where does it come from?
Summer has an bitchy attitude, but why exactly is she bitchy towards the MC, besides the pervert-accusation? And why is she this bitchy towards her own mom too?
Anne says that its best not to talk about MC's mother, why is that? What could we guess from the way she deflects the question about his mother? What may or is Anne thinking?
Edit: What could be the reason why she abandoned the MC but not her own daughter?

Think about these things and just let me give you the info, that there are already hints in the game that could give way to some answers for these questions. Not all answers and certainly not for every question I suggested. But yeah, it could at least help in understanding or at least trying to understand some things better. But these hints are not that obvious to everyone, I think.

I think for those questions to be interesting, you have to be invested in the characters first.

 

[Darkhound]

I think for those questions to be interesting, you have to be invested in the characters first.

Well that is the thing. Everyone that has issues with Anne and Summer and how they are/act is in my eyes somehow interested in them. If they had no interest in these characters, even if it is just because of their looks, they wouldn't really complain about these things. Simple as that.

 

[The ArcKnight]

You raise some very good points.

I just want to suggest some thoughts, to everyone interested:

Anne has money and influence obviously, getting MC in that College seems not like an easy feat. Where does it come from?
Summer has an bitchy attitude, but why exactly is she bitchy towards the MC, besides the pervert-accusation? And why is she this bitchy towards her own mom too?
Anne says that its best not to talk about MC's mother, why is that? What could we guess from the way she deflects the question about his mother? What may or is Anne thinking?
Edit: What could be the reason why she abandoned the MC but not her own daughter?

Think about these things and just let me give you the info, that there are already hints in the game that could give way to some answers for these questions. Not all answers and certainly not for every question I suggested. But yeah, it could at least help in understanding or at least trying to understand some things better. But these hints are not that obvious to everyone, I think.

If it turns out Summer was molested or something by Anne's ex and thats why she is so fiercely independent and why summer hates men I will drop the game. I am sooooo sick of backstory sexual abuse. Especially to kids. Long Road Home pulled that shit and even showed it in the first cut til someone pointed out it was technically cp and dev took the actual scene out but left the rape in and I never dropped something so fast and so hard.

I really hope Mr. Knobb will go in a different direction then what I think you are alluding to.

 

[Darkhound]

If it turns out Summer was molested or something by Anne's ex and thats why she is so fiercely independent and why summer hates men I will drop the game. I am sooooo sick of backstory sexual abuse. Especially to kids. Long Road Home pulled that shit and even showed it in the first cut til someone pointed out it was technically cp and dev took the actual scene out but left the rape in and I never dropped something so fast and so hard.

I really hope Mr. Knobb will go in a different direction then what I think you are alluding to.

Honest to god, no! That is the absolute opposite direction of what I am alluding to. And there are absolute no hints towards that in the game. I can confidently say, you are absolutely wrong.