VN Ren'Py Alternate Existence [S2 v2.3.0] [MrKnobb]

[Darkhound]

Because if she really cared about him and wanted to make amends, she would try to make this transition for him as easy as possible. The whole "I'm so sorry I abandoned you! Please come live to my place where I will still not give a fuck about you or your feelings, but I'll buy you shit." isn't what someone who's trying to show remorse does.

When I have guests in my house I don't walk around in my boxers like I do when I'm alone. It's common sense/decency. She invited him there, he didn't show up unannounced to mess up with her lifestyle. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to think that the escort dude shouldn't run around the house butt naked. Even if it wasn't for the MC, she has a damn daughter who lives there!

But he said he'd be out! Yeah, sure. Because everything goes according to plans 100% of the time... No one ever returned home earlier or later that he was supposed to...

Oh? So you are an sexy MILF that lived many, many years only with one/two other women? So you know how such women behave after such an period of time? Wow!
Way to talk about common sense/decency in a game, you just forget something. And thats called force of habit. Please tell me that you can change an habit that you had for years at the drop of an hat. Make my day, yeah?
I didnt see people complain in other game-threads where similar things happened, when the hot landlady/roommates displayed similar behaviour after the MC moved in. Wonder why is that, any thoughts?

Oh and little shoutout to HansDampf788 I like your prolonged presence here. Oops, I forgot, don't feed the troll

 

[eddie987]

Oh? So you are an sexy MILF that lived many, many years only with one/two other women? So you know how such women behave after such an period of time? Wow!
Way to talk about common sense/decency in a game, you just forget something. And thats called force of habit. Please tell me that you can change an habit that you had for years at the drop of an hat. Make my day, yeah?
I didnt see people complain in other game-threads where similar things happened, when the hot landlady/roommates displayed similar behaviour after the MC moved in. Wonder why is that, any thoughts?

Oh and little shoutout to HansDampf788 I like your prolonged presence here. Oops, I forgot, don't feed the troll

Forgetting to tie your bathrobe or go for breakfast in your underwear can be attributed to force of habit, forgetting to not let the naked escort wave his slong all around the house when you have guests can not... I used the boxers thing as an example to show that people behave differently when they have guests around. She doesn't have to change her lifestyle, but she could at least be a little bit considerare if she actually cared for the MC, as some people insist she does.

You didn't see people complain in other threads, because those "habits" as you put it, usually involve a half naked woman, not a certain trope, most commonly associated with a niche fetish.

 

[Darkhound]

Forgetting to tie your bathrobe or go for breakfast in your underwear can be attributed to force of habit, forgetting to not let the naked escort wave his slong all around the house when you have guests can not... I used the boxers thing as an example to show that people behave differently when they have guests around. She doesn't have to change her lifestyle, but she could at least be a little bit considerare if she actually cared for the MC, as some people insist she does.

You didn't see people complain in other threads, because those "habits" as you put it, usually involve a half naked woman, not a certain trope, most commonly associated with a niche fetish.

Aaand... right here you are already beating a dead horse again. First, if you dont watch the scene you dont meet the BBC, simple as that. As far as the meeting part itself goes.
Anyway, how do you know that she was willing to let him run around naked? Did he ask her for permission? Do you know what she did while he was "waving around"? We already know she wanted the door closed, that guy didn't listen. Who is to say that he did walk around like that with her knowledge? Maybe she did not want it and he did it anyway, while she was bathing in her afterglow after being licked like that from the Fem-Escort? Or being at round two with that girl and not aware of her surroundings anymore, as the guy walks out naked?
Sorry for me there are too many unknown variables to see your accusation in that specific case as nothing more than speculation.
Or to make an character, you dont like anyway, out to be the bad guy, if all other arguments are already debated to death?

 

[LWtbo]

So seems your gonna make me defend her yet again Sigh ok.

So again at the risk of repeating myself where in the game do's it say or hint that Anne knew either the door was open or that pratty mc.big cock had snuck down stair's to get water wile naked and chat to the MC?.
Even blondie as much as say Anne was none the wiser on both counts.

Hate the woman by all means but atleast hate the woman for what she has done and not what she hasn't done.

Just Sayin.

 

[eddie987]

Aaand... right here you are already beating a dead horse again. First, if you dont watch the scene you dont meet the BBC, simple as that. As far as the meeting part itself goes.
Anyway, how do you know that she was willing to let him run around naked? Did he ask her for permission? Do you know what she did while he was "waving around"? We already know she wanted the door closed, that guy didn't listen. Who is to say that he did walk around like that with her knowledge? Maybe she did not want it and he did it anyway, while she was bathing in her afterglow after being licked like that from the Fem-Escort? Or being at round two with that girl and not aware of her surroundings anymore, as the guy walks out naked?
Sorry for me there are too many unknown variables to see your accusation in that specific case as nothing more than speculation.
Or to make an character, you dont like anyway, out to be the bad guy, if all other arguments are already debated to death?

Did you read the whole conversation or do you like to reply only to certain things out of context, just to push your agenda and make "funny" remarks?

People here were saying that Anne is actually a "good person" because she bought stuff for the MC and payed for his college. To that I say that throwing money to someone, doesn't make you a good person, neither shows that you care for them.

If she actually cared for the MC and wanted to make amends, she would actually give a fuck about what she's doing around him and how that might affect him. Let's take what you said about not knowing Dwayne was walking around naked as an example. If she cared for anything more than herself, she would have thought about that before she even invite him over, wouldn't she? She knows/bangs them for God knows how long, I don't think it was the first time for him to wander around like that.

Now, she can do whatever the fuck she wants and keep living her life like she did, it's her right to do so, but don't try to paint her as a likeable or misunderstood character who cares about the MC's well being. Not until she actually does something more than throwing money at him to feel better for herself.

The fact that you can now avoid seeing the escorts scene, doesn't negate that having them over in the first place shows that she gives zero fucks about the MC being in the house. The dev clearly put that scene in because he thought it would be "hot" and (like he said) people would like it, and nothing more. If it was so important for the story, she wouldn't have to cut them off at the end of ep2, when she suddenly "saw the light" and decided that she wants to put the MC's needs before hers. Yeah, right... I'm sure it had nothing to do with all the "love" Dwayne got.

If it was sooo important to show Anne in a threesome, because "reasons" without making her look like an inconsiderate cunt, you could have that scene take place at a hotel or at least behind locked doors and not force the MC have a conversation with a walking stereotype... Yeah, yeah, you can skip it now, but 1) I've already seen it before that was an option and 2) You don't really know what you're skipping unless you actually see it.

 

[RedPillBlues]

No Offence but if you didn't dislike Anne so much or the BBC scene would you even care.
First off it's her house and she's an old enough and ugly enough to do what she wants why would she even need to reschedule anything its none of his fucking business what she do's or with whom she do's it with in her house.

And he's only been there a short time so what if she go's out and gets drunk he's family not her f-kin boss.
you telling me no ones ever seem there aunty pissed before its bad judgment sure but not a hanging offence.
I Believe she apologises for that anyway.
And It seems it's only because she suspects the MC might snoop that she seems to decide to stop anyway.

Not to mention It was the MC that heard them and went looking in the first place his rooms not even upstairs.
as far as you can tell he's ground floor conner room facing the pool.

People keep going on about that scene like it's her fault first off the MC said he would be out of the house secondly she didn't open the door infact she asked for it to be closed it's the BBC's bright Idea to open the door and his equally bright Idea to come say high and yet she's to blame?.

Not to mention it's been said the MC suspects her of making him homeless well nope sorry to say as far as I tell he dosn't he never even thinks it he dosn't say it so where do's the Idea he possibly suspects it come from.

Please for the love of god If you gonna complain about Anne please stick to the ingame facts.
And maybe then I can stop defending the Bitch.
I don't really like her that much myself.

Just Sayin.

The fact that Mrknobb reacted with heart eyes to this is more then worrying. No wonder the threads in its current state

 

[Darkhound]

Did you read the whole conversation or do you like to reply only to certain things out of context, just to push your agenda and make "funny" remarks?

People here were saying that Anne is actually a "good person" because she bought stuff for the MC and payed for his college. To that I say that throwing money to someone, doesn't make you a good person, neither shows that you care for them.

If she actually cared for the MC and wanted to make amends, she would actually give a fuck about what she's doing around him and how that might affect him. Let's take what you said about not knowing Dwayne was walking around naked as an example. If she cared for anything more than herself, she would have thought about that before she even invite him over, wouldn't she? She knows/bangs them for God knows how long, I don't think it was the first time for him to wander around like that.

Now, she can do whatever the fuck she wants and keep living her life like she did, it's her right to do so, but don't try to paint her as a likeable or misunderstood character who cares about the MC's well being. Not until she actually does something more than throwing money at him to feel better for herself.

The fact that you can now avoid seeing the escorts scene, doesn't negate that having them over in the first place shows that she gives zero fucks about the MC being in the house. The dev clearly put that scene in because he thought it would be "hot" and (like he said) people would like it, and nothing more. If it was so important for the story, she wouldn't have to cut them off at the end of ep2, when she suddenly "saw the light" and decided that she wants to put the MC's needs before hers. Yeah, right... I'm sure it had nothing to do with all the "love" Dwayne got.

If it was sooo important to show Anne in a threesome, because "reasons" without making her look like an inconsiderate cunt, you could have that scene take place at a hotel or at least behind locked doors and not force the MC have a conversation with a walking stereotype... Yeah, yeah, you can skip it now, but 1) I've already seen it before that was an option and 2) You don't really know what you're skipping unless you actually see it.

Oh I did read the whole conversation, dont worry. You dont know my agenda obviously. And my "Funny" remarks are just that. You can freely ignore them if you dont like them.

Is or May, I think thats an difference. She MAY be a not a bad person, because you dont have enough information yet, just what you see until now. Honestly, why is someone instantly a "bad person" because he or she is going about it in the wrong way? You may view throwing money at someone not as being a good person or showing care. And hey, I even agree to that with you. Throwing money at someone doesnt make you a good person. But it doesnt label you as bad person either. There are people out there that really think, throwing money at someone is showing that you care for them. What you call common sense/decency applies not to all people out there right? And believe me, I know people that think you can solve everything as long as you throw enough money around.

I dont paint her as likeable for instance. I just point out things that people painting her as the absolute baddest woman around tend to ignore about her, that is in the game and freely accessible. If you want to paint this as me painting her as likeable, feel free to do so, its your opinion.

Actually, most people I see here actively commenting say they dont like her currently, but give her the benefit of doubt for the moment as the story progresses and we get more information. And will decide then if she is really a bad woman or not. If you see that as them painting her as "likeable", just because they want to keep an open mind, sorry, then I can't help you.

Eh... what are you talking about the end of EP-2? You really think that she "suddenly" decided to cut off her relations with the Escorts because of the reactions towards the threesome scene? Haha, that is a nice one. Sorry to dissapoint you, it was already planned out to cut the Escorts off at Episode 2 even before Episode 1 got released. Feel free to not believe me, but I am just stating an fact. It was never planned for them to have more "screentime" like in Ep.1 Or any more Screentime in Ep2 if not for:

Honestly if people didnt moan that badly about this godforsaken threesome, it would have only been mentioned in an talk with Summer or Honey, that she did cancel her arrangements with the Escorts. Because she didnt want the MC to find out. But yeah, thanks to people moaning about that threesome, like it was the end of the world, Knobb decided to make a visual scene about Anne cutting off the two, so they would not miss that information. Which backfired, because people felt offended again by seeing the two Escorts, especially our not so bright friend Dwayne again.

Which brings me to this

The fact that Mrknobb reacted with heart eyes to this is more then worrying. No wonder the threads in its current state

Amusing I liked that ones post too. Because he is not narrowsighted and looks at the facts.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Oh I did read the whole conversation, dont worry. You dont know my agenda obviously. And my "Funny" remarks are just that. You can freely ignore them if you dont like them.

Is or May, I think thats an difference. She MAY be a not a bad person, because you dont have enough information yet, just what you see until now. Honestly, why is someone instantly a "bad person" because he or she is going about it in the wrong way? You may view throwing money at someone not as being a good person or showing care. And hey, I even agree to that with you. Throwing money at someone doesnt make you a good person. But it doesnt label you as bad person either. There are people out there that really think, throwing money at someone is showing that you care for them. What you call common sense/decency applies not to all people out there right? And believe me, I know people that think you can solve everything as long as you throw enough money around.

I dont paint her as likeable for instance. I just point out things that people painting her as the absolute baddest woman around tend to ignore about her, that is in the game and freely accessible. If you want to paint this as me painting her as likeable, feel free to do so, its your opinion.

Actually, most people I see here actively commenting say they dont like her currently, but give her the benefit of doubt for the moment as the story progresses and we get more information. And will decide then if she is really a bad woman or not. If you see that as them painting her as "likeable", just because they want to keep an open mind, sorry, then I can't help you.

Eh... what are you talking about the end of EP-2? You really think that she "suddenly" decided to cut off her relations with the Escorts because of the reactions towards the threesome scene? Haha, that is a nice one. Sorry to dissapoint you, it was already planned out to cut the Escorts off at Episode 2 even before Episode 1 got released. Feel free to not believe me, but I am just stating an fact. It was never planned for them to have more "screentime" like in Ep.1 Or any more Screentime in Ep2 if not for:

Honestly if people didnt moan that badly about this godforsaken threesome, it would have only been mentioned in an talk with Summer or Honey, that she did cancel her arrangements with the Escorts. Because she didnt want the MC to find out. But yeah, thanks to people moaning about that threesome, like it was the end of the world, Knobb decided to make a visual scene about Anne cutting off the two, so they would not miss that information. Which backfired, because people felt offended again by seeing the two Escorts, especially our not so bright friend Dwayne again.

Which brings me to this

Amusing I liked that ones post too. Because he is not narrowsighted and looks at the facts.

I always find it odd when people bend the facts to fit their view on things.

First they didn't like the fact that a horny adult women, used her money and free time alone to call over some escort to help her get off.

Then they start saying she doesn't care about the new person in the house, because she didn't immediately change all the habits she had before letting a new person live in her house.

And then when she saw she had to start making changes to her daily life's, to accommodate said new person they say that "the dev is making on the spot changes to the plot" because apparently the answer "she is trying to be better" is not something people can accept.

I don't really feel like debating with them, as they just ignore the facts and start making up their own. If you want to hate her, at least do it for what she did. There is plenty of good reason to not like her, and you don't need to reach beyond the game to find it.

 

[eddie987]

Oh I did read the whole conversation, dont worry. You dont know my agenda obviously. And my "Funny" remarks are just that. You can freely ignore them if you dont like them.

Is or May, I think thats an difference. She MAY be a not a bad person, because you dont have enough information yet, just what you see until now. Honestly, why is someone instantly a "bad person" because he or she is going about it in the wrong way? You may view throwing money at someone not as being a good person or showing care. And hey, I even agree to that with you. Throwing money at someone doesnt make you a good person. But it doesnt label you as bad person either. There are people out there that really think, throwing money at someone is showing that you care for them. What you call common sense/decency applies not to all people out there right? And believe me, I know people that think you can solve everything as long as you throw enough money around.

I dont paint her as likeable for instance. I just point out things that people painting her as the absolute baddest woman around tend to ignore about her, that is in the game and freely accessible. If you want to paint this as me painting her as likeable, feel free to do so, its your opinion.

Actually, most people I see here actively commenting say they dont like her currently, but give her the benefit of doubt for the moment as the story progresses and we get more information. And will decide then if she is really a bad woman or not. If you see that as them painting her as "likeable", just because they want to keep an open mind, sorry, then I can't help you.

Eh... what are you talking about the end of EP-2? You really think that she "suddenly" decided to cut off her relations with the Escorts because of the reactions towards the threesome scene? Haha, that is a nice one. Sorry to dissapoint you, it was already planned out to cut the Escorts off at Episode 2 even before Episode 1 got released. Feel free to not believe me, but I am just stating an fact. It was never planned for them to have more "screentime" like in Ep.1 Or any more Screentime in Ep2 if not for:

Honestly if people didnt moan that badly about this godforsaken threesome, it would have only been mentioned in an talk with Summer or Honey, that she did cancel her arrangements with the Escorts. Because she didnt want the MC to find out. But yeah, thanks to people moaning about that threesome, like it was the end of the world, Knobb decided to make a visual scene about Anne cutting off the two, so they would not miss that information. Which backfired, because people felt offended again by seeing the two Escorts, especially our not so bright friend Dwayne again.

Which brings me to this

Amusing I liked that ones post too. Because he is not narrowsighted and looks at the facts.

Yeah, that's not how it works. Someone who abandons a 5 year old child to it's own fate, doesn't get the benefit of the doubt. Quite the opposite, they have to work twice as hard in order to earn that privilege, because they've already fucked up big time. People don't get a clean slate, just because they have big tits and a round ass. They need to show they deserve that second chance with actions. And no, throwing money to someone's face doesn't count, even if they need that money. That's a cop-out option. Instead of actually trying, you're doing the easiest thing you can to feel better for yourself.

Right now I don't know what she's going to do after one-two or ten updates. I'm not a fortune teller and I don't know the dev personally. When we get there I might change my mind. Until then I'll say things as I see them and so far Anne is someone using her money and power just so she can feel better for what she did in the past and even that come with strings attached. Zero selfless acts so far...

Also thinking that everything you do is flawless and anyone thinking otherwise is "narrowsighted" is a very narrow-sighted way to see things...

 

[Rocc46]

First they didn't like the fact that a horny adult women, used her money and free time alone to call over some escort to help her get off.

No they didn't, because they were forced to see it. She can do whatever she wants, but I don't see a reason why I should be forced to perv on her. That was what most people didn't like. Apparently it's changed now. And even now it's still weird that she does it.

Then they start saying she doesn't care about the new person in the house, because she didn't immediately change all the habits she had before letting a new person live in her house.

Habits? Habit is forgetting to put a toilet seat down when you start living with your gf. Habit is not inviting escorts to your house when other people are over. It's a common sense that you shouldn't do that when you have people over. And is even more weird when using your words "She's trying to be better". And even if it was habit, that's like if my habit was jerking off in the living room, I invite people over and keep doing it knowing they're around. I think they would expect to me to change that habit don't you think?

And then when she saw she had to start making changes to her daily life's, to accommodate said new person they say that "the dev is making on the spot changes to the plot" because apparently the answer "she is trying to be better" is not something people can accept.

"She's trying to be better" just isn't enough for a lot of people. Because of all the shit she did to mc and all the current stuff she does doesn't really show to me that she's trying to be that much better.

So it's actually you who is changing the facts and narrative to suit you...

 

[thegrindisreal]

Remember guys...dad screwing your mom is NTR.

 

[Darkhound]

Habits? Habit is forgetting to put a toilet seat down when you start living with your gf. Habit is not inviting escorts to your house when other people are over. It's a common sense that you shouldn't do that when you have people over. And is even more weird when using your words "She's trying to be better". And even if it was habit, that's like if my habit was jerking off in the living room, I invite people over and keep doing it knowing they're around. I think they would expect to me to change that habit don't you think?

"She's trying to be better" just isn't enough for a lot of people. Because of all the shit she did to mc and all the current stuff she does doesn't really show to me that she's trying to be that much better.

So it's actually you who is changing the facts and narrative to suit you...

Hm... the facts. That is an interesting thing. Yeah she had Escorts over, despite her having the MC now living there. But now there are other facts that are willingly ignored just to "fit" peoples common sense. For example the fact that MC is living on ground floor and has nothing to do on the first floor, where her own room is. Then the next fact, that Anne thought he would come back later, she took a chance, in her own fucking room. And then we have the fact that she wanted the door closed but pea-brain Dwayne did the opposite while Anne was distracted by the female Escort. Sure taking that into account is changing the facts.

It is not like she got it on with them in some open space but in her own room. Don't tell me, if you are living together with your GF/Wife and have people over long term, you stop having sex with your sweetheart? Or do you go out of your OWN house to have fun, just do accomodate said people? In my younger years I was visiting friends/couples all over my country short-term (about a week) and even then sometimes I stumbled over them getting it on or noticed it, accidently. Because some forget that their rooms/doors are not as soundproof as they believe or think their guests are asleep, one couple even forgot to close their door, granted, we had some drinks the evening before and I just noticed because I had the luck to get the urge to go to the toilet in the middle of the night.... Damn beer. Sure it was weird. But I did ignore it, because its their home and their life. So yeah, my common sense tells me, that people don't stop or flip around their habits just because there is a change in their life. Are you wrong now? Am I wrong? I tend to think that neither you or me are wrong. Common sense is like many other things subjective and not objective in my experience.

I agree with you "She is trying to be better" sure is not enough for a lot of people. Because of the severity of her mistakes. But yeah we are already that deep in the story that there is absolutely noooo way that she could redeem herself, so lets brand her as the eternal bad woman. That is the feeling I get seeing some posts here.

You don't like her currently? All good. You don't like what she does and how she acts, that is good too. But her story which we/you know almost nothing about yet, will not be changed. Some may forgive her over the course of the game/story, some wont, some will drop the game, simple as that. You can't please everyone after all. For the record, at the current point of the game I don't like her too, as I said already. And even knowing what will happen going forward I am not sure if I will forgive her or not. That depends entirely on the writer and her actions. But to me she made mistakes, some bad, some not so bad, that does not make her an evil person at her core.

 

[Deleted member 167032]

So... you're friends NTR'd your drunken ass

Hm... the facts. That is an interesting thing. Yeah she had Escorts over, despite her having the MC now living there. But now there are other facts that are willingly ignored just to "fit" peoples common sense. For example the fact that MC is living on ground floor and has nothing to do on the first floor, where her own room is. Then the next fact, that Anne thought he would come back later, she took a chance, in her own fucking room. And then we have the fact that she wanted the door closed but pea-brain Dwayne did the opposite while Anne was distracted by the female Escort. Sure taking that into account is changing the facts.

It is not like she got it on with them in some open space but in her own room. Don't tell me, if you are living together with your GF/Wife and have people over long term, you stop having sex with your sweetheart? Or do you go out of your OWN house to have fun, just do accomodate said people? In my younger years I was visiting friends/couples all over my country short-term (about a week) and even then sometimes I stumbled over them getting it on or noticed it, accidently. Because some forget that their rooms/doors are not as soundproof as they believe or think their guests are asleep, one couple even forgot to close their door, granted, we had some drinks the evening before and I just noticed because I had the luck to get the urge to go to the toilet in the middle of the night.... Damn beer. Sure it was weird. But I did ignore it, because its their home and their life. So yeah, my common sense tells me, that people don't stop or flip around their habits just because there is a change in their life. Are you wrong now? Am I wrong? I tend to think that neither you or me are wrong. Common sense is like many other things subjective and not objective in my experience.

I agree with you "She is trying to be better" sure is not enough for a lot of people. Because of the severity of her mistakes. But yeah we are already that deep in the story that there is absolutely noooo way that she could redeem herself, so lets brand her as the eternal bad woman. That is the feeling I get seeing some posts here.

You don't like her currently? All good. You don't like what she does and how she acts, that is good too. But her story which we/you know almost nothing about yet, will not be changed. Some may forgive her over the course of the game/story, some wont, some will drop the game, simple as that. You can't please everyone after all. For the record, at the current point of the game I don't like her too, as I said already. And even knowing what will happen going forward I am not sure if I will forgive her or not. That depends entirely on the writer and her actions. But to me she made mistakes, some bad, some not so bad, that does not make her an evil person at her core.

 

[Rocc46]

Hm... the facts. That is an interesting thing. Yeah she had Escorts over, despite her having the MC now living there. But now there are other facts that are willingly ignored just to "fit" peoples common sense. For example the fact that MC is living on ground floor and has nothing to do on the first floor, where her own room is. Then the next fact, that Anne thought he would come back later, she took a chance, in her own fucking room. And then we have the fact that she wanted the door closed but pea-brain Dwayne did the opposite while Anne was distracted by the female Escort. Sure taking that into account is changing the facts.

It is not like she got it on with them in some open space but in her own room. Don't tell me, if you are living together with your GF/Wife and have people over long term, you stop having sex with your sweetheart? Or do you go out of your OWN house to have fun, just do accomodate said people? In my younger years I was visiting friends/couples all over my country short-term (about a week) and even then sometimes I stumbled over them getting it on or noticed it, accidently. Because some forget that their rooms/doors are not as soundproof as they believe or think their guests are asleep, one couple even forgot to close their door, granted, we had some drinks the evening before and I just noticed because I had the luck to get the urge to go to the toilet in the middle of the night.... Damn beer. Sure it was weird. But I did ignore it, because its their home and their life. So yeah, my common sense tells me, that people don't stop or flip around their habits just because there is a change in their life. Are you wrong now? Am I wrong? I tend to think that neither you or me are wrong. Common sense is like many other things subjective and not objective in my experience.

I agree with you "She is trying to be better" sure is not enough for a lot of people. Because of the severity of her mistakes. But yeah we are already that deep in the story that there is absolutely noooo way that she could redeem herself, so lets brand her as the eternal bad woman. That is the feeling I get seeing some posts here.

You don't like her currently? All good. You don't like what she does and how she acts, that is good too. But her story which we/you know almost nothing about yet, will not be changed. Some may forgive her over the course of the game/story, some wont, some will drop the game, simple as that. You can't please everyone after all. For the record, at the current point of the game I don't like her too, as I said already. And even knowing what will happen going forward I am not sure if I will forgive her or not. That depends entirely on the writer and her actions. But to me she made mistakes, some bad, some not so bad, that does not make her an evil person at her core.

Having sex with your gf and inviting over escorts are two completely different things imo so this logic doesn't apply here.I wouldn't go out of my own house to have fun but I would also not invite hookers over when other people live in the house. And I would 100% not invite hookers over when I'm trying to make up to person I essentially fucked everything up with.

I'm not saying I'll hate her forever but right now there are 0 reason to like her and she's not really making anything better by doing stuff like this.

 

[gregers]

I'm not fussed about Anne's sex life (as long as we get a choice whether the MC is a creepy little shit about it or not) but do find it quietly hilarious that she's apparently been having sex workers over for threesomes every week while her daughter were growing up and it's only once the MC has come to stay she gets the realization that maybe that's not the most considerate behaviour. That's some parenting choice she's made there; no wonder Summer is a bit miffed.

 

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You are correct for sure, but I can see why Dark said what he said and still makes sense and i can see why you say what you say and also makes sense.
Anne had her reasons it's not always what everyone thinks it should be but it's her reasons. (or in this case the reasons I gave her as a character).

Let's see what transpires in upcoming Episodes. Season 1 has already been written out by myself, reasons and all. I may (as i have recently) edit some scenes/facts but will be fairly few.

Having sex with your gf and inviting over escorts are two completely different things imo so this logic doesn't apply here.I wouldn't go out of my own house to have fun but I would also not invite hookers over when other people live in the house. And I would 100% not invite hookers over when I'm trying to make up to person I essentially fucked everything up with.

I'm not saying I'll hate her forever but right now there are 0 reason to like her and she's not really making anything better by doing stuff like this.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

No they didn't, because they were forced to see it. She can do whatever she wants, but I don't see a reason why I should be forced to perv on her. That was what most people didn't like. Apparently it's changed now. And even now it's still weird that she does it.

Habits? Habit is forgetting to put a toilet seat down when you start living with your gf. Habit is not inviting escorts to your house when other people are over. It's a common sense that you shouldn't do that when you have people over. And is even more weird when using your words "She's trying to be better". And even if it was habit, that's like if my habit was jerking off in the living room, I invite people over and keep doing it knowing they're around. I think they would expect to me to change that habit don't you think?

"She's trying to be better" just isn't enough for a lot of people. Because of all the shit she did to mc and all the current stuff she does doesn't really show to me that she's trying to be that much better.

So it's actually you who is changing the facts and narrative to suit you...

honesty I used that just as 1 example, but part of the reason it's not fun to debate it anymore is because people ignore more and more facts.

You can say she isn't better, ok. But that doesn't equal "dev making on the spot changes to the plot", that's a fact people twist. It's early in the story, and with so much to attune for she can't do it in a week. Over time we'll see what her actions, and judge her.

You can say that she only focused on her career, but she only said that to Summer. And as people pointed out, she also said she'll make something up for Summer so she'll not suspect anything, but then people take what she said as a fact. And twisting the facts again. Right now we don't know why she abandon a 5 year old child, and you can hate her for that. But don't go using something that was said in game was going to be fake, as the reason to hate her.

So we could discuss theories as to why she actually had to leave and of course she still own the mc an explanation.

And as for the escorts/voyeur scenes, many people already pointed out the difference between the facts and made up facts. So I don't want to talk about it anymore. But if you don't like it because of the facts that are in the game or because you don't like that type of content, then that's that and you are free to do so.

Like I said, I don't like her at this moment. I'm simply more curious than angry. And many people did point out to actions/inactions that are already in the game for reasons to not like/hate her. And honestly, I've only seen one comment saying they want to open a fan club for her, the rest of us "defending her" are also saying that we simply don't hate her, it's not the same as liking her.

Anything beyond this, is just opinions from both sides.

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

honesty I used that just as 1 example, but part of the reason it's not fun to debate it anymore is because people ignore more and more facts.

You can say she isn't better, ok. But that doesn't equal "dev making on the spot changes to the plot", that's a fact people twist. It's early in the story, and with so much to attune for she can't do it in a week. Over time we'll see what her actions, and judge her.

You can say that she only focused on her career, but she only said that to Summer. And as people pointed out, she also said she'll make something up for Summer so she'll not suspect anything, but then people take what she said as a fact. And twisting the facts again. Right now we don't know why she abandon a 5 year old child, and you can hate her for that. But don't go using something that was said in game was going to be fake, as the reason to hate hate.

So we could discuss theories as to why she actually had to leave and of course she still own the mc an explanation.

And as for the escorts/voyeur scenes, many people already pointed out the difference between the facts and made up facts. So I don't want to talk about it anymore. But if you don't like it because of the facts that are in the game or because you don't like that type of content, then that's that and you are free to do so.

Like I said, I don't like her at this moment. I'm simply more curious than angry. And many people did point out to actions/inactions that are already in the game for reasons to not like/hate her. And honestly, I've only seen one comment saying they want to open a fan club for her, the rest of us "defending her" are also saying that we simply don't hate her, it's not the same as liking her.

Anything beyond this, is just opinions from both sides.

Yea there's plenty of reasons to dislike Anne. But the voyeur scenes,while REALLY not my cup of tea,aren't really a huge deal.

But as someone said earlier,I bet Summer has a real fucked up view of sex,after being raised by Anne.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Yea there's plenty of reasons to dislike Anne. But the voyeur scenes,while REALLY not my cup of tea,aren't really a huge deal.

But as someone said earlier,I bet Summer has a real fucked up view of sex,after being raised by Anne.

I'm not surprise her relationship with Summer is so shit at the moment, if she raised her like that? boy, that would really fuck with her. Honestly, the mc is not the only one that needs an apology at this point.

 

[xXwankerXx]

Because of all the shit she did to mc and all the current stuff she does doesn't really show to me that she's trying to be that much better.

Actually she does. Not only she pays for MC's expenses, but she also gives him the opportunity to live a better life, so he's kinda forced to believe her. It's clearly stated in the game that she was selfish, she chose her career and didn't want to raise her (MC's mom) son... she also mentioned that MANY have abandoned him, which also includes his mom and dad. If the Mom really is Anne's sister, and she's the reason why Anne's ex-husband abandoned her and Summer, just think about how one of you bois would react if your brother would run away with your wife and let you take care of his kid.

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I know ppl are upset about some aspects of the story, I also have my share of complaints to make, but we have to wait for a couple more updates to see how events unfold and hear Anne's side of the story and, if she still lives, MC's mom's version too.

As of yet, there's not enough information to say who's a cunt and who's not, we don't even know if Anne tried to find the MC after she put him in foster care, so it's premature to point fingers already. We can keep making speculations that further updates may prove to be ridiculous... take the Intertwined thread for example where the trolls can't comprehend that Erryn isn't a bitch, cunt, or an escort, but they keep shitposting when they could simply avoid the character if they don't like it or think she's not "pure" enough for their pee-pees. Be rational and don't follow their example.