Smart App Control on Windows 11 blocked this game for me. Other games work fine, and it was working earlier so it's a bit weird.
Njoiboi
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The problem is that the MC should never be able to read the thoughts of other characters in a VN unless he is a fucking mind controller/reader.
As a player, I don't want to know what anyone else is thinking, nor do I want the MC to think for me.
Things like that belong in a kinetic novel.
Everything about the MC should be revealed through his actions and what he sees and hears.
Not what happens somewhere behind a wall or what someone else is thinking.
I know that "mind reading" is the easiest way to shape and advance a story.
But as we can see, it has fatal consequences for the reader.
That's my opinion.
Because I don't think you understand what you've done to the players' minds with this scene.
Or you think you hope that they'll overlook what you were hoping to achieve with it.
For me, and from what I've read, for others too, the wife has become completely "useless".
I don't want anything more to do with her.
She flaunted her pussy and, with her actions and thoughts, turned herself into a whore.
(To put it simply, I can't think of the right word to describe her right now.
)You placed such a high value on marriage, constantly talking about how wonderful your marriage is and how much you love each other. Now there is a complete breach of trust on all levels that go beyond purely physical desire.
Especially when you don't let the player find out and he can't get rid of his anger.
That's what really pisses me off. Being the constant idiot of a loser husband who doesn't see what's going on behind his back.
IN EVERY FUCKUNG GAME!
Or when he finds out, the developer doesn't build in consequences that affect other characters, and all the consequences are always directed at the MC.
Therefore, I hope that what happened will be discussed, otherwise I no longer need the wife in the story and any interaction with her will only be a distracting. At least, that is the effect the scene has.
And as in a quality Oscar-worthy film, someone must occasionally be struck down, or as in Game of Thrones, someone must perish. You play an MM fighter, so I expect that I can also go off the rails. My wife thought it herself: if I find out, I'll kill my son. Then let me find out!
That would be a dramatic story. Ok, he doesn't have to die, but both of them should feel the anger.
Only through this release of emotions can the player find closure, I think.
Otherwise, I don't know how the wife could ever become trustworthy or attractive to me as a player again.
Unless everything is laid out on the table and all cards are revealed.
Sorry wall of text
Dessolos
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lol just don't tell jadepaladin how I still miss spell that character's name from the other game and now this one lmfaoAnother Peral?
Only part I really disagree with but I think this might be more of personal preference. As I am one that plays more for characters than story in most AVN's I play. So to that end I like hearing the inner thoughts of LI from time to time as it helps get into their headspace and how they feel about certain things etc etc. Which in turn will make me like or dislike a character more or be more forgiving / understanding of a character that might have done something wrong. Now I don't want to see it all the time either just when it makes sense or it's important.
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How do you stop/avoid/remove/turn off the son creeping on the women? Can you have MC bash him and kick him out?
Njoiboi
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I understand what you mean, and yes, sometimes that can be refreshing, absolutely.
However, it becomes problematic when you have thoughts like in this game, where the wife loses all her trust simply because of what she thinks. Because you've been on the same wavelength as the MC up to this point, and now you know things that the MC doesn't know. This leads to the MC continuing to talk about his great, faithful love. But from now on, you would actually like to make decisions that would make the MC play differently. From this point on, it starts to become problematic from a role-playing perspective, because as a developer, you basically can't use other people's thoughts for the MC. As a player, this means you have to continue playing the stupid and naive husband. Until the developer has had enough of teasing and emotional NTR.
OOHH yes, I said it. The evil NTR word.
Before the army marches off, listen carefully.
I was bored, so I described the ChatGPT situation on a literary level and asked if it was emotional NTR.
Conclusion:
Yes, you could interpret that as a form of emotional NTR — but in a very psychological sense. It’s not about a physical act of betrayal, but rather about the inner shift of attention and arousal. The wife’s excitement comes not only from her husband, but also from the son’s presence as a witness (sex act). That redirection of desire creates the seed of “emotional NTR.”
The key point is: it only fully develops into classic NTR if the husband eventually becomes aware of this shift, because then the feelings of loss, jealousy, or helplessness come into play.
And that's exactly how you feel as a player, because everything has already been resolved for you.
To the developer: Do you see the problem?
You say you don't do NTR in your games, but you do place emotional NTR.
Completely unknowingly, I don't hold it against you.
Your intentions were clear. I read your opinion on NTR.
I see that some of you are way more invested emotionally in this than I can ever imagine. To me it is a story that is presented to the player but reading your comments help me understand more the reactions behind some comments regarding this scene.I understand what you mean, and yes, sometimes that can be refreshing, absolutely.
However, it becomes problematic when you have thoughts like in this game, where the wife loses all her trust simply because of what she thinks. Because you've been on the same wavelength as the MC up to this point, and now you know things that the MC doesn't know. This leads to the MC continuing to talk about his great, faithful love. But from now on, you would actually like to make decisions that would make the MC play differently. From this point on, it starts to become problematic from a role-playing perspective, because as a developer, you basically can't use other people's thoughts for the MC. As a player, this means you have to continue playing the stupid and naive husband. Until the developer has had enough of teasing and emotional NTR.
OOHH yes, I said it. The evil NTR word.
Before the army marches off, listen carefully.
I was bored, so I described the ChatGPT situation on a literary level and asked if it was emotional NTR.
Conclusion:
Yes, you could interpret that as a form of emotional NTR — but in a very psychological sense. It’s not about a physical act of betrayal, but rather about the inner shift of attention and arousal. The wife’s excitement comes not only from her husband, but also from the son’s presence as a witness (sex act). That redirection of desire creates the seed of “emotional NTR.”
The key point is: it only fully develops into classic NTR if the husband eventually becomes aware of this shift, because then the feelings of loss, jealousy, or helplessness come into play.
And that's exactly how you feel as a player, because everything has already been resolved for you.
To the developer: Do you see the problem?
You say you don't do NTR in your games, but you do place emotional NTR.
Completely unknowingly, I don't hold it against you.
Your intentions were clear. I read your opinion on NTR.
The scene have already been modified in the version 0.0322 that have been release on Patreon last week, the scene is similar but I think you can ''live'' it differently now. Have fun.
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Apologies if we’re talking too much about your game, but it really shows how much we all love it. The characters (especially Pearl, who really caught my attention), the story, the animations, and renders are all top-tier, with even more to come. The inclusion of various fetish options is a great move, allowing everyone to enjoy it. I also respect how composed you stay, even with some of us constantly discussing the game(negatively) after the latest update—clearly, you're a professional developer. Kudos to you for handling it well, since other developers I've seen would have cracked under that kind of criticism.
But yeah, what Njoiboi said makes sense. Even though you’ve mentioned there won’t be any NTR, the latest update, no matter how you look at it, suggests something is brewing, and it’s left a bad taste for some players including me
.(Btw I'm open to all fetishes, but if it was established at the start. Stick with it.)
For me the asses are fine!
When you play the updated 0.0322 latest version, you will see some adjustment have been made and It will flow better.But yeah, what Njoiboi said makes sense. Even though you’ve mentioned there won’t be any NTR, the latest update, no matter how you look at it, suggests something is brewing, and it’s left a bad taste for some players including me
All other translations are done but I'm completing the French translation...there is SO MANY words in this game
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Njoiboi
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Yeah i guess, as a developer, it's easy to lose sight of the player's perspective when you're basically forced to read the same texts over and over again during the development phase until they eventually lose their meaning.
Ubisoft is the best example of how to block out virtually everything related to your own game.
The thing is, I played everything in one session, from the beginning to the current end.
When you “live” so many hours completely immersed in the game, even small story elements can trigger a lot.
Now, days later, I wouldn't look at it emotionally anymore.
Just like you, I now know the text, the story up to that point, and now it doesn't trigger anything when I think about it.
I would also see it more as an uncomfortable feeling I had at the end.
Which, by the way, isn't ideal. I think it's better to let the player leave the game with a good feeling so that they're hooked on the next update. Anticipation for what's to come instead of being angry about what happened.
But I guess you wanted to include a good cliffhanger with one last BAM in the face.
Just, .. that can also scare some players away.
In any case, it helped me to vent a little here right after the game session and get rid of my "emotional disagreement" with the content at the time. I'm really excited about the game again and looking forward to the next update.
It's too bad that this game got a plot that I'm not in favour of. The ladies in my opinion look much better than Timestamp, I'm just very sad
Dessolos
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haven't played the 2nd Timestamps yet but opposite for me I like the plot more in this one but at the same time I don't care for the LI in the other timeline at least yet.It's too bad that this game got a plot that I'm not in favour of. The ladies in my opinion look much better than Timestamp, I'm just very sad
Woodstock_1983
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I see other guys and was wondering if this game had NTR and if so, is it avoidable? They don't have the tag but some games don't have tags for every aspect of the games.
Woodstock_1983
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i want ALL the females to myself. It sounds like Birdie and Adam is going to make me mad and I'll just have knock them out so they leave the females alone lol.
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Woodstock_1983
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I was enjoying the game but there's Way too many guys besides the MC. I thought the MC would be the only guy to have the girls. Sorry, not for me. I only like to share with other females.
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From the notice of the mod
WARNING!
You could break your game modifying any variable. Use at your own risk!
Breaking the game depends on the game's programming. You could create set of values the game doesn't expect. Which for example could prevent you to progress in the game or miss certain scenes. I would recommend saving before modifying. So you could always go back if something unexpected happens.
I don't know why you would like to play with the love points, choose wisely instead