VN Ren'Py Completed AlwaysFan [v1.0] [AtemX Games]

[Kalsan]

Surprisingly solid game. Just one minor issue. Jaguar and Panther are technically the same animal so that quiz is automatically bullshit lmao

Not entirely all jaguars are panthers but not all panthers are jaguars. If you are referring to the classic black panther you can be referring to 2 different animals black variations, the jaguar and the leopard.

panther-vs-jaguar.jpg sure if you consider that there is a major size difference (1 is tops 130 pounds where the other can get up to 200+ pounds and than not even to talk about the height), both live on a entire different continent ,and there colours are way off sure it's your party to believe that they are 1 and the same

You are comparing the black variation of a leopard with a jaguar it is not the same. What the dude said is partially right.

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Currently the option to start the "sharing" path, be it the nice one, the whore one or the really dark variants hinges on one decision, how you answer Roberts´s early message.
But this option gets bricked if you do not chose the douche and as... options until that point (later you can take nice and love options on the light sharing path). And here is the problem I have. The MC might not have deep feelings at game start for Emilie, but some decent choices should not lock off such a decision. Even a neutral or positive thinking MC should be able to choose sharing or not.

For me is even more simple. I don't think a man really loves a woman if he share her. So no been able to access sharing in the love route is the most obvious and natural thing.

 

[Turret]

For me is even more simple. I don't think a man really loves a woman if he share her. So no been able to access sharing in the love route is the most obvious and natural thing.

As I said, that is not the problem here. My point is that the sharing paths can only be reached/started playing one specific way. And that is it what I see as problematic. Even if you are indifferent to a person or have basic sympathy for a former schoolmate, you are able to choose decent options which should not cancel out pragmatic options.
That a MC who is already fully in love with Emilie does not want to share her is absolutely right. But as I argue, if the MC takes Emilie in because of some basic sympathy nothing more at that point, the game forces you to choose more douche options than necessary to reach the sharing path starting point.

 

[Uthuriel]

For me is even more simple. I don't think a man really loves a woman if he share her. So no been able to access sharing in the love route is the most obvious and natural thing.

It goes even beyond that... a person can't share a person to begin with. People aren't objects. If I ask you to borrow me a pencil and you share it with me than yes of course why not. But a human being? Just no.
And before anybody cries... yes I know this is a video game on a porn pirate site...

 

[Fiz1247]

As others have pointed I would like if the MC is not a douche rapist in the netorase route.

 

[JoeBlack132]

does the developer plan to include anal sex in the game?

 

[Broggert]

I find it strange that other male NPC's don't really seem to have an interest in Emilie at all during the love route. Aside from the kidnapping thing, there should probably be a love-ntr route that happens if you're -not- fucking her the vast majority of the time when you go to bed together.

 

[Kassan06969]

If she was real I would let Emilie do anything she wanted to me. Includes like being tied up. She is hot AF.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

what are you people coming from asking shit like this for the love route?
the love route is THE LOVE ROUTE a seperate route.
it's no ntr so why should we be seeing npcs show interest in our girl?

if you want that play the swinging,sharing route bud.

I think the NTR fans are taking it out on us vanilla peeps. Too long have our kind gone into the NTR threads asking, demanding, begging and whining for vanilla routes. They're getting us back by doing the exact same thing here.
Nice to see though, I'll have to remember it for the next time I see some NTR fans complaining about vanilla fans always demanding games be changed for them.


How about y'all just accept the fact that the dev has indicated quite a few times that the vanilla players shouldn't have to sit there dodging NTR triggers the whole game. Or how they've indicated that they aren't looking at doing hard NTR? Instead y'all just want to whine and bitch for the dev to bend over backwards to accommodate your fetishes.
boy that was fun, can see why they're always doing it.

 

[AtemX]

I see that you all had a nice long debate about whether or not there should be NTR in the love route and I'm glad that my game makes you react so much. As my previous messages must have been lost in the mass I'm going to redo one here in order to set things straight and make my point of view well known to all.

As many have pointed out, there will NEVER be NTR on the love path for two main reasons: Firstly because I don't want people looking for a sweet love story to have to dodge choices that would lead them to situations they didn't want but also because of the personality of the MC and Emilie. If you have started the love path, it means that you have made mostly kind and tender choices towards Emilie, that you care about her and want her to be happy. Moreover the MC is rather a dominant personality, and this even in love road, it would be incoherent at this moment to share her. As for Emilie, I saw a comment about her being able to cheat on the MC if he doesn't satisfy her often enough at night, her personality prevents that. The MC is everything to her, she has developed an obsession with him for years and even more so since she started living with him. It would never occur to her to cheat on him in this path.

As for the sharing route, which some say is too cruel in the beginning, as some have pointed out it's more pimping than sharing in the beginning. The MC is not in love with her if he makes this choice and sees her more as a way to solve his problems, so being gentle and kind to her would be inconsistent at this point. That's why I made the choice that it starts out rough but then the MC can develop feelings for her and decide to take care of her (if he wants, but if he don't, well... it can end badly for both of them), or even stop sharing her.

When I wrote the story of this game I tried to make something that would please as many people as possible by leaving as many options open and offering a nice variety of kinks/fetishes, but I'm working alone on this project and I can't create 10 different paths either. I also know that many people dodge my game because they see certain fetishes that repel them, even if they are dodgeable and it's unfortunate but I can't do much about it, if people don't read my dev notes I guess they are not made to play games where the majority of the gameplay is reading...

Well, I hope I answered all your questions and I'm going back to work on the next episode!

 

[AmayaSama]

I see that you all had a nice long debate about whether or not there should be NTR in the love route and I'm glad that my game makes you react so much. As my previous messages must have been lost in the mass I'm going to redo one here in order to set things straight and make my point of view well known to all.

As many have pointed out, there will NEVER be NTR on the love path for two main reasons: Firstly because I don't want people looking for a sweet love story to have to dodge choices that would lead them to situations they didn't want but also because of the personality of the MC and Emilie. If you have started the love path, it means that you have made mostly kind and tender choices towards Emilie, that you care about her and want her to be happy. Moreover the MC is rather a dominant personality, and this even in love road, it would be incoherent at this moment to share her. As for Emilie, I saw a comment about her being able to cheat on the MC if he doesn't satisfy her often enough at night, her personality prevents that. The MC is everything to her, she has developed an obsession with him for years and even more so since she started living with him. It would never occur to her to cheat on him in this path.

As for the sharing route, which some say is too cruel in the beginning, as some have pointed out it's more pimping than sharing in the beginning. The MC is not in love with her if he makes this choice and sees her more as a way to solve his problems, so being gentle and kind to her would be inconsistent at this point. That's why I made the choice that it starts out rough but then the MC can develop feelings for her and decide to take care of her (if he wants, but if he don't, well... it can end badly for both of them), or even stop sharing her.

When I wrote the story of this game I tried to make something that would please as many people as possible by leaving as many options open and offering a nice variety of kinks/fetishes, but I'm working alone on this project and I can't create 10 different paths either. I also know that many people dodge my game because they see certain fetishes that repel them, even if they are dodgeable and it's unfortunate but I can't do much about it, if people don't read my dev notes I guess they are not made to play games where the majority of the gameplay is reading...

Well, I hope I answered all your questions and I'm going back to work on the next episode!

NTR in the love patch, ok, no need. But a sharing with the two agreeing characters would be possible or an exchange of couple as at the beginning of the game, but more "consenting" version. There may be, even for other ideas, a "love" version with common agreement and another different harder version. Something like that. I say it like that
As long as in the end, you're happy with the result, keep it up, what you're doing is great

 

[Simulacrum29]

NTR in the love patch, ok, no need. But a sharing with the two agreeing characters would be possible or an exchange of couple as at the beginning of the game, but more "consenting" version. There may be, even for other ideas, a "love" version with common agreement and another different harder version. Something like that. I say it like that
As long as in the end, you're happy with the result, keep it up, what you're doing is great

are you just so dense or are you unable to read? Maybe get someone else to look over that post, you quoted, again so he can explain it to you like you are five.

 

[AmayaSama]

are you just so dense or are you unable to read? Maybe get someone else to look over that post, you quoted, again so he can explain it to you like you are five.

What are you talking about? My English is bad, but enough to express myself xD lmao

 

[Rintal]

Is this a game about exorcism?

 

[Simulacrum29]

What are you talking about? My English is bad, but enough to express myself xD lmao

It has nothing to do with your English, but with our ability to absorb new information, it seems. The Dev themself explained why sharing or other NTR filth will not be part of the Love Route and why the Sharing Path is starting the way it is. If you don't like it, maybe stop playing?

 

[Raziel_8]

NTR in the love patch, ok, no need. But a sharing with the two agreeing characters would be possible or an exchange of couple as at the beginning of the game, but more "consenting" version. There may be, even for other ideas, a "love" version with common agreement and another different harder version. Something like that. I say it like that
As long as in the end, you're happy with the result, keep it up, what you're doing is great

The dev answered why there wont be any sharing in the love path, what is there so hard to understand about ?

-The MC loves Emilie and don't want to share her
-Emilie is obsessed with the MC and has absolutely no interest in others
-early sharing is pimping out Emilie, so a nice and caring MC makes no sense

Emilie has no interest in other men, she doesn't want to fuck others and that's why the only way to get sharing content is being an asshole and taking advantage of her.

 

[hysepReC]

Next time i see people claiming ntr haters are the only ones that try to pressure devs, i'm going to link them to this thread so they can see that ntr fans are just as bad lmao.

 

[Turret]

As for the sharing route, which some say is too cruel in the beginning, as some have pointed out it's more pimping than sharing in the beginning. The MC is not in love with her if he makes this choice and sees her more as a way to solve his problems, so being gentle and kind to her would be inconsistent at this point. That's why I made the choice that it starts out rough but then the MC can develop feelings for her and decide to take care of her (if he wants, but if he don't, well... it can end badly for both of them), or even stop sharing her.

I see where you are coming from and as I mentioned in an earlier post, I like the Love routes. But I have to disagree on this take on for the sharing route. Yes, there are full a... treating others like dirt if it helps them gaining their goals, but these are not all people.
I can have zero feelings for a person and strict worklike relationship with them, but that does not hinder me from treating them decent and not being a total douche! And that is my point here. To reach the sharing/not-sharing choice you have to treat Emilie consistently absolute shabby and this wrong. As said, there are enough people in the world who can give some basic decency even to people they care nothing about! The players should be able to get to the sharing choice even if they made a couple of decent choices earlier.

The dev answered why there wont be any sharing in the love path, what is there so hard to understand about ?

Pardon me, but what is so hard to understand about my point? I do not want changes to the love routes, but you are forced to do choices to reach the sharing event choice, which are extremly one-sided and not logical for many. So I argue that the sharing choice is not bricked by having done a couple decent choices before! And the full "vanilla" players can still have only the choice to not accept. But some basic kindness choices should not completely negate the sharing choice, because that is not how it works in life!

 

[Kassan06969]

 

[Simulacrum29]

but you are forced to do choices to reach the Love event choice

???

 

[Turret]

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The only one willingly missing the whole point is you! What is so difficult to understand for you? I have no problems with the love routes, they can stay exactly as they are.

Once more for the daft ones here: At the beginning of the game we have a lot of choices before we get the message from Robert. If you are on the love route and made only good and nice choices, you can only deny his request. Nice and correctly so!
But to reach the Robert message to get on the sharing route you have to practically always choose the bad and brutal options, "because you do not have feelings for Emilie and use her to solve your problems" Yes, there are assholes like that out there, too many who are predators.
But you can have no feelings whatsoever for a person and just worklike relations with her/him and still treat them with basic decency! There are several decent choices in the early game which have nothing to do with feelings, but basic decency and kindness. Choosng these options should not deny the option to the sharing route. You could deny Robert, but you should not be forced to unless you are on the love routes.

Hope this clears it up a bit for those blabbing about dodging "NTR" choices, that is simply not needed.