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rmatty111

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The games themselves, 'Amity Park' and 'Breeding Farm' are, for lack of a better term, 'dead' unless G-Zone returns...
But 'spirtual successors' are very much on the cards still, and I have the same team backing me.

I can't say more than that at this time.
very excited to have you at the helm, PB is top tier and looking forward to your work on a "spiritual successor" if you go down that route
 
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Mrzb2

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The games themselves, 'Amity Park' and 'Breeding Farm' are, for lack of a better term, 'dead' unless G-Zone returns...
But 'spirtual successors' are very much on the cards still, and I have the same team backing me.

I can't say more than that at this time.
Hope one of the spiritual successors is a Danny phantom baby making game, all them girls and ghost girls need 45 billion little Danny phantoms running around

That aside , wish the best for you and the rest of the team in whatever endeavors you guys pursue .
 
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mare222

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Hope one of the spiritual successors is a Danny phantom baby making game, all them girls and ghost girls need 45 billion little Danny phantoms running around

That aside , wish the best for you and the rest of the team in whatever endeavors you guys pursue .
hopefully in the same art style as danny phantom too
 

TheDevian

Svengali Productions
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Mar 8, 2018
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Hope one of the spiritual successors is a Danny phantom baby making game, all them girls and ghost girls need 45 billion little Danny phantoms running around

That aside , wish the best for you and the rest of the team in whatever endeavors you guys pursue .
That is getting harder to do with the new rules from Patreon.
 

Mrzb2

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Aug 20, 2021
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That is getting harder to do with the new rules from Patreon.
Yea, but I assume as long as they don't show the kids, and just give a text saying "hey I just birthed a ectoplasm baby" it should get around it . Or is even a mention of it grounds for ban?
 

KingAgamemnon

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Yea, but I assume as long as they don't show the kids, and just give a text saying "hey I just birthed a ectoplasm baby" it should get around it . Or is even a mention of it grounds for ban?
Did I miss something? Babies are banned from Patreon?
 

beldr

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Aug 8, 2017
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Corrupted Kingdoms had to pull out of Patreon because there was an underage character in the game. It was not even a character you can lewd but from the mere fact that they existed.
This is part of the message the devs put out on subscribestar after Patreon went down:

So, for those of you who didn't know, Patreon has shut down my page and with it 90% of my income.

"But why?" I hear you ask, through the microphones I've secretly placed in your home. Is it because I violated the law, or engaged in depraved acts beyond all ethical boundaries? Did I push the limits of human decency too far? What vile and disgusting act could I have possibly committed that justifies having my game and my income destroyed?

I put Alice in the game.

Yes, that's it. Alice exists. Patreon's new policy is, and I quote: "We do not allow the presence of underage characters in Adult/18+ content." Which means no Alice, no Lil' Roxy and those kids of yours? Definitely not. The fact that none of them are sexualized in any way is irrelevant. They exist, therefore the game is no longer allowed on Patreon.
 

TGafy

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This discussion has me wondering what if it's an unbirthed character. A woman is pregnant throughout the entire story, from start to finish. Will Patreon allow that?
 

Chikabowhow

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It's a shame what happened, but I'm happy it's not completely over yet. I would gladly welcome a spiritual successor to this. Though I'm guessing no one had contact with Gzone IRL? The fact that he vanished like that is weird, which paints quite a morbid possibility
 
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Epoch3000

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It won't be these games due to the legal fucker-y surrounding commissions.
It'll be a spirtual successor.

Assuming I take command fully, I'll get to work asap with a clear plan for everyone.
But things are still hazy right now - But if I do take over, I can't forsee a scenario where I didn't get something out.
What legal fucker-y?

Are you referring to Gzone not paying employees while he or she continued to take in subscriptions?

The only thing relating to a legal issue would be if the copyright / trademark holder of the IP (Nickelodeon) chose to go the route of a cease and desist or worse. That being said, someone (Gzone) would have a very tough time saying they and they alone own AP, when AP is based entirely on someone else's copyrighted or trademarked intellectual property. Art is more of a grey area: you could charge for the time spent to make art of something, but if you have no ownership of the trademark or copyright, that too could could be taken from you and you in turn charged by the IP holder.

Sure, you could be nice about it and ask to take over AP and everything involved with it, to continue the game in the event that Gzone does return. But with anything less than a very clear, logical, non-bullshit reason of ghosting their employees, coworkers, and customers; I'm willing to bet a majority of posters on this forum would vote on Gzone not being involved especially after what occurred.

By your posting on this forum and being upfront with customers on a level that Gzone never has been, you (in my opinion) should have a long discussion with everyone involved (you stated as much already) and force the takeover of AP and not allow Gzone to be involved in any form whatsoever.

It's possible to create a timeline of updates and releases of the other game side by side with AP, and It's interesting how said updates for breeding farm coincided with less updates for AP as well as less conversation from Gzone regarding AP. Clearly, Gzone has shown they lack the ability to manage multiple projects, or even 1 project over a period of time.
 
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mare222

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Jan 24, 2018
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It's a shame what happened, but I'm happy it's not completely over yet. I would gladly welcome a spiritual successor to this. Though I'm guessing no one had contact with Gzone IRL? The fact that he vanished like that is weird, which paints quite a morbid possibility
he probably took the patreon money and left
 

errte13

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Oct 6, 2020
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he probably took the patreon money and left
That would be the dumbest course of action to take IMO. He has two games going on, he'd make much more money by staying and overseeing said games than running away with whatever money patreon had. I don't think that money is enough to cover your whole life if you retire now.
 

Chikabowhow

Member
Oct 13, 2019
122
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he probably took the patreon money and left
I mean... It's not impossible, but it's kinda weird. I feel like he would have a better profit if it he continued working on the game. It's the fact that the rest of the development team had no issues with him that makes it weird because if he was a bad boss, I would have no problem believing he just left with the money
 

lostraven

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What legal fucker-y?

Are you referring to Gzone not paying employees while he or she continued to take in subscriptions?

The only thing relating to a legal issue would be if the copyright / trademark holder of the IP (Nickelodeon) chose to go the route of a cease and desist or worse. That being said, someone (Gzone) would have a very tough time saying they and they alone own AP, when AP is based entirely on someone else's copyrighted or trademarked intellectual property. Art is more of a grey area: you could charge for the time spent to make art of something, but if you have no ownership of the trademark or copyright, that too could could be taken from you and you in turn charged by the IP holder.

Sure, you could be nice about it and ask to take over AP and everything involved with it, to continue the game in the event that Gzone does return. But with anything less than a very clear, logical, non-bullshit reason of ghosting their employees, coworkers, and customers; I'm willing to bet a majority of posters on this forum would vote on Gzone not being involved especially after what occurred.

By your posting on this forum and being upfront with customers on a level that Gzone never has been, you (in my opinion) should have a long discussion with everyone involved (you stated as much already) and force the takeover of AP and not allow Gzone to be involved in any form whatsoever.

It's possible to create a timeline of updates and releases of the other game side by side with AP, and It's interesting how said updates for breeding farm coincided with less updates for AP as well as less conversation from Gzone regarding AP. Clearly, Gzone has shown they lack the ability to manage multiple projects, or even 1 project over a period of time.
The legal fucker-y refers to the legality around commissioned art, even parody based work stuff like Amity Park.
In short, while he may not own the right to Danny Phantom as an IP, he does own the right to the artworks he's paid commissions in and should he return in X amount of months to find us using his commissioned artwork, it becomes a murky grey which opens the door to legal action.

Not to mention Breeding Farm being a totally original IP, it would cut and dry should we use his commissioned assets and he provides invoices, receipts and texts of verbal agreements (which do have some legal standing in themselves).

However...

He doesn't own the IP of Danny Phantom, thus, we're allowed to make our own parody legally speaking with our own commissioned art.
He also doesn't own the generic idea of a 'monster breeding sim' - So, while we can't use the characters, all in spirit we could make one.

There are more discussions to be had amongst the team and I do have a plan to someone salvage the mess left for me to pick up in a way I feel, while not perfect, will at least be the most pragmatic and best course of action... Can't say more than that for now.

Things are in motion and circumstances/things are changing *very* quickly.
 

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The legal fucker-y refers to the legality around commissioned art, even parody based work stuff like Amity Park.
In short, while he may not own the right to Danny Phantom as an IP, he does own the right to the artworks he's paid commissions in and should he return in X amount of months to find us using his commissioned artwork, it becomes a murky grey which opens the door to legal action.

Not to mention Breeding Farm being a totally original IP, it would cut and dry should we use his commissioned assets and he provides invoices, receipts and texts of verbal agreements (which do have some legal standing in themselves).

However...

He doesn't own the IP of Danny Phantom, thus, we're allowed to make our own parody legally speaking with our own commissioned art.
He also doesn't own the generic idea of a 'monster breeding sim' - So, while we can't use the characters, all in spirit we could make one.

There are more discussions to be had amongst the team and I do have a plan to someone salvage the mess left for me to pick up in a way I feel, while not perfect, will at least be the most pragmatic and best course of action... Can't say more than that for now.

Things are in motion and circumstances/things are changing *very* quickly.
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errte13

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Oct 6, 2020
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Best outcome is Gzone coming back and have a talk with the team before deadline, pay them their due and continue the original games as is. Worst scenario is Gzone is gone, 2 new games need to be made as spiritual successor to AP and BF respectively. Got it.

In the meantime, what will the team be doing? Setting up the spiritual successor games?
 
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lordtoto

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The legal fucker-y refers to the legality around commissioned art, even parody based work stuff like Amity Park.
In short, while he may not own the right to Danny Phantom as an IP, he does own the right to the artworks he's paid commissions in and should he return in X amount of months to find us using his commissioned artwork, it becomes a murky grey which opens the door to legal action.

Not to mention Breeding Farm being a totally original IP, it would cut and dry should we use his commissioned assets and he provides invoices, receipts and texts of verbal agreements (which do have some legal standing in themselves).

However...

He doesn't own the IP of Danny Phantom, thus, we're allowed to make our own parody legally speaking with our own commissioned art.
He also doesn't own the generic idea of a 'monster breeding sim' - So, while we can't use the characters, all in spirit we could make one.

There are more discussions to be had amongst the team and I do have a plan to someone salvage the mess left for me to pick up in a way I feel, while not perfect, will at least be the most pragmatic and best course of action... Can't say more than that for now.

Things are in motion and circumstances/things are changing *very* quickly.
You're doing an excellent work with parasite black.
I have total trust with the next danny phantom project of yours, just don't forget how much the ghost girls are popular! :)
Now we are waiting for the SubscribeStar page. (y)
 
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