SISIMEN

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Jun 9, 2017
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Some hot tips for improvements:

1: No one likes to run around with out a plan, and just trying stuff over and over to get a different reaction.
Try and perhaps set a "!" on people that have some new dialog, or that will move the story forward. This goes for both the room pictures, and the characters them self.
Same with the search function.

2: If its going to be a pixel hunter game, the same thing applies there. Set a "!" above items that you can click, or you need to click to move the story. Cos otherwise its EXTREMELY annoying having to scan every environment for objects that might be clickable.
An alternative to this, if you dont want them to be super obvious, is a really helpfull hint system with a hint to where to find an item. Like for example: I should probably find out what Chloe have been texting about, she normally keeps her phone on her all the time tho. Maybe i can steal it when she is in the shower?
Or another one: I shouldnt search trough Chloes room when she is around, I need to find a time of the day when she is bussy,. Perhaps i can search her room when she is in the shower?
Or something like that!

3: Do not advance time, for interactions with people that dont do anything!
Trying to find out what to do, and every time you try to talk to someone, you get a none answer, and a movement of time. Is really annoying. This in combination with point 4, is really a nightmare for sandbox games tbh.

4: Enable rollback! Easy as that, without it, especially sandbox games are just super annoying.

5: The 2 talk/search buttons are up in the corner, it would be better if after clicking a character, at least the talk button ended up in the middle of the screen. This is a minor one, but it makes navigating the game a lot easier.
Using a lot of screen real estate on the sides for buttons is good for visuals, but it can be really annoying to navigate.
There is a reason why many games try and bring your dialog buttons, to the center of the screen.

6: A walkthrough, or a really good in game hint system. (This ties in to point 2. Cos it needs to be easy, if you dont want to go down the "!" route)
The important part of a good hint system in game tho, is that it needs to be easy and quick to navigate. No more than 3 preferably 2 clicks to see the hints.
A lot of games fail at this and have great hint systems, but you need to do 5-7 clicks on your phone to get to them.
Like for example: Mobile phone - Hint app - Girls - Quests - Chloe. And then you need to hit back in the bottom corner to click on the next girl. This is no bueno!
Best is to have a separate icon for hints, (thats on the main screen) and then just pictures of all the girls as icons on a screen, and you click one to get a hint.

7: You write, that there is going to be a lot of incest. Just dont forget about Patreon TOS. You need to have a patch or some system for the game, so its not incest enabled for patreon downloads. Or you WILL have issues, sooner or later!



The cardinal sin of sandbox games, is grind, and trying to stretch content. By making stuff hard to play, or having people guessing where to go, what to do and such.

I honestly only played your game for 10min, not cos dialogs where bad, not cos story or renders where bad.
It was 100% the way the sandbox was built!
I cant comment on the game it self really, but these things needs to be better, for people to actually want to find out.
Not trying to be mean, cos i understand you put a lot of effort down, and its a first release. But these things are HUGELY important for the success of a sandbox game.


Good luck!
Ditto :sneaky:
 

Culain

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Jan 23, 2018
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Is there any way to get at least a start?
I don`t just see something else beside talking to other characters, which do - NOT - have any effect.
It means to be a hotel management, but without being able to - DO - the management, this is just worth to be trashed quickly.

Just my 2 cents...
 
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SISIMEN

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So, I'm going to elaborate on my post. I concur with most of what was written by z2Lid and as a result I am not going to rate this game just yet. I will reserve judgement until there has been more work done and see if the developer takes the constructive criticism to task. If there are improvements, in particular to the hint system and rollback (very important if time passes for each and every interaction regardless of outcome), then I will give it another go and see about giving it a (y) or (n)

As it is now, it feels too much like a restaurant test without a menu and no wait staff to assist...
 

Kubrows

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Aug 10, 2017
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damnit.
I hate these kind of games, I mean it's great that it's different and new but the grinding part is so damn annoying. can't even fap due to holding down ctrl to skip the daily grind crap among the clicking.
I usually just wait until the game is more developed.. then it's randomly abandoned and I forget about the game ever happening
 
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Baxonius

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Nov 23, 2018
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Some hot tips for improvements:

1: No one likes to run around with out a plan, and just trying stuff over and over to get a different reaction.
Try and perhaps set a "!" on people that have some new dialog, or that will move the story forward. This goes for both the room pictures, and the characters them self.
Same with the search function.

2: If its going to be a pixel hunter game, the same thing applies there. Set a "!" above items that you can click, or you need to click to move the story. Cos otherwise its EXTREMELY annoying having to scan every environment for objects that might be clickable.
An alternative to this, if you dont want them to be super obvious, is a really helpfull hint system with a hint to where to find an item. Like for example: I should probably find out what Chloe have been texting about, she normally keeps her phone on her all the time tho. Maybe i can steal it when she is in the shower?
Or another one: I shouldnt search trough Chloes room when she is around, I need to find a time of the day when she is bussy,. Perhaps i can search her room when she is in the shower?
Or something like that!

3: Do not advance time, for interactions with people that dont do anything!
Trying to find out what to do, and every time you try to talk to someone, you get a none answer, and a movement of time. Is really annoying. This in combination with point 4, is really a nightmare for sandbox games tbh.

4: Enable rollback! Easy as that, without it, especially sandbox games are just super annoying.

5: The 2 talk/search buttons are up in the corner, it would be better if after clicking a character, at least the talk button ended up in the middle of the screen. This is a minor one, but it makes navigating the game a lot easier.
Using a lot of screen real estate on the sides for buttons is good for visuals, but it can be really annoying to navigate.
There is a reason why many games try and bring your dialog buttons, to the center of the screen.

6: A walkthrough, or a really good in game hint system. (This ties in to point 2. Cos it needs to be easy, if you dont want to go down the "!" route)
The important part of a good hint system in game tho, is that it needs to be easy and quick to navigate. No more than 3 preferably 2 clicks to see the hints.
A lot of games fail at this and have great hint systems, but you need to do 5-7 clicks on your phone to get to them.
Like for example: Mobile phone - Hint app - Girls - Quests - Chloe. And then you need to hit back in the bottom corner to click on the next girl. This is no bueno!
Best is to have a separate icon for hints, (thats on the main screen) and then just pictures of all the girls as icons on a screen, and you click one to get a hint.

7: You write, that there is going to be a lot of incest. Just dont forget about Patreon TOS. You need to have a patch or some system for the game, so its not incest enabled for patreon downloads. Or you WILL have issues, sooner or later!



The cardinal sin of sandbox games, is grind, and trying to stretch content. By making stuff hard to play, or having people guessing where to go, what to do and such.

I honestly only played your game for 10min, not cos dialogs where bad, not cos story or renders where bad.
It was 100% the way the sandbox was built!
I cant comment on the game it self really, but these things needs to be better, for people to actually want to find out.
Not trying to be mean, cos i understand you put a lot of effort down, and its a first release. But these things are HUGELY important for the success of a sandbox game.


Good luck!
exactly that i would too write (thanks for save my life to write that ;) )
i delete quick game after i saw "Talk" up to corner. dont like move mouse up and down ever time. no thanks. but the game look good and it can do better. there are a hope with the devs will list to all players from here and change game to succes!
 

r3ck5

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Mar 19, 2017
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can you avoid the D in this one or is it ''mandatory'' for story progression?
I haven't been able to progress -at all- so far, but in the intro the MC sucks a dick right away. So not completely avoidable. I dunno for anything further than that.
 

Zontany

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Mar 13, 2018
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Is there a reason why the game isn't working? I keep getting a full white screen than a full black screen and nothing.
 

tesugepe

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Mar 27, 2019
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There are 2 things not mentioned about this game:
  1. The game engine (seems like a variant of RPGMaker).
  2. The architecture (is 64-bit)!
It would be nice if someone could add/update the information in the OP.
 
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Akuniz

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Oct 27, 2018
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ok, even with this update... still no idea what to do. as i said before, my opinion
btw its not a matter of walkthrough , it a matter of what new ppl just downdod the game go forth, as in none we dont know but dude, the game is cool very sexy and what whver. just tell us where to go. rest is 100gold
 
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