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VN Ren'Py Angel and Succubus [v0.2 Fix] [Lucky Elsa]

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LinkBox88

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I don't mind the angel/demon morality setup but why do we need this superpower? This isn't specific to this game but mind control just takes the fun out of any fetish it gets combined with for me.

You like male domination? You must feel like such a big man using a cheap power to take control of the situation. You sure showed her!

You like exhibitionism? Well, let's just make her braindead so that she doesn't experience the feelings of embarrassment or liberation that would usually fuel the hotness of that kind of setup.

You like NTR? Let's just make her think you're her boyfriend so that she doesn't even realize she's betraying him or falling for another man.

The underlying psychological drive behind the fetish doesn't get satisfied because mind control hollows out to the mental payoff that's achieved. The whole dance of seduction, desire and conquest gets thrown out the window for god-mode with sex dolls. Not for me I guess.
 

Rosen King

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I don't mind the angel/demon morality setup but why do we need this superpower? This isn't specific to this game but mind control just takes the fun out of any fetish it gets combined with for me.

You like male domination? You must feel like such a big man using a cheap power to take control of the situation. You sure showed her!

You like exhibitionism? Well, let's just make her braindead so that she doesn't experience the feelings of embarrassment or liberation that would usually fuel the hotness of that kind of setup.

You like NTR? Let's just make her think you're her boyfriend so that she doesn't even realize she's betraying him or falling for another man.

The underlying psychological drive behind the fetish doesn't get satisfied because mind control hollows out to the mental payoff that's achieved. The whole dance of seduction, desire and conquest gets thrown out the window for god-mode with sex dolls. Not for me I guess.
As I mentioned in a previous post, this is only because of the particular way it's disproportionately used in standard porn games. It has the potential to satisfy all those things and more if done right, and people in actual mind control fetish communities will often tell you that the problems you described are exactly what makes that kind of usage unsatisfying for mind control fetishists. It's mostly just being used as a shortcut for more generic porn scenarios rather than explored as its own thing.

If you're looking for "the mental payoff", you should take a look at some of the stories written by real MC fetishists who want the same thing. Cat and mouse games between two hypnotists, sexual awakenings where the "victim" realizes she gets off on being changed and asks for more, et cetera. ...Which reminds me, my go-to example of what I like to see is . It's about a guy who learns that he can control people with his voice and accidentally uses it on his college's "queen bitch". She consents to helping him experiment and find out more about it, and realizes that she *really* likes it - so much so that the protagonist gets cold feet and cuts ties with her after she asks to be brainwashed into his slave. He tries to have a normal relationship with his high school sweetheart (who secretly has her own mind control fetish) instead, while finding safe outlets for his more predatory desires (e.g. one night stands at parties where girls are looking to get laid), but his original "partner" is used to getting her way no matter who she needs to manipulate. In other words, the antagonist/deuteragonist of this story is a hot bitch who wants to corrupt the protagonist into brainwashing her, even if his sweet and innocent (and secretly kinky) girlfriend gets caught in the crossfire.
 
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LinkBox88

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As I mentioned in a previous post, this is only because of the particular way it's disproportionately used in standard porn games. It has the potential to satisfy all those things and more if done right, and people in actual mind control fetish communities will often tell you that the problems you described are exactly what makes that kind of usage unsatisfying for mind control fetishists. It's mostly just being used as a shortcut for more generic porn scenarios rather than explored as its own thing.

If you're looking for "the mental payoff", you should take a look at some of the stories written by real MC fetishists who want the same thing. Cat and mouse games between two hypnotists, sexual awakenings where the "victim" realizes she gets off on being changed and asks for more, et cetera. ...Which reminds me, my go-to example of what I like to see is . It's about a guy who learns that he can control people with his voice and accidentally uses it on his college's "queen bitch". She consents to helping him experiment and find out more about it, and realizes that she *really* likes it - so much so that the protagonist gets cold feet and cuts ties with her after she asks to be brainwashed into his slave. He tries to have a normal relationship with his high school sweetheart (who secretly has her own mind control fetish) instead, while finding safe outlets for his more predatory desires (e.g. one night stands at parties where girls are looking to get laid), but his original "partner" is used to getting her way no matter who she needs to manipulate. In other words, the antagonist/deuteragonist of this story is a hot bitch who wants to corrupt the protagonist into brainwashing her, even if his sweet and innocent (and secretly kinky) girlfriend gets caught in the crossfire.
I appreciate that you responded to my dismissive rant with this offering of a broader perspective! I suppose I've gotten so used to getting annoyed at what mind control takes away that I might be a bit closed off to what it can offer.
 

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Посмотрел как игра. Решил оставить комментарий, тут немного советов и мыслей насчёт того что увидел в игре.

I watched the game. I decided to leave a comment, here are some tips and thoughts about what I saw in the game.


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