kzadazdazdazd

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i have a bug in this new update, after work i'm invited to the mansion then i need to speak with andrew and a bug happen when i click on andrew
 

Zara Scarlet

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What you're saying is just false information.
Once the initial set-up is done, a gangbang scene is just like any other scene, assuming you have the GPU and memory to cope with the extra figures.
I've done more than 12,000 renders in Daz, so I do know a little bit about it.
A gangbang/orgy scene would take no more time to render than any other scene.
You can do as few, or as many images as you want, but if the dev is just going to waste renders(Like 184 on the beach scene), then obviously it's going to take a long time, regardless.
All I'm going on, is what the Dev of this game has told me. I do actually talk to him, rather than about him as a lot of people on this thread appear to do. I have no reason to believe he is lying to me. Most of my information comes from the horses mouth, and is not just rumours or hypothesis. You may not always like what he does, but he's developed a very successful game, that has stood the test of time ( 7 years is an eternity in Adult games) and is still going strong. I'm pretty certain him and Awake know what they're doing and have a strong longterm plan for this game, and the logic behind that scene and others will become more apparent in future updates.

If it's so easy to do gangbang/orgy scenes as you claim, then why is it nobody does them? I've spoken to loads of Devs that would love to incorporate such scenes in their games, but virtually none do. So sorry, I think you're over simplifying a more complicated process, that is major time sink. I may not be as familiar with the technical side as you are, but I'm pretty sure Deep is, and he explained to me that scenes with multiple characters take much longer to produce, than scenes with just two characters. Now that might be only that the initial set-up of renders is more complicated and time consuming in those cases, but it makes little difference where the added time comes from, if the end result is having to spend much longer to release updates.
 

Zara Scarlet

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It's like in real life when there are multiple paths. I found EP 14 over-the-top and deadly boring, but I'm happy with EP 15 because I'm playing a different path (the criminal path). Others will see it completely differently. When you can play an MC so differently, it's very hard to satisfy every path in an EP.
That's absolutely spot-on. The Devs have certainly made it more difficult for themselves by continuing to add more characters to the game. These days there are so many, that providing regular content for all of them, is proving impossible. Some people like content with particular characters, and when that doesn't happen for a while, they start moaning and claiming that the game is going to pot etc etc. In a game like this, you can't just please everybody in every episode. It's impossible, and not that difficult to understand why really.

Personally, I like all the paths and I'm heavily invested in all of them ( I have several playthroughs to incorporate every variation). So I never get bored whatever the content is. But I understand some people just want to play certain content all the time, and even I have my favoured route, and in a perfect world there would be content in this, every update. So yeah, I get the frustration that people sometimes feel, when the game doesn't satisfy their particular itch. But that's just life, and as Mick Jagger sang 'You can't always get what you want'.
 
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Zara Scarlet

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Been a while since I played Chapter 1. Even though this still looks better than quite a few new games, the quality of the renders is leaps and bounds above this in Chapter 2. Anna is Anna though, always love :cool:
The greatest thing Deep has done, is to make his heroine so likeable. Everyone loves her. That would seem to be obvious in a game with a female protagonist, but it's not as easy as it seems. And many Devs of similar games, have failed totally with this. If you're going to have a game where the female MC is going to cheat on her boyfriend with half the city, better make her likeable, or she just becomes another cheating whore who leaves a sour taste. Anna has never done this, even though she's the ultimate cheating slut in adult games. Her fans just don't like her, they adore her, no matter what she does.
 

Zara Scarlet

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Has Ashley been written out of the story?
Ashley is one of the old characters, who is feeling the pinch because of the new characters added during Chapter 2. Ashley is a cammer, and his main purpose during Chapter 1 was to introduce Anna to the world of porn, and the possibility that she could become a performer. I think originally he was conceived as the means by which this would happen, with Anna, him and his friends performing on his cam channel. But towards the end of Chapter 1, Deep decided to transform Dilan from a mere photographer into a major porn producer, and as such Ashley became largely obsolete as Anna progressed towards more high end porn productions via Dilan.

I think Deep will always try to include Ashley in the game, but he's pretty much been relegated to a secondary character, unfortunately. Personally, I loved their scenes together, and I believe Anna ended up liking him, far more than she let on. He was always a bad boy, a character you either loved or hated. But Anna definitely has a thing for bad boys, and often brings the best out of them.

Ashley was the first character, that Anna cheats on Andrew with, in a scene that can initially be construed as rape. But by their second scene together, whilst Andrew sleeps in an adjoining bedroom, it's obvious Anna loves getting fucked by him, even if she kind of hates him for making her feel this way. Anna tried so hard to make herself dislike Ashley, but ultimately she fails, because despite his many character faults, he just makes her feel so good. Their third scene together in the restaurant toilet, is in my opinion one of the best sex scenes during Chapter 1. It's the scene where Anna first acknowledges that's she's becoming a slut and she likes being that way, it also hinted at the Dev's possible vision for the two of them, with Anna becoming Ashley's submissive bitch ( he gives her a collar to wear everytime they meet). A vision that now appears to have been discarded, unfortunately.
 

Caboose88

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I remember years ago he was going to make him a full on cuck, and it started with Anna giving a BJ to the black guy ig and Andrew walked in and that was supposed to be the first step in that path. But then he said he'd push back this initiation and IDK what happened after it but I guess he just neglected the idea as a whole.
same with anna and possibly a trans it was voted on back years ago doing a gym scene with a trainer and he was open to it being a futa/trans the vote actually passed :x but nothing ever happend about it
 

Zara Scarlet

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I remember years ago he was going to make him a full on cuck, and it started with Anna giving a BJ to the black guy ig and Andrew walked in and that was supposed to be the first step in that path. But then he said he'd push back this initiation and IDK what happened after it but I guess he just neglected the idea as a whole.
I don't think he's ever suggested that he planned to make Andrew into a cuck. I asked about this two years ago, and although he didn't rule it out, he didn't say it was going to happen either. There are certain things in the game, that are set in stone, and Deep won't budge on them at all. There is a broad framework that the game has to follow. But within that there is leeway to change things, if the Devs feel they want to take a somewhat different line. And that's how the Devs are occasionally able to accomodate the wishes of patrons.

For instance, I don't think Deep originally planned for Anna to be dominant, in the way she probably will be eventually on the criminal path. That's something that has changed over time. And it may be, that making Andrew into a more conventional cuck, to allow their relationship to continue, may be another example of that? But at this stage, it's too early to tell. Deep always keeps his cards close to his chest, and doesn't reveal a lot about future developments until they're actually upon us. It's also equally possible Andrew's so-called 'Renaissance Route' will take an entirely different tack.

The event you're talking about was during the drug deal at the motel, and she was actually giving a BJ to the guy they were selling the drugs to, after he threatened to pull out of the deal. He was actually white ( Michael, Sergey's black henchman was there, but he just watched on while Anna saved the day) and Andrew was outside the room on the balcony keeping watch. Eventually, he gets anxious after the deal seems to be taking too long, and almost walks in on Anna giving the other guy a BJ.
I don't think Deep ever really intended for Andrew to become a cuck, in the conventional sense. He was just toying with the players, making them think it might happen, by creating an element of doubt in Andrew's mind, but nothing he ever truly believed in.

Back then, in Chapter 1, the game was so linear, there wasn't a lot of leeway to create a completely separate path where Andrew was a cuck. So I can't imagine that Deep ever seriously entertained that idea?
 

Gearz24

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Scenes this update felt underwhelming, even in previous updates. Unpopular opinion but I think Anna's best scenes are with BBC now, should probably have more of that instead of the stale foreplay recently
At this point that's what the updates will be stale and boring, wish dev would just finish game and put out of it's misery.
 
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