Yeah at the beginning there is an option where you can either pursue a friendship with ther or skip all the trans content. I think it's the first scene where you see her getting bullied.
Right, I thought so. I remembered pointing it out before that it might be a good idea to reword the choice in a future update to make it clear that there really isn't a friendship only option.
The bad thing about this formulation of the option is that it implies that you can choose between friendship or that the relationship goes further. And, certainly, they aren't the two options you have when the time comes.
Yeah that is something that the dev should really fix in the future. I thought that there would be a friendship only path with Nea. The suicide thing really caught me by surprise.
It certainly took me by surprise too. The route that suddenly disappeared is the one I intended to follow.
Same, though generally usually means when a character has been through some extremely traumatic event or string of events. Traumatized people and people on the edge of suicide, Nea is one of the latter, don't appeal to me. I don't want to bang someone, virtually or in reality, that could just end up dead the next day by their own hand. Rin from Lessons in Love is the same way with me right now, she's even my number one character without contest and I absolutely do not want to go for sex with her until she is treated for her condition. Rin happens to be a cis woman.
This is one of the few games where I am in that same boat, Seki happens to be one of my favorites.
YES! She is actually my favorite in all of A69, even with what little time she has had in game.
I hope Seki and Yui get some of the update, some Evie and Millie would be nice, too.
It essentially means going on about something passionately, so for this thread that would be the whole Nea love or death choice.
Still working on Parental Love, nothing yet for this game.
There is, she dies by suicide if you don't love her, that's what started the whole argument.
I mean, there is the alternative of also making a friendship option, which is actually doable with only the renders he would be making for the love option and just excluding the sexual events from firing in the code.
Exactly
This right here is a huge issue to me from a development point of view. Intertwining a web of requirements is fine, but they should never be focused on the sole purpose of driving one single character, especially one as contentious as Nea. This is an extremely bad move and is more likely to push people away entirely than it is to draw people to the game.
There is a option at the start of the game to ignore Nea you still have to trigger their events but nothing shows as it skips their content. The only argument that I saw was the ones that were on the friends only route got mad when Nea killed themselves.
That is the option that caused the whole issue as the only option that is not treated as if you reject Nea is to go all the way, as for the part about soapboxing, I didn't see Mark's reply until I was already done and posted my own, otherwise I would have taken it out. That can happen with a long list of replies, which I tend to have a lot of in the large number of threads I go through.
Scroll up!!! or look here, since no one knows how to look for themselves on this site...
There's an answer to that in this post. https://f95zone.to/threads/apartment-69-v0-06-luxee.18630/post-8066645
It's mostly complaints that the options presented are love interest or death by suicide (and, as noted above, ignore completely) with no friendship option. It seems obvious to me that Luxee isn't interested in that version of the story so all those people are doing by complaining is pissing them off.
Some people don't like that Nea is a central figure in the game and that many other characters have their content gated by Nea, but that is not the only issue. A big part of the issue is not the character of Nea per say, but with what some people felt was a false promise. They believed that you could befriend and help Nea without a romance, but then it turned out you couldn't. If you don't romance Nea you get a... less than ideal outcome. It is off putting to them to force the choice of either ignoring Nea all together, which off sets the story because Nea is a prominent part of the story for several characters, or romance Nea as the only two options to avoid her jumping.
Some of it is not Nea, but that the player is forced into two choices, love or death. Not death of the player character, either, but the death of Nea. The choice is basically go all the way or be a contributing factor in Nea's suicide, which some people, myself included, cannot stand. It makes us feel responsible for Nea's death, as if Luxee is guilt tripping us for not wanting to be more than friends.
Honestly, even as a long time fan, if not wanting to support this love or death choice pisses Luxee off, so be it.
Oh no, Nea would be fine as a central figure, actually, I think Nea fits that role quite well. The problem is definitely as you said, we are forced into a, literal in universe, life or death decision all for just wanting to keep it on friendly terms so we can still get the other girls and have Nea around as well without the romance, and worse, after it was said we would get a friendship option with no mention Nea would die as a result. Quite frankly, I have been holding back by quite a bit. The way I see it, this was false advertising, we were told one thing and were given another. We were told we would get friendship, but what we got was Nea's death.
Boo hoo, then the choices presented to you are shut the fuck up and leave the thread or keep ranting about it, annoying most of the other people in here, with zero chance of the changes you demand.
I have no interest in the MC having a relationship with Nea, so as sad as it is, there is only one other option left.
In fact, in the last update, those who thought this way can put it into practice permanently. Personally I would rather have the option to prevent it from happening and not have to start a relationship with Nea to do so.
