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damn. even in the discord dev has disappeared. the game is good as dead.
Sad fucking times this will be by far my favorite girl in VN
She is great but not my fav.Sad fucking times this will be by far my favorite girl in VN
With how the world is and the people that fill it, I doubt we'll have/get many more games like this.We need more quality games like this one.
Then they would win. They made you so angry or bothered, that now you're focusing your time/energy on making stuff just to piss off the people that rubbed you the wrong way. Two-Face once said "Don't give in"I think it's a good thing that I am not a dev because I think if I were in Luxee's place I would've made even more Nea content, just to piss them off.
Yeah that is why I said it's a good thing that I am not a dev. Also the game is not really abandoned, as far as I know luxee is still working on the game. It just got the abandoned tag because luxee hasn't made any posts on patreon or subscribestar for over 3 months. It's just a rule from the forum.Then they would win. They made you so angry or bothered, that now you're focusing your time/energy on making stuff just to piss off the people that rubbed you the wrong way. Two-Face once said "Don't give in"
Luxee, sorry for all of the drama you had to deal with. So much drama that it made you get up and abandon this... I really did hope to see it finished one day...
Yeah i look at the dev website, they don't say the game is abandoned or anything.Yeah that is why I said it's a good thing that I am not a dev. Also the game is not really abandoned, as far as I know luxee is still working on the game. It just got the abandoned tag because luxee hasn't made any posts on patreon or subscribestar for over 3 months. It's just a rule from the forum.
There is many games with no trans character, in fact that's the case of an immense majority of the games out there. Why bigots can't just play those and shut up? What is even more hypocritical is those guys are always whining about a supposed cancel culture when they are in fact themselves bullying everyone who is different from them into silence.
Honestly, if it weren't for those idiots I would have never known this game.Luxee, sorry for all of the drama you had to deal with. So much drama that it made you get up and abandon this... I really did hope to see it finished one day...
I won't say there were no people bashing the dev, but from what I saw, the majority of people - at least here, and some other places - liked Nea, but not in a game that is impossible to progress without being a harem game. That Nea was written in a way that, if it was revealed that MC was essentially building a harem with anyone he could stick his dick in, while Nea thinks she found "the one," Nea just "going along with it" would make absolutely zero sense.. . . But it seemed like there were people who didn't like the character and constantly bashed the author . . .
There a quite a lot of games that feature trans-characters, and I don't think that more that a handful of them receives amount of hatred&bigotry that this game (allegedly) gets. Which means that either the whole conflict is overblown, or the problem lies in something other than simply "Look, there's a trans-character in this game! Let's hate it!!!"There is many games with no trans character, in fact that's the case of an immense majority of the games out there. Why bigots can't just play those and shut up?
Let's just admit that such people exist on the both sides of the fence.What is even more hypocritical is those guys are always whining about a supposed cancel culture when they are in fact themselves bullying everyone who is different from them into silence.
The gamemaking (as well as many other things, if you think about it) is more about "experience", rather than "talent". If you have a desire to make something, just try it - coding is very newbie-friendly these days and free engines are free.I'm a trans woman myself: that's nice once in a while to play a game where there is someone like me. If i had any talent at making art, i would also probably try to create some.
I don't know much about trans-identity, or how realistic Nea's character is, and while I like her as a character, there's a certain point in her route that makes said route absolutely revolting for me (call me a bigot, if you want, but there's that). So, the main plotline of Nea's route is MC acting as a white-knight for acceptance of Nea's trans-identity, raging whenever somebody misgenders her and refuses to see her as a woman, jumping at them and demaning from them to change their views, and overall acting very supportive of Nea being a trans-woman. A bit too political for me, but whatever, it's a matter of taste. The point it makes is that MC is presented as a very trans-accepting person. Remember that. Now there's another plotline in her route and that is "MC's inner thoughts and his feelings for Nea". And here is where that problem lies. MC, who is normally portrayed as a literal manwhore (in one scene he literally pees at the face of some random girl he never saw before, without mentioning the fact of him fucking his entire family), who goes for every woman he sees (and yeah, you could say that it's a sandbox game and there are different routes, except that in order to progress in some routes you actually MUST progress in others, which means that all of them are connected in one storyline), but in case with Nea he SUDDENLY gets very careful with how he sees her - very careful to see her only as a friend and not be attracted to her - at one point literally says something like "Wait, did I just thought that Nea is cute? That doesn't makes me gay, does it?". And at this point the entire main plotline with MC being Nea's white knight turns into an extremely revolting hypocrisy, because the enitre time that he advocates for her being a trans-woman and forcing other to accept it, he himself doesn't actually sees her as a woman.The dev obviously know a lot about transidentity and what hell life we live because of a loud minority of bullies. Nea is really well written, the events are totally believable. We need more quality games like this one.
Yes, he doesn't know that from the start, but upon learning about Nea being trans-person (which happens pretty early in her route) he immediately becomes very supportive of her, which makes it seem as if he etiher doesn't care about stereotypes and rumors or haven't heard about any of them before; to the point of not caring if talking to her harms his reputation (since she's basically a pariah). The "I'm not gay, am I?" moment happens much later in the story (without mentioning the fact that throughout the entire story, until the very end, in his inner monologues he actively refuses every notion of finding her cute/attractive), which is AFTER MC repeating many times to the bigots and Nea herself that she's an absolutely normal girl and there's nothing wrong with her. It would've been logical if he was confused upon learning about her being a trans-person, but throughout the story would've come to accept and support her. So again, it all comes down to the very mismatched external/internal plots of Nea's route.The MC initially don't even know Nea is trans at start. He just defend her because she's victim of bullying and he doesn't like that, also he's new here and want friends (eventually with benefits). The MC is supposed to be a former victim of bullying himself.
That part is kinda realistic too. He starts to see her a bit differently when he learns she's trans but at least he keeps saying Nea and using feminine pronums. The guy initially know nothing about transidentity. He changes by educated himself a bit and on contact with Nea.
I find this mismatch to honestly be very in-line with reality. Your first thought when being supportive of someone and their life after finding them attractive isn't "does this make me gay," but rather a total denial you could find them attractive because of their circumstances. After this first reality is hurdled, coming to terms with you finding them attractive and could see yourself liking/dating/loving them, then comes the tackling of your own sexual preferences. This was my experience when I was exposed to the world of trans-people and my first trans girlfriend. I came to conclude the the labels largely didn't matter to me, but rather the person I liked was the important factor. Whether someone else outside of our relationship found that to be gay or straight was irrelevant to me. It's why when someone asks my preference I usually answer with Pansexual. The person matters much more than their genitalia, for me.It would've been logical if he was confused upon learning about her being a trans-person, but throughout the story would've come to accept and support her. So again, it all comes down to the very mismatched external/internal plots of Nea's route.
The city of Chicago is very liberal, the state as a whole however is more conservative. This is actually very commonplace in the US, where city centers sway heavily to democratic/liberal, and the surrounding areas are republican/conservative (See Austin, Houston and Dallas, TX and Texas as a whole).Also, I don't live in US and don't care about its politics, so I might be mistaken on that, but from what I remember, this game takes place in Illinois, which is supposed to be pretty "liberal" state?
Given the map seems within a rural/suburban part of Illinois (just based off the map and layout) it'd be pretty safe to assume you'd have a fair mix of both types of people within the game map. Again following the outline I layed out above, the city area would have more liberal-minded people within it, and where Nea resides (more rural, denoted by the larger yards, houses and overall space) would have more conservatives. Depending on where the school actually is in physical relation to the city vs the rural areas of the game map, it'd be safe to say that it probably resides more in the rural area, and would not have much support for someone such as Nea.Is it logical that literally everybody in Nea's life (except MC and his family) are "conservative" bigots? Again, I have no idea of how it works irl, but didn't she received some transitioning help from some internet group?
I don't disagree with this sentiment, but for a game to be good, not just a porn game but any, it's scenes and scenarios have to make sense. Largely I feel Luxee has done an outstanding job in not only making the characters and MC within their story feel like people, but the environment which they are in resulting in these types of characters.Although in any case that might be too much logic to ask from a porn game, so whatever.
Suburban is not rural. I don't remember seeing anything to suggest that the game is set in a rural area.Given the map seems within a rural/suburban part of Illinois (just based off the map and layout) it'd be pretty safe to assume you'd have a fair mix of both types of people within the game map. Again following the outline I layed out above, the city area would have more liberal-minded people within it, and where Nea resides (more rural, denoted by the larger yards, houses and overall space) would have more conservatives. Depending on where the school actually is in physical relation to the city vs the rural areas of the game map, it'd be safe to say that it probably resides more in the rural area, and would not have much support for someone such as Nea.
So far I like all the girls so I am not too mad if get a couple of updates without Nea. She was the main focus for most of the game, the other characters need some love as well.bruh i wasnt even excited for the next update since it was pool with no Nae... and your telling me i got wait again after this, IF the dev updates