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Dr.Wolfman

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Do what makes you happy, but there's a good reason most games don't have "truly interactive sex scenes" and that's cause if you're playing a porn game but can't nut during the sexy bits because it requires too much concentration/clicking/button presses, it just pisses people off. It also generally gets absurdly repetitive with how most games need you to see the same/similar sex scenes to unlock further scenes. Almost every game that tries rightfully gets a ton of pushback from players and either removes it to become successful long term, or gets abandoned because people don't support it. I wish you luck and hope you've cracked some way of getting around those issues.
Thanks for the reply. I personally think that there are different types of players, and the interactivity can be a factor that would make the game stand out. But what do you mean by repetitive sex scenes? One of the interactions have 49 different scenes just for one girl.
 

Dr.Wolfman

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The game looked interesting until I get to Kendra's scene where she is doing a BJ to "her boyfriend" :KEK:,yes, you can avoid looking at the scene, but it still happens and also to get the most points or different stats you have to watch and help her when the guy forcedly deepthroats her. (I saw the harem tag, I didn't expect to find that,I thought voyeur was there because of bathroom scene :HideThePain:)

How does the incest tag work here? since there is no option to rename/change relationship whit Dee and Mandy as mother/sister and not a patch either.

The part where the mc makes porn videos, having to change positions and repeat several times to get them to orgasm is kind of annoying (the orgasm bar fills up very slowly and too many clicks...) however, i like the hints to know what they want.

Anyways Good Luck.
Hey, thanks for the reply. I kinda fucked up the tags haha. What I meant by incest is that it will be implemented in future releases. But I already corrected it.
About the scenes, that's kind of main feature in the game. One could easily find games that don't have any orgasm bars, but I am focusing on making the sex scenes as real and interactive as possible without being repetitive, hence the 40+scenes for each of the main choices at the end. Also by making the girl orgasm more than once or simply by not making her cum at all there's different outcomes. And a little spoiler, the mc will have powers that can speed way up the girl orgasm, but that's for a different release.
 
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Dr.Wolfman

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From playing through it, my impression is that the interactive scenes are video clips you hit play on as the scene progresses, and then in some places you select which sex position to go to next. So, thankfully, not anything that requires concentration or a bunch of clicking.

All in all, not a bad start! But agreed, this shouldn't be labeled as a 1.0 just yet.
Thanks for the reply man. I listed it as 1.0 since there's a full chapter released. What would you suggest for a label?
 

Dr.Wolfman

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So this is another game where first of all we have a fake incest (even at the start there is information that the mother of the MC died) and on top of that even though I do not see the tag NTR in the game your comment makes it clear that we have in the game NTR which on top of that cannot be avoided, so harem and NTR together again in a pair. LOL
Seriously I do not know where these devs get the information that if they try to make a game with harem and ntr together it will satisfy all players. (n)
So thanks for the info what we have in this game because thanks to this I can save my time and skip downloading and playing this game since we have ntr in it and incest doesn't really exist in it.
Thanks for the reply. But let's clarify some things. First of all, why do you look so mad? Second of all I don't get why you assumed there's NTR in this game. To be fair I didn't even knew what that was until now haha. There may be some scenes with NTR in the future(personally I don't like it), but it will surely be completely avoidable. My aim is to put in many options that can be either chosen or avoided, so the player can have his own experience.
I bet that if you really played the game before replying you would have a chance to like the game better. But hey, that's your choice.
 

Dr.Wolfman

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Had a couple of blank videos during the intro (progress bar but black screen). I get the same when I tried to view them in Windows. The preview shows for the file, but I got a black screen.
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Using white text on a yellow text box is impossible to read. Even the light blue box with white text is difficult to see.

At 1GB for an initial release, it's going to need some optimization on the dev's end to knock some of that down. WebM at the very least to cut down the video sizes.
The jpgs used for avatars and scenes vary greatly in size as well. What are displayed as 135x135 avatars (on a 1080p screen) have files anywhere from 200x200 up to 1400x1400 (for an avatar!). The bathroom background (which is a webp) is 669KB and 2999x1687(!) I reduced it with Irfanview (not optimal) down to a 1024x576 jpg, at 100% quality, with a file size of 463KB.

Even the original file for the patreon logo used in the left bar comes in at 852x350 which is then scaled down to 176x72 (again, on a 1080p screen).

It may not sound like that much for the time being, but as you add scenes and characters later on it will add up fast and it will save quite a bit of space/bandwidth in the long run.
Thanks for the reply. I didn't have any problem with the videos loading in different pcs and browsers, but I'll take a look.
As for the size of stuff I agree with you. I'll manage to decrease the size in future releases.
 

Dr.Wolfman

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Ah, easy avoid then. Thank you for taking one for the team my dude.

And my condolences. NTR in a harem game... :KEK:
Hey man, the NTR tag is not even in the post, and the guy that said it has NTR didn't even played the game haha. Give it a shot :)
 

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So first off, the game is quite big already. I want to advice you to convert all the .mp4 to, for example .webm this will reduce the size greatly without losing quality.

For the rest this should probably be marked as a VN.
 

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NTR? Your platonic friend has oral sex with her boyfriend, I assume with a setup to steal her away later, as he is displayed as a giant cunt. You can even choose not to see it. You know a lot of people have sex right? Maybe even your neighbor or parents right now and you are being NTR'ed as we speak according to your rules.
 

Dr.Wolfman

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I have a question. What exactly do you mean by interactive scenes? Do you mean scenes where you can make choices or do some button presses/ timing minigames?
The main focus is the scene interactivity. But I surely want to give the player the possibility to choose many differents paths in the story.
 

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So this is another game where first of all we have a fake incest (even at the start there is information that the mother of the MC I do not see the tag NTR in the game
The NTR tag is for, and only is for, when an MC's love interest fucks someone else for the purpose of making the MC jealous.

It doesn't include things like polyamory, pimping, cases where a woman just has a boyfriend, or anything except jealousy-play by an LI of the MC. It doesn't even include cases where the MC NTRs other characters.

The tags are meant to be specific and informative. For example, if you don't like cases where the MC is watching someone else get fucked, then you'd want to avoid the 'voyeurism' tag.

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That jealousy is the important part.

I'm going to play this game, and see this scene, and decide, but if the poster is following the rules and there's no jealousy-play in the story, the tag shouldn't be there, as a heads up.

NTR? Your platonic friend has oral sex with her boyfriend, I assume with a setup to steal her away later, as he is displayed as a giant cunt. You can even choose not to see it. You know a lot of people have sex right? Maybe even your neighbor or parents right now and you are being NTR'ed as we speak according to your rules.
Yeah, that's not the NTR-tag. That's just straight up voyeurism. If the eventual goal is for the MC to NTR the giantcuntboyfriend, then that's still not NTR-tag.

Seriously I do not know where these devs get the information that if they try to make a game with harem and ntr together it will satisfy all players.
We just call that polyamory. It's a thing.
 

Dr.Wolfman

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The NTR tag is for, and only is for, when an MC's love interest fucks someone else for the purpose of making the MC jealous.

It doesn't include things like polyamory, pimping, cases where a woman just has a boyfriend, or anything except jealousy-play by an LI of the MC. It doesn't even include cases where the MC NTRs other characters.

The tags are meant to be specific and informative. For example, if you don't like cases where the MC is watching someone else get fucked, then you'd want to avoid the 'voyeurism' tag.

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That jealousy is the important part.

I'm going to play this game, and see this scene, and decide, but if the poster is following the rules and there's no jealousy-play in the story, the tag shouldn't be there, as a heads up.



Yeah, that's not the NTR-tag. That's just straight up voyeurism. If the eventual goal is for the MC to NTR the giantcuntboyfriend, then that's still not NTR-tag.



We just call that polyamory. It's a thing.
Thanks for the reply. But as I said, I didn't put the NTR tag at any moment (didn't even knew what that was until today), so I don't know what this is all about.
 

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Thanks for the reply. But as I said, I didn't put the NTR tag at any moment (didn't even knew what that was until today), so I don't know what this is all about.
You did fine my dude. You tagged correctly. There's just a lot of people who get uptight about things and start redefining the tags to mean 'literally anything I don't personally like' instead of looking for the whole of the tags and forming a picture.

I mean its not desirable for a person that pops into a thread and sees a harem tag and no other tags indicating cuckish content other than voyeurism which is a broad definition of many things then to see a scene of another guy getting blown by yes his gf but also possibly a future li, could this be considered ntr?
If it's designed to show jealousy as a narrative, yes. If it's not, then no.

So a future LI having a boyfriend you plan on cucking is not NTR, unless the whole dynamic is 'boo hoo why isn't she with me'. It's the jealousy that makes the NTR-tag. Without it, it can't be NTR-tagged.

The reason they don't use the broader definition is because in that case, NTR would include extortion stories (where the MC's LI is subject to coercion or rape, not for jealousy but to show weakness) and being cuckolded, and even cuckholding others. If you're into the third but not the first two, you'd have to get more information and vague tags are not permissible.

And that gets away from the rather loose definition some have of NTR where 'other male characters exists and use their penises' somehow also qualifies as NTR.

from your perspective no, from my perspective it is borderline like any other vn real porn or not that does this sort of thing, we all have different opinions on what is and isn't cuck content
But we only have one definition on what the NTR-tag means. And that definition has been clarified: It's about the MC being jealous. No jealous MC = no NTR-tag.

such as sharing/swinging
That already has its own tag. Polyamory is not NTR.

whoring out your li
That already has its own tag. Prostitution is not inherently NTR any more than it's inherently harem. (I should know for this one.)

and in my opinion it is, also I can honestly tell you now I would go crazy seeing my parents have sex not out of jealousy but madness of never getting the image out of head
Valid. But that is not the NTR-tag.

anyway its all a mute point now since the dev himself confirmed ntr, just felt like giving a non cucks opinion

(No I'm not calling you a cuck sir/madam)
Planned content is not supposed to be included in the tags--tags are only supposed to be the content contained in the release.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I personally think that there are different types of players, and the interactivity can be a factor that would make the game stand out. But what do you mean by repetitive sex scenes? One of the interactions have 49 different scenes just for one girl.
I haven't played your game yet so I don't know if you fell into this trap (but historically almost every game does because if not it's almost always a kinetic novel with each scene happening once and only once and no variation on where you can go/do), but I mean that if you force people to repeat sex scenes in any way, no matter how much variation you add it gets boring fast and that's ALWAYS exacerbated by more interactivity. Having 49 minor variations on a scene doesn't make it better if the player needs to do it x times to have the right stats to bring a partner to the next stage or unlock a new one. At that point it stops being sexy and starts being "what's the fastest way to get through this slog".
 
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I do not see the tag NTR in the game your comment makes it clear that we have in the game NTR which on top of that cannot be avoided, so harem and NTR together again in a pair.
There is a character who already has a boyfriend. You walk in on them going at it and have the option to watch. That is not NTR, even by the extreme loosest defintion. That is voyeurism, which is clearly marked.


The game is tagged correctly.
 

Troqu

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There is a character who already has a boyfriend. You walk in on them going at it and have the option to watch. That is not NTR, even by the extreme loosest defintion. That is voyeurism, which is clearly marked.


The game is tagged correctly.
These kinds of people have this unreasonable demand that every other potential partner (or hell just person they're attracted to, even if the game makes it clear they aren't a potential) be either single, in a loveless relationship, or their lover is indefinitely absent for some reason or they screech "NTR! NTR!!!!!" repeatedly until they get removed by the mods or annoy the creator into removing it. Stay strong Dr.Wolfman
 
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