What do you thinks about sandbox in the games?

  • I like

    Votes: 59 65.6%
  • I dont like

    Votes: 20 22.2%
  • I have no opinion

    Votes: 11 12.2%

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desmosome

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Thank you for the answer, I understand you. I really liked your game. An interesting world, an intriguing plot, good characters. And I really want to believe that the flaws that are there now are the result of an early version of the game. I understand perfectly well that the setting of the game involves the death of characters from the player's choice, but not from everyone! And this should not constantly lead to the death of the player! You are given two choices A and B. You choose for yourself, the character dies the game ends, this is a dead-end branch of the plot, it does not let you play. There is only one way to continue the game, B. choose In the end and it turns out that you have no choice, you either choose B and play on, you either choose this and the game ends. This is the illusion of choice. And this happens more than once in the game. If you take the good story games "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic", "Dragon Age", "Mass Effect", they always give several ways to develop the plot. And your choice doesn't end the game, you have to live with the consequences. Of course, this is your game and it's not for me to tell you how to do it. I'm just giving friendly advice, players like freedom of choice, people like to go through the game in different ways and see different results. Do not take away people's freedom. Good luck!
Do you think player freedom comes free? The dev did give us a lot of freedom in how the MC can act. A lot more than most games. If you do some seriously fucked up stuff, the game cannot go on unless a whole different branch is made. Essentially doubling the workload so early in the game. I also hate bad endings, but only if it doesn't have any scenes to go with it. This game always gave us some deliciously depraved scenes before the bad ends happen, so it's not a waste of time. I'm sure the MC could "train" her enough eventually so that there doesn't have to be a drastically different route to support the "evil" choices.

What I found more annoying was the anxiety checks that don't lead to bad endings, but cut off scenes if it's too high.
 

goonslagoon

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Thank you for the answer, I understand you. I really liked your game. An interesting world, an intriguing plot, good characters. And I really want to believe that the flaws that are there now are the result of an early version of the game. I understand perfectly well that the setting of the game involves the death of characters from the player's choice, but not from everyone! And this should not constantly lead to the death of the player! You are given two choices A and B. You choose for yourself, the character dies the game ends, this is a dead-end branch of the plot, it does not let you play. There is only one way to continue the game, B. choose In the end and it turns out that you have no choice, you either choose B and play on, you either choose this and the game ends. This is the illusion of choice. And this happens more than once in the game. If you take the good story games "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic", "Dragon Age", "Mass Effect", they always give several ways to develop the plot. And your choice doesn't end the game, you have to live with the consequences. Of course, this is your game and it's not for me to tell you how to do it. I'm just giving friendly advice, players like freedom of choice, people like to go through the game in different ways and see different results. Do not take away people's freedom. Good luck!
I definitely get the wish for impactful choices but those games had million dollar budgets, "KOTOR" specifically had (according to google) a budget of 200 million which =250 million in 2022 based on inflation. I personally think Its best that they don't broaden their games scope too much since that's pretty much what happens to most games on this site. Also "apocalypse loves" actually seems to have a story and I would like to see the ending some day, preferably not in 5+ years. Also updates will take longer and feel shorter since I think most people only play one route so they'll miss a good chuck of any update. well whatever the dev decides I hope they plan out the game so they can actually have the accomplishment of finishing their game in a satisfactory way without committing 1/10th of their total lifespan. So far I think its a great game based on Ep.1, and adding multiple routs would probably make it better though that will require time and money which is quite limited.
 

ChampionXD

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Jun 27, 2017
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I noticed there are different age ratings at the start of the game but the 18+ ones are greyed out is this because its not implemented yet or is it patreon only?
 

Sennistrasz

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Custom name for the sister didn't work properly, it became the main girl's name.

You did sam_name = jess_name.strip()

Another bug, if you leave the rod until last, you can't take it because inventory full.
 
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e-disfunction

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I will try to explain this without spoiling the story ;)

This is intended for the title to have a double meaning.

The real title of this game series should have been Apocalyspe(') Lovers. Meaning that it could be Apocalypse Lovers OR Apocalypse' Lovers.
Oh, then just leave the apostrophe out of the title completely because the amibiguity and possible double-meaning is automatically available in English!

Once you add the apostrophe, you are signalling that there is only one meaning, and then you cause confusion (in a bad way) as the reader doesn't know what you mean because you spelled it incorrectly. (It would need to be Apocalypse's or Apocalyses' Lovers because apocalypse' is meaningless in English — it is actually incorrect and completely without meaning!)

I hope that helps you! :)

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Manoman13

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I played the game until bathroom scene than MC became an Apocalypse Cuck (if that scene is the harbinger of more "bad" (my view) three letter crap to come, even when it's presented as back story, that's a pass from me).
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The game will still have fans.

Good luck dev.
Anna doesn't have your wife, she's Lewis's wife and Lewis offers you to come and watch them

Cuck = your wife fucked by another man
Voyeur = watching people get fucked

 

goonslagoon

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Anna doesn't have your wife, she's Lewis's wife and Lewis offers you to come and watch them

Cuck = your wife fucked by another man
Voyeur = watching people get fucked

If you think about it anyone that watches porn is a Voyeur, though we only consider it creepy when done in person. But isn't porn done I'm person more like watching a live play. well at least on the voyeurs side, finding out someone was watching you doing the act sounds horrifying, well unless you intently give them a chance to watch just like in this game.
 
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Manoman13

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If you think about it anyone that watches porn is a Voyeur, though we only consider it creepy when done in person. But isn't porn done I'm person more like watching a live play. well at least on the voyeurs side, finding out someone was watching you doing the act sounds horrifying, well unless you intently give them a chance to watch just like in this game.
But do you agree with me that watching a friend fuck his wife is not cuckold but voyeurism?

lewis tells MC to watch lewis fuck anna (anna lewis wife)
So lewis wants voyeurism and you the MC become a voyeur but not cuck because it's not the MC's wife.

sorry if I repeat myself English is not my native language and I hope you can understand me well
 

goonslagoon

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But do you agree with me that watching a friend fuck his wife is not cuckold but voyeurism?

lewis tells MC to watch lewis fuck anna (anna lewis wife)
So lewis wants voyeurism and you the MC become a voyeur but not cuck because it's not the MC's wife.

sorry if I repeat myself English is not my native language and I hope you can understand me well
Definitely not cuckold since anna was never in a relationship with the MC
 

-Awake-

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Oh, then just leave the apostrophe out of the title completely because the amibiguity and possible double-meaning is automatically available in English!

Once you add the apostrophe, you are signalling that there is only one meaning, and then you cause confusion (in a bad way) as the reader doesn't know what you mean because you spelled it incorrectly. (It would need to be Apocalypse's or Apocalyses' Lovers because apocalypse' is meaningless in English — it is actually incorrect and completely without meaning!)

I hope that helps you! :)

e-d
Thank you really much for your explanation.

Indeed, I made a truly regrettable mistake :cry:

So I'm going to start a change campaign on the title.

But before I embark on this work of correction on all media, could you confirm this one last time if possible.

To have the double meaning I told you about, the correct spelling is therefore: Apocalypse Lovers?

Does this maintain explicitly the ambivalence of the meaning ?
 
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haha mm

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To have the double meaning I told you about, the correct spelling is therefore: Apocalypse Lovers?

Does this maintain explicitly the ambivalence of the meaning ?
I think you probably want Lovers of the Apocalypse.

EDIT: Eh, maybe not.
 
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