Canto Forte

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For vamps .. mc needs to progress the story by dreaming of his babe
and aht she has to put up with at the job. Also investigate late night.

Sleeping is important in this game also.
Surveillance needs to be needed by plot talk to padre, talk to babe to be surveilled, look for the cameras in the mall store...
 

Lgn332

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Progression with Daniel's mom but no sex with her, only watch her husband fuck twice the blonde who owns the store ( how do i start this quest? I went to her home at night nothing happening?
You can have sex with her (Daniel's mom).

You need to give her two pills to help her relax.
 

Lgn332

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Well from the description the game sounded pretty cool but then I read reviews and this thread and this apparently a mods "protected" game. Why cant these games just be tagged correctly without mods stepping in and "protecting" certain games?

By the description it would attract harem fans but its definately geared towards Voyeur/NTR/Cuck fans.

Why lie to potential fans. Its just sad...
The MC has sex with female humans (from young to old), vampires, aliens, werewolves, a demon, an angel and a ghost.

He is as far from Cuck as I can imagine.
 

Nitwitty

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For incest patch to work the texts(dialogs) needs to be rewritten in many parts and i think no one will take that thankless work.


And the original incest patch as said by the uploader has many problems.
Extremely poor planning by the game dev.....at least in this regard. They should take out the incest tag then.
 
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Harem Trooper

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Bro,how some one uses the tags its up to them. Like I already explained to you, some will search for it because they hope to find such contend (Like Harem because they want to see the option there) or stay away from it when they see a game with a specific tag (like NTR because he cant deal with it).
Like I said, the tags are only there so people get to know what the game has. As a warning for some, and a feature for others.
Like the saying "One mans trash, others man treasure"

This whole "what is real NTR" is tiresome so I will make it short. People who you call NTRphobes has some points in common when they are looking for a porngame. I know it because im one of them too.
Most of them dont want the LIs to be shagged by other dudes in the story. Thats it. Dosent mater if they husband and wife, or GF and BF. They just dont like it and you have to take it how it is.
You mentioned Being a Dik. Sage have a BF in the beginning but if they fucked, you are not forced to watch it.
Bella is married but once again, if they fucked it wasnt shown. Quinn and many others are whores but the only sex scenes they got are with MC.
Like muslims dont want any crumb of pork in their meat, s these NTR haters wont take it lightly when they see her sister/mom GF etc to be banged by some other dude. You say these people should get a "life or a shrink" but in the end it dosent fix the problem.
The problem is the tags, or like we already both know, the lack of it.

I mean I hate NTR. Im one of these few people who dont like it at all, but I still played and still play some games who has the NTR tag...the reason behind it is that there is no NTR in the game but some scenes are misinterpreted at best and questionable at worst because its a Netori story (MC steals the GF/Wife of the douche etc)

And you dont need to be paranoid, if I shall believe what you wanted to say with the last sentence.
They are just angry because the game they seemed to like got tarnished by something they will never accept. Thats all.
Some people may accept some fuckery but not every one is like that.
And since they are human, they tend to show their frustration.
It just shows me they were more invested into this game then the people who were just "meh, not my type of game" and move on.

This whole NTR or what is really NTR debate is kinda pointless becaus in the end its the end product im interested in.
Thats why even NTR haters say you as the dev. should make the game you want. Even If you want to put NTR in a harem game its your decision. People will flame, but they wont do anything then that. There is no chancel culture regarding NTR people, not from what I know.

If I have a game like "Hiroki NTR" or "Wild Life" with some questionable content I dont use it as intented. I just download it, watch the scene, think im the guy who is fucking this girl, fap to it and then move on.
But if you have game where you want the readers to sit back and read through the VN they will obviously be offended by it.
Thats what you should keep in mind if you even wanted to make a game.
 

Futaket

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You don't have to do anything if you've already bought the hoodie. When you show up at the bar and are about to enter, it seems to me that he says "it's better to disguise myself before entering" (or something similar) and automatically he does everything.
Honest question are u gonna update ye incest patch? cuz the android porters waiting for it. If your not I could inform him it's not happening :) cuz i don't really mind not having incest tbh :)
 

Harem Trooper

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So, just to conclude my point of view, there are people who like 'x' and there are people who hate 'y'; 'x' is included in 'y', but 'y' is broader than 'x'; and both insist on calling 'y' and 'x' by 'z'... And that's the problem
I know, I never disagreed with you about this and many others here wont too.
Many here who had a problem with this also knows that many people tried to suggest at least what VNDB did with the NTR tags. Then lets be real, the NTR tag is the most who people have their problem with. They are not perfect but that would at least stop every game from getting into a rage war.
But nothing to this day happend and will probably never be. The only thing I see when some specific tags gets added or removed depending who the mod was.

hating when there are other characters banging on camera other than the MC
Im pretty sure every one who hates NTR dont care when they see this one girl gets railed by three black dudes on pornhub. Its just porn. In VN games, despite being porn too, are more emotional if I dare to say it.
And many wants to have a power fantasy, which is totaly ok. Thats the reason why many games have the option to change the MC name.
So by this when they see "their" LI gets fucked by others, they feel cucked even thats not really be that case. Like the Mom x Dad example. IMO, it all depends how its represented and more importantly, if this "NTR" is worth the while and outweigh the bad vs good elemets.
Sadly, most judgement happens when games are still in development and has not much to offer. This single scene can made people angry enough to complettly put this game into their ignore list, despite in the end this game could be what they wanted in the first place...but I cant blame them really for it.

But Im pretty sure many peope who hate these devs. who put any form of real NTR or something similiar of "NTR", will change their opinnion if lets say, you get in the end all of them. Or it turns out she never liked this NPC but you, or that she was forced.
However, from my experiences these tricks was never executed well which made the people more angry.
And now when they see at least one of such unpleasant scenes they know from their perspetive that:
A) This will continue this route or
B) its not worth the while because it was "just a sex scene" put for the sake of it.

"Silent War", despite being a Adult Manhwa, is a good example. In the beginning you have real NTR, which was not done for the sexual fetish but more of a cataclyst so we see the MC hardship and more importantly, hatred towards the Douche.
And from after a 1/3 of the story (its still ongoing) MC changes into a Chad and conquers Girl after Girl. And to this day its one best selling manhwa in east and west.
You see many NTR haters dont really have a problem because it happends, they hate it because its done so badly they dont see any difference if it was just for the story progression (which they will tolerate to some specific point) or if it was just for the fetish (which they will never tolerate).
 

bomj

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The book on aliens has disappeared from my inventory. Can't read it to progress in very close encounters quest
 
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vitorkody

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how do I do the "contact" and "addict" achievements?
I made 98% of the achievements, but these 2 are missing
 
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