VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.6.1b] [digi.B]

[byaaahh]

But do you think Ava could come back? I've read several posts about her, and in this update Kindra expressed some doubts about it. I don't know what to think. I don't even know if I'd like it. It depends on how something like that could be developed.

Imo it works better with her being dead. I mean maybe digi is able to come up with this awesome plot which involves her coming back and everything is coherent and enriches the story but i would doubt it. I feel like it would end up being a convoluted mess.

The "No body for repatriation" and the classified intel on her mission, makes me think she'll be back. Whether she was deep-cover or a PoW, either MC's dad (possibly the Major we see on some routes) or Kindra will negotiate on military contracts to reveal what happened.

 

[xapican]

i've always assumed that MC's moms is believed to be KIA (or most optimistically a POW in some 3rd world country)

she was on a Black Ops mission, and went silent, she was declared KIA hence the Mausoleum, they don't could retrive her body.

The "No body for repatriation" and the classified intel on her mission, makes me think she'll be back. Whether she was deep-cover or a PoW, either MC's dad (possibly the Major we see on some routes) or Kindra will negotiate on military contracts to reveal what happened.

what contribution could that possibly have to the story ? when MC mom comes back ? and if so would MC indulge in incest ?
You know what a hells kitchen the thread becomes if AvA comes back do you ?

 

[byaaahh]

If she does come back, will she kill the MC for selling all her guns?

 

[byaaahh]

what contribution could that possibly have to the story ? when MC mom comes back ? and if so would MC indulge in incest ?
You know what a hells kitchen the thread becomes if AvA comes back do you ?

Only person who brought up fucking her was you, buddy.

God forbid the MC who has been through a lot of shit get a win by his mother returning.

 

[gino.pilotino]

Only person who brought up fucking her was you, buddy.

God forbid the MC who has been through a lot of shit get a win by his mother returning.

Anyway, I wasn't talking about possible incest, but about how something so absurd could be realistically introduced into the story. Realistically, in a story where we have androids that lose their arms.

 

[xapican]

Only person who brought up fucking her was you, buddy.

God forbid the MC who has been through a lot of shit get a win by his mother returning.

Well yes, and no, the question was meant more provocative, there had been a lot of coments, expresing that, still, MC has closure, already and her demise serves as a point in comon to bring Kindra and MC closer, more probable scenario is that Kindra and June Investigate to get confirmation.
MC is building his emotional backup, already.
But anyway witch benefit would have MC ? and what role could she probably play in the Story ?
gino.pilotino ; wasn't talking about you you were clear.

 

[byaaahh]

Well yes, and no, the question was meant more provocative, there had been a lot of coments, expresing that, still, MC has closure, already and her demise serves as a point in comon to bring Kindra and MC closer, more probable scenario is that Kindra and June Investigate to get confirmation.
MC is building his emotional backup, already.
But anyway witch benefit would have MC ? and what role could she probably play in the Story ?

What role could she play?

Mother to MC, motherly figure to Kindra, Head of Security for Kapuletti Industries, train Artemis for combat, giving Cassie the well deserved cunt-punt.

We also wouldn't have MC sulking every time Naomi brings up guns, or when he hikes through a forest, or when he eats meatballs...

 

[xapican]

Those are all good points, and possible scenarios, on the downside, It feels like you don't think MC and Kindra are mature enogh to face the challenge by themselves (to grow up)
regarding Artemis, i don't think MC and Kindra want to weaponize her, there have been a lot of hints that they want the Androids to fullfill humanitarian tasks.
In my eyes MC and Kindra have to put Cassie in her place, she is their Demon.
The process of grief is something which goes over many years, and it is inevitable that you are remembered to comon activities with the person you lost.
Artemis is a story of overcoming, as I understood it.

 

[gino.pilotino]

What role could she play?

Mother to MC, motherly figure to Kindra, Head of Security for Kapuletti Industries, train Artemis for combat, giving Cassie the well deserved cunt-punt.

We also wouldn't have MC sulking every time Naomi brings up guns, or when he hikes through a forest, or when he eats meatballs...

That makes sense once she's back. But how do you get her back without it seeming forced?

 

[Krytax123]

What role could she play?

Mother to MC, motherly figure to Kindra, Head of Security for Kapuletti Industries, train Artemis for combat, giving Cassie the well deserved cunt-punt.

We also wouldn't have MC sulking every time Naomi brings up guns, or when he hikes through a forest, or when he eats meatballs...

Yeah okay, you have convinced me, i would like quite a few of these points, fuck you

I was so content with her being gone

 

[xapican]

That makes sense once she's back. But how do you get her back without it seeming forced?

The fundation is already laid, with June and Kindra wanting to investigate further and trying to bring MC to see his father who potentially can shed light into the story.

 

[byaaahh]

That makes sense once she's back. But how do you get her back without it seeming forced?

I've always felt there was a possibility she could be back. The secrecy behind her death, reinforced in the latest update that no body was recovered. Not that hard to bridge that gap with a cliché "Prisoner of War" story.

Or we could go way left field and say TWR have her body and she is effectively Robocop (but named HUNTER for copyright reasons).

 

[gino.pilotino]

The fundation is already laid, with June and Kindra wanting to investigate further and trying to bring MC to see his father who potentially can shed light into the story.

I don't know. That's where I started, actually. I'm afraid it will ruin the story if Digi doesn't have an extremely good idea to develop.

 

[xapican]

Yeah okay, you have convinced me, i would like quite a few of these points, fuck you

I was so content with her being gone

someone is easy swayed .....
I'd like to see what happens in this thread if Digi brings her in a wholesome role back

 

[Ciaran8023]

I really don't think Kindra and June questioning shit will lead anywhere, not every sentence in a VN has to bear fruition, and even if it did, I think there's an even smaller chance of her being somehow alive rather than them accidentally stumbling upon some evidence of foul play or some shit like that.

As noted, there's just been too much built around his mom for her to come back. Having someone go KIA especially in covert ops is VERY common when it comes to deaths within military.

 

[Krytax123]

The fundation is already laid, with June and Kindra wanting to investigate further and trying to bring MC to see his father who potentially can shed light into the story.

The problem is kinda:

She would have to be hold captive or something for the whole time.

Her being "just" undercover while her son was not even half a step away from suicide and thinking shes dead is ... not mother of the year behavior.

So there would have to be some kind of situation where ava was unable to ever make contact with him which sounds kinda far-fetched. I mean ... maybe she was 8 years in some taliban dungeon or something ... ?

But i feel like if that would be the case, the avn would need to be about how to help/heal/support ava an nothing else lol and im not sure we want such a huge distraction from the story.

 

[Maccabbee]

The problem is kinda:

She would have to be hold captive or something for the whole time.

Her being "just" undercover while her son was not even half a step away from suicide and thinking shes dead is ... not mother of the year behavior.

So there would have to be some kind of situation where ava was unable to ever make contact with him which sounds kinds far-fetched. I mean ... maybe she was 8 years in some taliban dungeon or something ... ?

But i feel like if that would be the case, the avn would need to be about how to help/heal/support ava an nothing else lol and im not sure we want such a huge distraction from the story.

Well, that's just dumb. How would she know anything going on back at home if she's either a prisoner, on deep undercover, or lost in the wilderness. Undercover agents on assignments have no contact with anyone but their handler. I doubt she's on something like that, or she would have prepared something to take care of him.

 

[byaaahh]

The problem is kinda:

She would have to be hold captive or something for the whole time.

Her being "just" undercover while her son was not even half a step away from suicide and thinking shes dead is ... not mother of the year behavior.

So there would have to be some kind of situation where ava was unable to ever make contact with him which sounds kinda far-fetched. I mean ... maybe she was 8 years in some taliban dungeon or something ... ?

But i feel like if that would be the case, the avn would need to be about how to help/heal/support ava an nothing else lol and im not sure we want such a huge distraction from the story.

I mean MC only got suicidal after he sold all his Mom's shit to fund a project, which his long-term girlfriend fucked him out of. Not that this means much but the deep-cover situation is highly unlikely as she's a Marine, not a spy. Soo if she's a prisoner, she wouldn't know anything.

 

[Krytax123]

Well, that's just dumb. How would she know anything going on back at home if she's either a prisoner, on deep undercover, or lost in the wilderness. Undercover agents on assignments have no contact with anyone but their handler. I doubt she's on something like that, or she would have prepared something to take care of him.

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I think you misunderstoood my comment? I stated why i deem it very unlikely that shes still alive.

Edit: byaaahh yeah as i said, but if she was a prisoner for 8 years, how much of the points of her contributing to the story will she be able to achieve? She would need A LOT of support and help herself in that case. I doubt she would be in any condition to be the head of security for example.

 

[xapican]

Well, you have a point there Krytax123 ; But Maybe in the Epiloge she apears, that would even fit with all the branches of this stroy.