VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.6.2b] [digi.B]

[karumi56]

No the Updates were always slow. Chapter 5 took a year and Chapter 4 10 Months

A little bit of math to give some perspective on the update history. Original release was March 2021. The last content update was October 2023. During that time there where 4 major content releases...over 31 months. That averages to 7.75 months per update. Even though the later ones took longer, the update pace was pretty decent for big, chonky updates.

I totally understand the current release delay. I completely empathize with the dev's ordeal; I went through something very similar. That said, it's 16 months since the last content update. At 18 months, titles usually get flagged as abandoned if there is no update, even if the dev is actively communicating about the work they're doing. That would be bad. The good news is the beta seems to have progressed well and an update is expected soon, before that would happen.

My concern is what happens with the next update. I love this game. I really hope it continues and gets completed in a reasonable amount of time. For that to happen, the future updates need to be released somewhat closer to the old average amount of time. Hopefully the update is great and things progress quickly with the next one.

 

[Fuzzy Nuts J]

I wont respond to this again becasue their is no point, but apparenty you all were oblivious to the last two years of this game. Two years of nothing. I will not return to this thread. So spit all the venom you want.

Oh no, he's taking his toys and going home. whatever will we do without him.

 

[Onibaku]

A little bit of math to give some perspective on the update history. Original release was March 2021. The last content update was October 2023. During that time there where 4 major content releases...over 31 months. That averages to 7.75 months per update. Even though the later ones took longer, the update pace was pretty decent for big, chonky updates.

I totally understand the current release delay. I completely empathize with the dev's ordeal; I went through something very similar. That said, it's 16 months since the last content update. At 18 months, titles usually get flagged as abandoned if there is no update, even if the dev is actively communicating about the work they're doing. That would be bad. The good news is the beta seems to have progressed well and an update is expected soon, before that would happen.

My concern is what happens with the next update. I love this game. I really hope it continues and gets completed in a reasonable amount of time. For that to happen, the future updates need to be released somewhat closer to the old average amount of time. Hopefully the update is great and things progress quickly with the next one.

I think most people can empathize with him and that's why there is not much outrage over the development time. What made me lose my enthusiasm for the development of this project was his Christmas estimate release day. I mean if the beta goes well it will be 3 months late. So it either means he is catastrophically bad at estimation, he lied and he never intended to release it in December or he could have released it in December but didn't do shit between the announcement and Christmas. Either way it makes him untrustworthy.

 

[Krytax123]

How many renders and animations are in the new update?

 

[Onibaku]

How many renders and animations are in the new update?

5-6k renders

 

[Krytax123]

I think most people can empathize with him and that's why there is not much outrage over the development time. What made me lose my enthusiasm for the development of this project was his Christmas estimate release day. I mean if the beta goes well it will be 3 months late. So it either means he is catastrophically bad at estimation, he lied and he never intended to release it in December or he could have released it in December but didn't do shit between the announcement and Christmas. Either way it makes him untrustworthy.

Thats just artists lol

I dont really mind slow development (i would never sub all year long anyway and only in update months) but artemis is a case which makes you wonder how good and successful it could be with a proper development speed.

5-6k renders

Thanks

 

[Lathe29]

I wont respond to this again becasue their is no point, but apparenty you all were oblivious to the last two years of this game. Two years of nothing. I will not return to this thread. So spit all the venom you want.

You are not an airplane, you do not need to announce your departure.

 

[Tremonia]

Generally expect 2 updates per Presidential cycle.

Five updates in four years, plus release and the next one is coming the next weeks. I don't know about your cycle over there but math should be more important in your education system.

Posting facts not jokes.

Alex Jones, is it you?

 

[DivineMachine]

I wont respond to this again becasue their is no point, but apparenty you all were oblivious to the last two years of this game. Two years of nothing. I will not return to this thread. So spit all the venom you want.

But oh no. What are we gonna do without your math skills if you leave us?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Five updates in four years, plus release and the next one is coming the next weeks. I don't know about your cycle over there but math should be more important in your education system.
Alex Jones, is it you?

NEOSPORIN!!! We need Neosporin here STAT!!!

 

[xapican]

NEOSPORIN!!! We need Neosporin here STAT!!!

wouldn't it be better, just to use a Sanitary Rifle instead ??

 

[Cabin Fever]

I think most people can empathize with him and that's why there is not much outrage over the development time. What made me lose my enthusiasm for the development of this project was his Christmas estimate release day. I mean if the beta goes well it will be 3 months late. So it either means he is catastrophically bad at estimation, he lied and he never intended to release it in December or he could have released it in December but didn't do shit between the announcement and Christmas. Either way it makes him untrustworthy.

Oh come on now. You aren't exactly new around F95. With just about every high quality game around here, if a release date estimate does not include an explicit release date, take it with a huge grain silo of salt.

 

[Onibaku]

Oh come on now. You aren't exactly new around F95. With just about every high quality game around here, if a release date estimate does not include an explicit release date, take it with a huge grain silo of salt.

There was an explicit date 24 Dec Christmas. I expected a delay but not a 1/4 of a year delay. Maybe i just had to much faith in digi.b of actually fulfilling what he said himself. If i was just pirated the game i probably would not give to much of fuck. I did cancel my pledge and will wait here for the update

 

[Cabin Fever]

There was an explicit date 24 Dec Christmas. I expected a delay but not a 1/4 of a year delay. Maybe i just had to much faith in digi.b of actually fulfilling what he said himself.

Fair enough. I must have missed that post. Ignore me then. Move along. Nothing to see here...

 

[xapican]

Inpatience, exitation apart, I fail to see why the Update frecuency, is so important? more so if it was handled openly from the Developer, and his most closest comunity.
We're are bashing the cycles now for almost a few months, did it change anything ? improve the render quality ? the script ?
and I'm not talking about those members who voice their opinion once, to be clear here.

 

[katabasi]

soon tm?

 

[Rehwyn]

Fair enough. I must have missed that post. Ignore me then. Move along. Nothing to see here...

To be clear, digi.B never promised a Christmas release or said they "will" release for Christmas, just that they were estimating a Christmas release and were trying their very best to hit that target. I've commented on this before a previous time it came up.

Obviously delays are no fun and this one has been pretty long, but at no point did I get the impression digi.B has broken their word or not delivered on something they promised. And as it started to become apparent in November that it would likely take longer, they were transparent that they probably weren't going to hit that estimate rather than waiting until the last minute.

 

[Cabin Fever]

To be clear, digi.B never promised a Christmas release or said they "will" release for Christmas, just that they were estimating a Christmas release and were trying their very best to hit that target. I've commented on this before a previous time it came up.

Obviously delays are no fun and this one has been pretty long, but at no point did I get the impression digi.B has broken their word or not delivered on something they promised. And as it started to become apparent in November that it would likely take longer, they were transparent that they probably weren't going to hit that estimate rather than waiting until the last minute.

Ok thx that's closer to what my remaining 2 brain cells could remember.

 

[slick97]

Inpatience, exitation apart, I fail to see why the Update frecuency, is so important? more so if it was handled openly from the Developer, and his most closest comunity.
We're are bashing the cycles now for almost a few months, did it change anything ? improve the render quality ? the script ?
and I'm not talking about those members who voice their opinion once, to be clear here.

Update frequency is a good metric for gauging whether it's worth it to support a developer on their project. If you release an update with 2k+ renders every year it's harder to interpolate if someone still enjoys the content enough to continue support; whereas splitting that same update into 1k+ renders every 6 months gives supporters a better idea.

As for the quality of the renders and story... It's definitely one of the better projects out there. Digi.B has maintained consistency in character personalities, subplots, and quality of renders. I personally feel he's a bit too ambitious given the flashy animations and allowing player's to shape Artemis' personality, but those are entirely subjective opinions.

 

[Rehwyn]

Regardless of how sure he stated he felt about it, the post still explicitly called it an estimate of Christmas and that they were trying to hit it. That's very different then saying Christmas is the release date and they are confident they will hit it. I always assume an estimate is going to change until it's no longer called an estimate, particularly if that estimate is months away.

Agreed that 3 months is a longer delay than I expected (I mentioned a few weeks delay in my older post). But again, never did I think it was a promise of Christmas.