Vakul

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Because it will be leaked, people will beat it before Steam release and most won't even bother supporting dev after.
People nowadays aren't paying for playing games, they pay for a novelty. Like sheep buying new COD or FIFA every year just because it's new and "every cool kid now playing it". When hype dies no one cares anymore.
U-huh, filthy piretes ruining it all? Really?
First - I said "releasing for his patrons", not making it free for everyone. Patrons ave him money specially for that - for the game.
Second - those who pays for fifa/cod every year I dont wan't to judge. Some people are just so dumb enough, so let them suffer their imbecilic behaviour. And about access early=not paying later - yeah, half of steam early acces titles says hello.
 

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First - I said "releasing for his patrons", not making it free for everyone. Patrons ave him money specially for that - for the game.
Eh, Patreon is voluntarily donations and Mirthal aren't owe them anything. When you want to buy the game you go to the store, not to some scammer cesspool where nothing is guaranteed (except lack of spicy stuff).
U-huh, filthy piretes ruining it all? Really?
More like people being people. Would be hypocritical to blame pirates being on pirate site. It's just a fact that he will lose some sales by releasing early on Patreon and Itch, and any sane person would care more about money than about feelings of some dumb fucks who supported him for years :LOL:
 
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Vakul

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They have a rule tho that other platforms can't be cheaper than Steam, and it's also inclues distributing the game for free to Patrons...
Some devs partialy comply locking full builds behind tiers that costs more than Steam price, or only offering previous builds for free, but I think its also bannable.
Really? Well...Nope.

Minimum Pricing Thresholds section.
Eh, Patreon is voluntarily donations and Mirthal aren't owe them anything. When you want to buy the game you go to the store, not to some scammer cesspool where nothing is guaranteed (except lack of spicy stuff).
Wordplay. Technically - yes, you pay to support. But I really doubt anyone will be happy to pay a hefty sum just to read "you know, thank you and all that, go buy on steam now." If he's going to pull that joke, well good luck with keeping his patrons then.
 
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This is how the dev himself explains it:
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Yeah, right.
And also regarding Steam:
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Anyway, going back to the original twitter post
I've just been informed that Steam has this protocol in which they might do a "check" on games once you hit the release state (even if they already did several checks prior), which they've told me it can take on average 1-3 business days.
It seems strange. Like how can he be out of the loop on this?

Also I'm sure patrons themselves aren't very happy about this situation, could someone share some actual comments from there?
 
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What you linked can neither confirm nor deny it. Nothing about price parity.

But there is ongoing lawsuit about Valve allegedly forcing devs to set same price:



And there some rules about keys:
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So yeah Valve is a good guy, but you don't want to mess with them and trying to scam them or Steam users, that one they state clearly. Even big publishers like EA or Ubisoft offer similar prices and deals for their games on Steam, because they know they will be kicked out for not playing nicely.

So yeah if you offer your game "for free" to 5$ Patrons, but it's sold for like 10$ on Steam you are in a trouble. And I doubt it matters how long people paid said price and how much they was milked before :ROFLMAO:
 
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today is 26th of November in my country as of now its 3:33am and been patiently waiting for the game's full release. how much more hours i must endure?
my understanding is that the game isn't released yet but when it does a kind soul still has to post it here. So could be a while. I'll be checking back in a week.
 
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And there some rules about keys:
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So yeah Valve is a good guy, but you don't want to mess with them and trying to scam them or Steam users, that one they state clearly. Even big publishers like EA or Ubisoft offer similar prices and deals for their games on Steam, because they know they will be kicked out for not playing nicely.

So yeah if you offer your game "for free" to 5$ Patrons, but it's sold for like 10$ on Steam you are in a trouble. And I doubt it matters how long people paid said price and how much they was milked before :ROFLMAO:
This only applies to sells of STEAM KEYS. Not to direct download on a Patreon.
If they were using Patreon to distribute steam keys it would apply
 

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my understanding is that the game isn't released yet but when it does a kind soul still has to post it here. So could be a while. I'll be checking back in a week.
If half of what is on this thread is true, then should be after december 1st so it catches the next patreon month billing cycle
 

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I find it strange that i never heard of a single dev speaking of steam game delays over checks, and mirthal is now talking about bleeding of the next week. Very interesting indeed!
 
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Vakul

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This is how the dev himself explains it:
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Ok that is the answer then. If he post same thing on patreon then it makes sense, nobody is complaining there - coz it is his desicion, not some kind of random thing.
What you linked can neither confirm nor deny it. Nothing about price parity.

But there is ongoing lawsuit about Valve allegedly forcing devs to set same price:



And there some rules about keys:
View attachment 4269033

So yeah Valve is a good guy, but you don't want to mess with them and trying to scam them or Steam users, that one they
Valve is one of many stores and if their rules clearly says "keys", then it would be hard to use it another way in the court.
What bugs me is the fact only small no-name company knows about such unfair policy and no other dev has ever mentioned it EVER.
 

Vakul

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I find it strange that i never heard of a single dev speaking of steam game delays over checks, and mirthal is now talking about bleeding of the next week. Very interesting indeed!
No I heard it more than once. What's odd is that it surprised the dev himself, while he even has experianced publisher. But is quite common. Maybe you don't hear about it very often because usually checks go way faster. But here in the case ofporn game they must check the content more thoroughly. You know - if there happen to be a 300 y.o. goddes with tiny titty and frail frame - the world may collapse coz of some shiny moral knights start to explode with unnatural force. So more checks needed.
 

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No I heard it more than once. What's odd is that it surprised the dev himself, while he even has experianced publisher. But is quite common. Maybe you don't hear about it very often because usually checks go way faster. But here in the case ofporn game they must check the content more thoroughly. You know - if there happen to be a 300 y.o. goddes with tiny titty and frail frame - the world may collapse coz of some shiny moral knights start to explode with unnatural force. So more checks needed.
Not sure, i've played a bunch of new released hentai/porn games in steam and the dates that are posted for launch ALWAYS go through, no delays, no devs complaining about check delays. So i have no idea what this is about
 

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All this time, all this development then he has a set release date for months. Whoop-dee-doop-dee-doo Steam didn't test it yet folks. Critical Bliss who released several games, never mentioned any of that. No other publishers or developers had problems like that. Scott Cawthon the creator of FNAF used to jumpscare people with full game releases back in the day. Without mentioning it to anybody. Only Mirthal is hit by these unusual, very strange circumstances.
 

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No I heard it more than once. What's odd is that it surprised the dev himself, while he even has experianced publisher. But is quite common. Maybe you don't hear about it very often because usually checks go way faster. But here in the case ofporn game they must check the content more thoroughly. You know - if there happen to be a 300 y.o. goddes with tiny titty and frail frame - the world may collapse coz of some shiny moral knights start to explode with unnatural force. So more checks needed.
"I'm afraid I will have to give this game a more...thorough check," he said while unzipping his pants. That's how I imagine evaluation of porn game now. The more they can fap to it, the longer it stays in evaluation limbo.
 

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All this time, all this development then he has a set release date for months. Whoop-dee-doop-dee-doo Steam didn't test it yet folks. Critical Bliss who released several games, never mentioned any of that. No other publishers or developers had problems like that. Scott Cawthon the creator of FNAF used to jumpscare people with full game releases back in the day. Without mentioning it to anybody. Only Mirthal is hit by these unusual, very strange circumstances.
Sause for the two gifs?
 
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