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RPGM Completed Azurite Lewd Contract in NTR Guild [Final] [Misokko Company]

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Iexist

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I'm not sure I'd call that scenario the oldest form of NTR in either fiction or real life. Wouldn't money, power, and status predate all those things? Also, didn't people not give a shit about women enjoying sex for a very long time?
We're talking about NTR as a fetish here, not specifically situations where a woman or man is taken from their partner. If the partner leaves another over those things willingly, that's a matter of a gold-digger type personality, rather than getting brainwashed into doing it. Or addicted or whatever. Obviously, getting kidnaped or manipulated because of the mentioned things is also another matter entirely.

I know that NTR, or netorare, is can be translated as "to be taken" or some such, but the fetish itself has more nuance than that.

I concede the point that historically, it may have deeper, stranger roots. But in the current context, I was primarily referring to NTR as understood in modern hentai in the past 50-ish years or so?

As for the thing about pleasure... Depends on where you look. I don't know the exact details about how that went in Japan... but I will point out that the Kama Sutra is NOT a new book and it originated in India. Asian culture overall was a tad different with some of these things than Western culture.
 

Creiz

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This shouldn't have the NTR tag when your PoV is from the one being stolen... That's just sexual harassment, rape and cheating (once it becomes willing).
Vast majority of Japanese hentai games that call themselves "NTR" actually aren't. The "NTR" is just a handwaving excuse for the main point: The thorough humiliation and degradation of the woman. It's like "unobtainium", a plot device that exists just to move the story forward and then discarded almost immediately.
Almost all the female protagonist games I have played that are tagged as NTR was not NTR because I have never seen their boyfriends/husbands stolen from them by a "better" woman.
Those are harem games lol. Almost every single woman that isn't the "childhood friend" is a better woman and they're all trying to get with the pathetic beta MC for some unknown reason.

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We all know that whenever there's a hentai with "ntr", what you should expect going in is too see a decent woman being turned into a cumrag, not the nuances of cuckoldry or cheating, etc. If you want true NTR, I'd suggest you play Western type porn games for that, the DAZ ones. Those made with Koikatu or HoneySelect are often made by weebs and inspired by hentai, so they tend to follow the same tropes. Those made with DAZ or their own art, however, tend to follow Western tropes so they put a lot more of attention in the lore and the nuances of fetishes.

Basically? It's simple:

Asian style hentai: Focus on humiliation, degradation and corruption of a woman.
Western style porn: Focus on the MC, the actual fetish and its consequences, lore.

Obviously it's not *always* like that, you can find gems in hentai and duds in porn, but this is a good general rule of thumb.
 

Sintheta

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So... could the heroine whore herself like becoming nympho?
No this game isn't anywhere complex enough to have anything like that.

I think getting scenes in this game goes as follows:

-Each dungeon clear unlocks a new scene at the castle
-Each scene at the castle requires a certain amount of losses with the respective party member (I didn't count, but somehow, it intuitively feels this way)
-There's only 2 defeat scenes per character regardless of NTR progress (which is a bit weird depending on your NTR stage)
-There's only 1 Game over scene from losing to bosses
-I think there's 3 endings (not counting the boss GO) with 2 NTR endings and the non-NTR ending
 
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Ferghus

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We're talking about NTR as a fetish here, not specifically situations where a woman or man is taken from their partner. If the partner leaves another over those things willingly, that's a matter of a gold-digger type personality, rather than getting brainwashed into doing it. Or addicted or whatever. Obviously, getting kidnaped or manipulated because of the mentioned things is also another matter entirely.

I know that NTR, or netorare, is can be translated as "to be taken" or some such, but the fetish itself has more nuance than that.

I concede the point that historically, it may have deeper, stranger roots. But in the current context, I was primarily referring to NTR as understood in modern hentai in the past 50-ish years or so?

As for the thing about pleasure... Depends on where you look. I don't know the exact details about how that went in Japan... but I will point out that the Kama Sutra is NOT a new book and it originated in India. Asian culture overall was a tad different with some of these things than Western culture.
Didn't Zeus cuck a bunch of dudes and sire tons of bastard children (that Hera keeps smiting) while transformed as all manners of animals or whatever? I don't think you can get any more NTR'd than having your wife impregnated by a literal god.
 
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Iexist

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Didn't Zeus cuck a bunch of dudes and sire tons of bastard children (that Hera keeps smiting) while transformed as all manners of animals or whatever? I don't think you can get any more NTR'd than having your wife impregnated by a literal god.
No, the women in question were literally just rape victims. I don't think there were many women who ever fell in love with Zeus in the myths, or followed him, or abandoned their people much less their husbands because of what he did. That's leaving aside the fact that Zeus tended to go for maidens more than wives. I'm reasonably sure he had a thing for virgins, or purity, or something. Basically, the more unattainable a beautiful woman was, the more likely it was that Zeus would go "What, no one else has tapped that? Hold my beer. I'm going in!"

As I said, NTR is more than just someone being fucked by someone other than their significant other. It's about the person in question willingly and completely leaving that significant other because of the sexual prowess of an outside party. Often enough with significant emotional trauma being inflicted on the significant other in question.

Sure, themes like NTR or whatever existed in some form or another for a long time, but you can't call it NTR just because it's superficially similar. Cheating is a separate fetish for a reason. Same for rape. NTR often combines these two things with the latter leading into the former and then leading into more.

Like. A car from 100 years ago and a car from modern times... they both have an engine and go on four wheels... but calling them the same thing is absolutely not gonna fly. This applies here too because cultures have changed in various ways. Can't forget that women were more akin to property than people back in those days. Greek mythology treated rape like it was whatever back in those days, because women's rights didn't exist and the difference between making love and rape was nonexistent and irrelevant.

It says something about the culture that the most ok relationship in all their myths is basically Hades and Persephone... and it started with the dude literally kidnapping her.
 

gordon101

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Man I love how whenever a new NTR game comes out there's always a bunch of people posting their thesis and dissertations on NTR and all that's related.

I'm not complaining, I just enjoy coming into NTR game threads to see what topic the class is discussing today.
true but anything with female main isn't NTR, most cases its just cheating, or being unfaithful, actual NTR is that woman is taken, if MC was male and other man came in to make girl get "game over" then it make sense
 
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SakuraKoi

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Man I love how whenever a new NTR game comes out there's always a bunch of people posting their thesis and dissertations on NTR and all that's related.

I'm not complaining, I just enjoy coming into NTR game threads to see what topic the class is discussing today.
Depending on your perspective (tehe~), you can thank or blame F95 for that since rather than removing the cause (bad tag definition/usage), they sometimes deign themselves to hide the symptoms (our class/us pointing out that their NTR is a bad tag).

If you want true NTR, I'd suggest you play Western type porn games for that, the DAZ ones.
But DAZ is fugly! Like 1000 years of plastic surgery!
Welp, luckily, whether it is 'true Scottish NTR' with a perspective that is not utterly pathetic and some more character/world building (and interaction) or Asian Greenhats who are less 'nuanced', the best iteration of the fetish is and always will be Reality. Of course, as everyone knows, it's also the most shitty game to play. Coincidence? I think not~
(Seriously, I can at least understand if someone enjoys to have a fight they can win)
 
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popober

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She's got a different design than most porn rpg protagonists, which got me interested. But it seems like there's nothing else of note about this game. Disappointing.
 
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Omae wa shinda

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simple, solo run the whole ordeal to avoid most ntr.

You still get fucked in face and boob though. i mean if you want complete ntr avoid is impossible unless you edit your character. Keeping yourself from getting fucked is already good enough.
 
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