VN Ren'Py Abandoned Babysitting Cream: BetaMix Edition [v0.3.5] [Novilon]

[fangwolf99]

they should make a shadow version in bsc instead sonic you play as shadow with twist he can use chaos control to frezz time think of the possibilitys when hes with cream

 

[FoxyTails]

they should make a shadow version in bsc instead sonic you play as shadow with twist he can use chaos control to frezz time think of the possibilitys when hes with cream

I guess it's a possibility but let's get a finished bug free version of the game first before thinking about modifications, afterall SWP is creating the AI generated graphics from scratch for the current characters while Gordzilla is concentrating tidying up the code (the mess made by other developers) & redesigning parts to remove existing bugs/glitches.

Having to rewrite the code & redo the graphics for a 'Shadow' main character would be a headache to do IMHO - there are so many different paths for the Sonic character at the moment, having to include just as many for a Shadow character as well ... well that's a lot to think about.

Not sure I'd like the Freeze time bit though... part of the joy of the game is to find the different ways to achieve things.. if you can 'just freeze time & do whatever you like' just seems like a cheaty thing to do

- Maybe Shadow could become a side character like Tails/Knuckles in a (possible) future update ? - maybe something to do with the 'light/dark paths' suggestions thats been made ?? or part of the unknown 'mystery' storyline ?? - who knows

 

[DoorFive]

Well...that was not what I expected. Are you Suuuuuuuuure?
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Upsetter of status quos, sower of dissent, harbinger of conflict, I, the unexpected jargon spouter does have but one punishment for thou!

Buy me this sonic ice cream! I wanna take those crazy balls and suck that blue boy off his stick.

Edit: this is getting outta hand I'll drop out here for fear of facing Eldritch mod magic

 

[sonicmaste]

Thanks everyone for the update on the situation, I definitely should contact them when I have time to work on it.
I don't have huge experience in renpy, but enough to know what I do, clearly.

 

[Pleevy]

Upsetter of status quos, sower of dissent, harbinger of conflict, I, the unexpected jargon spouter does have but one punishment for thou!

Buy me this sonic ice cream! I wanna take those crazy balls and suck that blue boy off his stick.

Edit: this is getting outta hand I'll drop out here for fear of facing Eldritch mod magic

Lovely Titles...


I haven't been able to find a sonic ice cream...Here's a lollipop to tide you over...oops...looks like Cream took it first...


This isn't out of hand yet....yet. I'll tell you when it has gotten out of hand!​

 

[Pleevy]

Thanks everyone for the update on the situation, I definitely should contact them when I have time to work on it.
I don't have huge experience in renpy, but enough to know what I do, clearly.

You have your marching orders!

Enjoy the insanity in the meantime!​

 

[Pleevy]

And now, at the risk of board clutter..."Happy" Singles Awareness day everyone.

Spoiler: For the singles...

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[deadxak]

I have already seen more than one version from different developers and not 10. I have a question. Anyone. When will this game end or will everyone just give up before reaching the end?

 

[Pleevy]

I have already seen more than one version from different developers and not 10. I have a question. Anyone. When will this game end or will everyone just give up before reaching the end?

I suspect the answer requires some...perhaps context? What is an acceptable "end"? For example, there are achievements, and if they all work in game, then getting them all can be an "end." Then there is an underlying story that goes from start to finish in the time frame of the game...so it already has AN end in that sense...but gauging whether it is "good enough" or qualifies as an end in the way you mean, may vary person to person.

If I read things right, those working on it now are looking to "finish" the current iteration up to a level of completion using the current underlying story and general mechanics, while updating the graphics for the naughty players, producing a "complete" version, (Which could qualify as an "end") and as part of doing so, fixing/changing the under the hood stuff in a positive way to be able to expand/make better/make new versions easier.

I cannot speak for them specifically, or this project specifically, but for myself...working on something alone is always hard, and it is easier to "give up before reaching the end" without others for support/interest etc, (or at least funding in some cases/circumstances) and any of those things lacking may have contributed to any number of people picking it up and then letting it go by the wayside.

 

[deadxak]

I suspect the answer requires some...perhaps context? What is an acceptable "end"? For example, there are achievements, and if they all work in game, then getting them all can be an "end." Then there is an underlying story that goes from start to finish in the time frame of the game...so it already has AN end in that sense...but gauging whether it is "good enough" or qualifies as an end in the way you mean, may vary person to person.

If I read things right, those working on it now are looking to "finish" the current iteration up to a level of completion using the current underlying story and general mechanics, while updating the graphics for the naughty players, producing a "complete" version, (Which could qualify as an "end") and as part of doing so, fixing/changing the under the hood stuff in a positive way to be able to expand/make better/make new versions easier.

I cannot speak for them specifically, or this project specifically, but for myself...working on something alone is always hard, and it is easier to "give up before reaching the end" without others for support/interest etc, (or at least funding in some cases/circumstances) and any of those things lacking may have contributed to any number of people picking it up and then letting it go by the wayside.

all versions have a beginning and an end when the girl's mother arrives. But what do I mean by the final product? In a visual novel, the visual is important. No animations or anything else are needed. Just instead of a ton of text in some moments. Give pictures. For example, the scene with Knuckles and Cream. Or what happens during the action in front of the TV. That's all.

 

[Pleevy]

all versions have a beginning and an end when the girl's mother arrives. But what do I mean by the final product? In a visual novel, the visual is important. No animations or anything else are needed. Just instead of a ton of text in some moments. Give pictures. For example, the scene with Knuckles and Cream. Or what happens during the action in front of the TV. That's all.

Gotcha. So, by end, you mean a graphically complete iteration. Well...again, its dangerous to speak on behalf of others, but my understanding of those working on it here, is that is the plan, even if I did not express it well in the first response. I said "updating the graphics" which is part of it, but also adding graphics, filling in the gaps of things without graphics. If you go back several pages I think they shared some AI generated content that might suit your fancy.

 

[deadxak]

Gotcha. So, by end, you mean a graphically complete iteration. Well...again, its dangerous to speak on behalf of others, but my understanding of those working on it here, is that is the plan, even if I did not express it well in the first response. I said "updating the graphics" which is part of it, but also adding graphics, filling in the gaps of things without graphics. If you go back several pages I think they shared some AI generated content that might suit your fancy.

I once heard that the best author of LO content was attracted to this game Soulcential. But it seems that this is just a rumor.

 

[Pleevy]

Anyone else see that a couple of my posts have just disappeared? I am confuzzled...

 

[LastnameDude]

here is something done on TENSORART

Spoiler: ;)

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[Sonic115]

Really weird, now it works. I must've made a mistake with caching or something.

So if Gordzilla / SWP are open to non-story related suggestions, I would like to suggest to add this to vars.rpy line 187:

     play music "audio/music/main_theme.mp3" loop

And to remove "stop music" from living.rpy line 5, otherwise the music stops if you summoned Cream in the living room.

In that way the music continues after loading a save. If people get crazy by the repetition, they can mute the music in preferences without affecting other sounds.

YEEEEEEEEEES THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WANTING. Someone please make this happen!!!!

 

[FoxyTails]

So if Gordzilla / SWP are open to non-story related suggestions, I would like to suggest to add this to vars.rpy line 187:

     play music "audio/music/main_theme.mp3" loop

And to remove "stop music" from living.rpy line 5, otherwise the music stops if you summoned Cream in the living room.

In that way the music continues after loading a save. If people get crazy by the repetition, they can mute the music in preferences without affecting other sounds.

Just to add (based on your results) I've found 1 extra bit to change (so far)
in 'script.rpy' line 195 there's a 'stop music fadeout 5.5'
- removing this (seems like you can edit using just notepad++) allows music to play continuously if you start from scratch

So IF you want constant music, try unzipping these 3 files into the /game/ folder - I suggest you back up the original files first just in case - and (hopefully) you should now have constant main music & music when loading in a save


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[Pleevy]

Just to add (based on your results) I've found 1 extra bit to change (so far)
in 'script.rpy' line 195 there's a 'stop music fadeout 5.5'
- removing this (seems like you can edit using just notepad++) allows music to play continuously if you start from scratch

So IF you want constant music, try unzipping these 3 files into the /game/ folder - I suggest you back up the original files first just in case - and (hopefully) you should now have constant main music & music when loading in a save

Quechin! Since you have been looking at the code related to music. I was thinking of changing/adding to the repeatable music, maybe take a playlist of songs and make them into a single long mp3, rename it and replace the main_theme.mp3 with it...but I wouldn't want to do so if there were other triggers other than like ending the day that would start it over (meaning only hearing the first song over an over, which defeats the purpose of the change to the file with a longer set of music.) I assume this is an easier DIY fix than asking about coding a playlist/multiple songs for the one item. Note: I had all but forgotten what the music was until I went and poked around in there are you were talking about in the game files, having muted things of this nature by default...

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[Pleevy]

here is something done on TENSORART

Showoff! (Translation? Give us Moar!!!)

Spoiler: I generate stuff, but lack the consistency/continuity...

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[MrFluffums]

Quechin! Since you have been looking at the code related to music. I was thinking of changing/adding to the repeatable music, maybe take a playlist of songs and make them into a single long mp3, rename it and replace the main_theme.mp3 with it...but I wouldn't want to do so if there were other triggers other than like ending the day that would start it over (meaning only hearing the first song over an over, which defeats the purpose of the change to the file with a longer set of music.) I assume this is an easier DIY fix than asking about coding a playlist/multiple songs for the one item. Note: I had all but forgotten what the music was until I went and poked around in there are you were talking about in the game files, having muted things of this nature by default...

I can say that code wise, 'buying girl scout cookies' and giving Cream a special hug 15 times will definitely stop the music forcing a reload if you want to have music (as they start playing porn groove music), and I think that's it, but I can't guarantee it.

If you want to be really fancy, you can do:

$ length_of_music_in_seconds=240 # the length of your custom audio track in seconds
$ starttime = renpy.random.randint(0, length_of_music_in_seconds) # this'll choose a random starting point
play music f"<from {starttime}>audio/music/main_theme.mp3" loop # this starts the music from that point

in vars.rpy to get a different starting point of the music any time you save / load the game (loading the same save should always give the same starting point though, if the document on renpy.random is correct)

Ending the day doesn't restart the music btw, the new day sound is just a sound effect not music, so it doesn't stop the main music.

Disclaimer: I have some experience with Ren'Py now since September, but really only limited to what I've been actively using for my own game. For my own Ren'Py game I basically just have one looping music track, there are no other sound effects (because finding royalty free music / sound effects is a real pain).

 

[FoxyTails]

I can say that code wise, 'buying girl scout cookies' and giving Cream a special hug 15 times will definitely stop the music forcing a reload if you want to have music (as they start playing porn groove music), and I think that's it, but I can't guarantee it.

Thanks - I KNEW there was porn music play, but couldnt remember what caused it .
Anyway, I've 'updated' my zip file to include 2 extra rpy scripts (overworld and vanilla).

In Vanilla I've change the script to restart main_theme after the Cream hugs (line 152) and Scout cookies (line 697) - basically the porn music plays as normal but after the event then music starts playing from the start

In Overworld, I noticed once you slept you can't hear the sunrise sound over the music so I added a 'stop music' (line247) and a restart (Line 257) so that you can

Once again, backup your original RPY files & unzip/replace with the new ones.

DISCLAIMER: I know NOTHING about Renpy, I just know how to edit Text files .
I have no plans to compete with current developers, just like experimenting & offer what little help I can to get this game finished

MrFluffums: FYI, there are places you can search for 'royalty free music' - such as

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- as long as the music has a 'creative commons' licence you can usually use it quite freely with the only condition that I know of is that you MUST credit the owner somehow.
In the case of the website I spoke of, when you download you get a popup with what needs to be included in the credits - a simple cut/paste then adding it to an 'About' or 'Credits' option on your games main screen I guess would suffice