VN Ren'Py Abandoned Babysitting Cream: BetaMix Edition [v0.3.5] [Novilon]

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FoxyTails

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Honestly, I prefer the characters drawn by AvalonX....
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Part of the problem though is Avalon only did a limited amount of hand drawn/scanned in graphics & there's a LOT of scenes that have none.. unless either Avalon decides to come back & draw new graphics or there a VERY talented artist that could replicate his style (mind you if you look at his 'style' it does vary a lot anyway) then AI is really the only way to go, however from what I've been finding out it is possible to teach AI art styles so if someone could take time to teach an AI the style of Avalon then there still a possibility.

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I don't know what Novaca been doing but I know his versions are tweaked/cleaned up existing Avalon graphics. Whatever he has been doing I don't know if it would also allow new graphics creation ? only he knows

But I have to admit that AI can significantly reduce the workload, so I'm not opposed to AI creations.
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Thanks - AI does help even if you just experimenting. Even if I don't get the right prompt for a graphic, I can also get AI search results to summarize what prompt may work better

I'm also grateful that the author is
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Cough.. cough.. 'author(s) are'
continuing to work on this game.

If I really need to use AI images in the future, I'll probably choose the Foxy version shown in the post.
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Thanks for that, I'm no artist or even an AI expert, & doing experiments in my spare time, so my attempts will also have variations just like Avalon's but I'm trying LOL, but nice to know my experimenting is getting a 'like' even if it could take up to an hour+ of experimenting for just 1 scene

Just a word of warning
I'll probably won't do full replacements of existing graphics (hmm, did I just drop a hint there ?) so you may get a mixture of styles when playing through

- problem is I just can't seem to get the required scene(s) as SD has trouble with multiple characters in prompts & there's no easy way to get exact correct poses (there are ways but I have difficulties getting them to work)

I guess an expert could probably know how to do it though but for me it's a LOT of trial & error[/quote][/Quote]
 
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Pleevy said:
If there is you should find it and share....there are likely some interested parties...
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It's abandoned but https://f95zone.to/threads/sonic-adventure-xxx-v0-09-overshotcentaur.169621/ is close to the description the original comment gave.
There's also https://f95zone.to/threads/sonic-ids-quest-v0-4-pammy-works.250331/ but that's more of a isekai where you inhabit the body of Sonic. Also every guy who isnt Sonic has been genderswapped so there's that. Weirdly enough the F95 thread isnt up to date (current public build is a v0.7). One would need to check there itch page or patreon.
 
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DiceAura said:
It's abandoned but https://f95zone.to/threads/sonic-adventure-xxx-v0-09-overshotcentaur.169621/ is close to the description the original comment gave.
There's also https://f95zone.to/threads/sonic-ids-quest-v0-4-pammy-works.250331/ but that's more of a isekai where you inhabit the body of Sonic. Also every guy who isnt Sonic has been genderswapped so there's that. Weirdly enough the F95 thread isnt up to date (current public build is a v0.7). One would need to check there itch page or patreon.
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Oh dear...Must not get distracted...:p
 
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FoxyTails said:
Part of the problem though is Avalon only did a limited amount of hand drawn/scanned in graphics & there's a LOT of scenes that have none.. unless either Avalon decides to come back & draw new graphics or there a VERY talented artist that could replicate his style (mind you if you look at his 'style' it does vary a lot anyway) then AI is really the only way to go, however from what I've been finding out it is possible to teach AI art styles so if someone could take time to teach an AI the style of Avalon then there still a possibility.

I don't know what Novaca been doing but I know his versions are tweaked/cleaned up existing Avalon graphics. Whatever he has been doing I don't know if it would also allow new graphics creation ? only he knows


Thanks - AI does help even if you just experimenting. Even if I don't get the right prompt for a graphic, I can also get AI search results to summarize what prompt may work better


Cough.. cough.. 'author(s) are'

Thanks for that, I'm no artist or even an AI expert, & doing experiments in my spare time, so my attempts will also have variations just like Avalon's but I'm trying LOL, but nice to know my experimenting is getting a 'like' even if it could take up to an hour+ of experimenting for just 1 scene

Just a word of warning
I'll probably won't do full replacements of existing graphics (hmm, did I just drop a hint there ?) so you may get a mixture of styles when playing through

- problem is I just can't seem to get the required scene(s) as SD has trouble with multiple characters in prompts & there's no easy way to get exact correct poses (there are ways but I have difficulties getting them to work)

I guess an expert could probably know how to do it though but for me it's a LOT of trial & error
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Well, I'll try to explain how the image production works. I start with a base (drawn or created in the AI itself), and then I "convert" it to the Aval0nx style via AI.
 
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pukilalat said:
is it me or the other ai image not implemented yet on 0.7 i only got basic standing image and nude one only thanks
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Edit: Some A few are, some more are still works in progress...
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seronis said:
please dont curse us like that. his current art style would have ensured BSC never had a fan base
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Yeah, I see your point considering his last drawing (Feb 2025)

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Even I think I can do better - with the assist of AI - & only after ~40hr+ 'self experimental training' and numerous [generates] to get something similar

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Anewrai said:
So when do we get the mod image pack and install instruction?
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Fair question, seeing as I sort of jumped the gun on that in an earlier post. I think I can say with confidence that for sure you will see it in the next major update (0.8) but I suspect we will release a patch if not a full version between now and then, probably no later then 0.7.5, maybe sooner. Basically, think of us at 0.7.2 on the back end, and you guys have access to 0.7 right now. I will leave my spoiler post up and remove the spoiler tags if nothing about that code changes between now and when its all public.
 
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pukilalat said:
i see on one discord some user have some good suggestion too about using new image.
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There are a good number of gens like this on the Discord. From an anonymous genner I ask to make stuff when I see him. Anyone see something they like in the image channel go ahead and jump in and suggest it.

Also can anyone give me a list of scenes that are missing including detail of what exactly you'd like to see. Wanna have that handy the next time I get a hold of him.
 
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nonesuch00 said:
There are a good number of gens like this on the Discord. From an anonymous genner I ask to make stuff when I see him. Anyone see something they like in the image channel go ahead and jump in and suggest it.

Also can anyone give me a list of scenes that are missing including detail of what exactly you'd like to see. Wanna have that handy the next time I get a hold of him.
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Firstly - what Discord channel ????? I vaguely remember there was one waaaayy back (pre-Novilon) didn't think it was still active

Secondly, I had already asked this (go back a page) since - if you couldn't guess by now - I've been experimenting with Stable Diffusion to try & produce graphics for myself to try and learn how to make suitable scenes based on the current gameplay.

[FYI, The way I've currently been working is by playing through then seeing where IMHO there seems to be a lot of text but no graphics (I've already mentioned a couple of areas that I'm working on myself)]

Other areas that I've just thought of atm that seem a bit devoid of graphics are
- In the park while at the swings (there's a couple of scenes with Cream on the swings & either Sonic is on the bench or pushing her),
- In the Mall there's no 'visuals' for when you get Icecream/special icecream - on subject of special icecream there's nothing for when you do eat it back home
- Buying stuff in electronics store (although not a lot can happen there anyway)
- In Arcade (apart from the Bike ride) when playing the other games (grabbing her ankles for example while playing dance game)

I guess by recycling existing graphics we could make them a little more 'visually appealing' instead of a blank background picture - like when character are chatting...

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oh and of course there's probably a requirement for replacement AI graphics for the existing 'handdrawn' ones like when peeking in changing room

There's also the problem of 'keeping a style' consistently throughout the game, after all - compare my version & the one you posted & you'll see mine is a completely different in style to yours which looks more like 'cartoon/comic' style to me
(this is why I asked in earlier post what people were using to make AI... but everyone was using something different in SD, FYI I've been using Novafurry in my attempts)

We've already got 3-4 'styles' in place (Avalon/Novaca, ShadowWordPorn, .....) that are all different in some way (Avalon/Novaca are the most similar to each other) so when playing you're gonna see a mashup of graphics

For example (if I figure it out right) right at the beginning of game when you 'skip the intro' you could probably see these graphics IF you had all graphics styles active at the same time
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USELESS BIT OF INFO: FYI my research shows that there's currently 167 AvalonX graphics,55 SWP, (so far) 13 Novaca graphics and 160.... currently in use in the game
 
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