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Oddly enough, I'm not a Sonic fan. (Don't dislike, just never got into it) I just came across this game a while back and got a little O.C.D. about achievements. I was fiddling with updating the Flash version, but it's a royal pain to do. When I got my hands on the first port, I saw a much easier route to getting it debugged, spellchecked (Dear GOD, how hard would that have been the first time!), and expanded to fill out the story lines. As for new characters, I do plan to extend several character roles Marine and Officer Nina.
Isn't it ironic when the Sonic sex parody games attract more new fans than the actual Sonic games themselves? Honestly, Babysitting Cream was the best Sonic game since Sonic Adventure 2.
 

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Isn't it ironic when the Sonic sex parody games attract more new fans than the actual Sonic games themselves? Honestly, Babysitting Cream was the best Sonic game since Sonic Adventure 2.
yeah true Sega bought the sonic porn cause they were losing money from it they pay artists to draw those comics
 
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Alright The Naizuri Guy , did you find it yet?
I'm assuming you mean the naizuri scene in the new game? Hell yeah I did, on day one. Can't express my appreciation enough. A good naizuri scene is like a drink of water in the desert, and my thirst has been sated. However, that doesn't mean I'm done looking forward to the rest of the game. I loved it even before all of your amazing additions, and will continue to love it even after.

And if you were referring to the official Palcomix Sonic work...I was joking, lol. At least I hope I was...
 

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I'm assuming you mean the naizuri scene in the new game? Hell yeah I did, on day one. ...
Cool, please feel free to critique, this is my first stint writing porn (Long time reader, first time writer, lol)

And that goes for anyone, I'm not a sensitive artiste that will have a fit if you don't like something, fire away.

This development effort NEEDS FEEDBACK!!!!!!!
 
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Cool, please feel free to critique, this is my first stint writing porn (Long time reader, first time writer, lol)

And that goes for anyone, I'm not a sensitive artiste that will have a fit if you don't like something, fire away.

This development effort NEEDS FEEDBACK!!!!!!!
Oh, I'm always down for giving critique. I've convinced myself I'm a big enough pervert and consumed enough porn to call myself a 'Connoisseur', and have a big enough ego that I consider my opinion to have value. I genuinely love the direction the game seems to be going as of this beta, as well as what you have stated to be your plans for future content. Everything I feel like I should critique is something that you yourself will be added or changed in the near future. I'm not just saying this to be nice, or out of thanks because my particular itch has been scratched, but good work.

Really. Building upon an already existing, beloved, and abandoned project was a brilliant move. In a world where fanmade sex games are either super shallow or never finished, starting without a blank slate is a huge asset. Not only was it a brilliant and efficient use of resources, I'm a fan of your story-telling and general creative direction.

If I had to have ANY input, I would suggest that Cream is a little to eager to get her pants off. (And even that is a criticism of Aval0nX and not you.) At least, for her personallity, which is a little mixed. The girl seems a little innocent for someone who has a vibrator at her age. I feel like Cream should swing more strongly in one direction or the other. Either have her more innocent, and the beginning stages of the game should be less, 'build relationship with Cream', and more 'get Cream more curious about sex', OR swing the other direction and have Cream actively trying to seduce Sonic. In which the 'Relationship with Cream' stat is less for Cream's sake, and more for Sonic. With a low relationship, Sonic would ignore or not even notice Cream's advances, until they spend more time together and he says, 'Screw it, if this rabbit wants molested so bad she's gonna get it'.
 

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If I had to have ANY input, I would suggest that Cream is a little to eager to get her pants off. (And even that is a criticism of Aval0nX and not you.) At least, for her personallity, which is a little mixed. The girl seems a little innocent for someone who has a vibrator at her age. I feel like Cream should swing more strongly in one direction or the other. Either have her more innocent, and the beginning stages of the game should be less, 'build relationship with Cream', and more 'get Cream more curious about sex', OR swing the other direction and have Cream actively trying to seduce Sonic. In which the 'Relationship with Cream' stat is less for Cream's sake, and more for Sonic. With a low relationship, Sonic would ignore or not even notice Cream's advances, until they spend more time together and he says, 'Screw it, if this rabbit wants molested so bad she's gonna get it'.
Agreed, and it's slowly working that way as far as giving her a more solid personality and inclinations. Have you seen the first level POV peek in the bathroom after the cartoon scene? I've added that to start giving more of "what's going on in her head" access. She's not as innocent. Plenty of hints to that originally, her drawings, the vibrator, peeking at her mom's orgies, etc. Dialog will be an often shifting thing during this process. MrCrazy123 is working on some scenes of exploration with Tails and Cream that will also build this.
 

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Agreed, and it's slowly working that way as far as giving her a more solid personality and inclinations. Have you seen the first level POV peek in the bathroom after the cartoon scene? I've added that to start giving more of "what's going on in her head" access. She's not as innocent. Plenty of hints to that originally, her drawings, the vibrator, peeking at her mom's orgies, etc. Dialog will be an often shifting thing during this process. MrCrazy123 is working on some scenes of exploration with Tails and Cream that will also build this.
Speaking of that scene. That was jarring, killed my suspension of belief. I dont mind stories with multiple protagonists, but i dont think it feels right for this game. It actually felt rather ucomfortable. Like it was out of place. It may be simply that the game is already established, but it could just ne that this game is better with one point of view too.

Maybe try and show her actions from his perspective instead? Like sonic noticed her earler but ignores her the first time and just watches her. Sees her do the things you wrote from her perspective, with expressions on her face indicating her basic thoughts. Surrpise, Curiosity, arousal, and surprise again, then being startled and running off. What im trying to say is, expanding her scenes and giving her new and more actions is a great idea, but maybe try doing it from his pov instead?
 

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I didn't find that scene as jarring, rather a nice addition. Maybe because it was the only thing that actually felt *new* instead of just minor adjustments. In any case, to me it was one of the best improvements and I was looking forward to more like it.
 
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Something hit me the other day while I was cleaning up some old files. I found some remnants of Imouto Paradise and it got me thinking. The way the game works is that the player can choose to spend the day doing sexy stuff with one of the main character's sisters. Do this enough, and you start that sister's route. However, the player can choose to NOT have sex with ANY of the sisters, and just help around the house. If they do this every single day, the player is rewarded with the harem route.

My point being: What if there was a reward for actually BABYSITTING Cream instead of...well, you know. An alternate route where Sonic is actually the cool babysitter and not the creepy one, or some hidden scenes that require a bit more effort than just getting your relationship high enough. The original had a different ending for this, but it was more like a 'bad end' than anything else. Less that you chose to not seduce Cream, more that you failed to. Challenges where the player must 'Marry Poppins' his way through the babysitting gig, helping her achieve her dreams. This leads to rewards, either with Cream herself in a sort of 'love' route, or with the women of the town how fall for Sonic and his AWESOME parenting skills with each of Cream's wishes that he grants.

For example, here's a scenario I thought up. (Note, I'm not a game dev or a writer. Just a pervert who likes tiny cartoon tiddies.)

Cream is a member of a local girls sports team. Soccer, track, something like that. She has a big game the week that Sonic is going to be watching her, but doesn't want to go. Turns out she's the worst member on the team, and doesn't feel like she can contribute. Now Sonic, being the FASTEST THING ALIVE, can decide to train Cream and get her ready for the big game. Since it's physical training, it takes a LOT of energy, leaving little room in the day for seducing Cream. However, if the player does it enough before the day of the big game, her new skills win the whole thing for her team. The team's coach then 'rewards' Sonic for helping Cream and saving the day.

OR, for the REALLY dedicated players who manage to train Cream AND seduce her with their little remaining energy, the now sexually experienced Cream herself rewards Sonic...by convincing her team to give him a loli locker room orgy.


Anyway, thanks for humoring me. Just a thought I had to get off my chest. Just some bonus scenes like that where the player is rewarded for going out of their way to help Cream in ways that don't seem to lead to sex.
 

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I'll be posting the discord link before long and you can log all of these ideas there. For now we're focused mainly on "fixing" the original so not too many story-line changes, just upgrades/expansions.

I agree, the original seemed to penalize you if you actually behaved responsibly. I see that changing just as part of the general updates.

My main take-away from the last few comments:
  • mixed feelings on the POV switch, but that's not surprising, can't expect everyone to like everything.
  • I made the transition obvious with the "YOU ARE NOW....", can remove that since most people should recognize the shift with the "Meanwhile..." and screen fadeout
  • Also thought about a POV toggle, so you can choose if you want to get any scenes from her perspective. This would give the game the extra level without shoving it down everyone's throat.
 
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Discord sounds cool, I'll definitely join in on it when I can. A PoV toggle sounds interesting, but how would that work? Having to write two perspectives for every scene sounds like a LOT of work.

(And sorry, didn't mean to make such a long 'suggestion' post. I was drunk and absinthe makes me feel...creative.)
 
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A PoV toggle sounds interesting, but how would that work? Having to write two perspectives for every scene sounds like a LOT of work.
I think he meant an option to enable or disable POV switches. In other words, if it were set to OFF, you wouldn't get any of the "Meanwhile..." segments.
 
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That makes more sense, actually.
Hadn't planned on a bunch of those POV switches, mostly just seemed like a neat new "feature" that could be fit into the existing story-line, why was she peeking?

So... to have the toggle, I would have to write some extra dialog so you get the sonic POV instead of Cream for any Cream POV segments, but that's not too hard, largely copy/paste and change the adverbs, lol

...and the genitalia , HAH
 
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