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Gambatei

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But several games have this, for example My Cute Roommate 1 the first time the MC has sex with his cousin is because he gives her a sleeping pill so he can fuck her without her waking up
I am okay with sleeping pills and sleeping sex
It was the violence that I didn't like
But it is a thin line, like I didn't mind bobby forcing himself and surprise fucking the girl when the scenario called for it
But beating Lisa until she passes out was too much for me
 

cassie_futa

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I am okay with sleeping pills and sleeping sex
It was the violence that I didn't like
But it is a thin line, like I didn't mind bobby forcing himself and surprise fucking the girl when the scenario called for it
But beating Lisa until she passes out was too much for me
I also thought this was exaggerated, but as far as I remember, wasn't this optional? Or was it mandatory?
 

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I'm not very familiar with the Patreon rules, but from an artistic point of view, topics that may seem controversial can always be justified. They are works of fiction, and if that were the case, works like Game of Thrones would never have a chance on Patreon.
I dont make the rules!I just quoted it. Maybe yes, game of thrones would never have a chance on Patreon. "Patreon has zero tolerance for works that depict non-consensual sexual acts such as rape, sexual assault, or coerced consent (e.g., under the influence of drugs or alcohol, hypnosis, blackmail)"... REAL OR NOT... zero Tolerance. These are the rules of that platform. But in my opinion as a work of fiction anything should be allowed.

" topics that may seem controversial can always be justified."
Sure...How would you justify a game where the goal is precisely for you to sexually abuse your mother and sisters? :LOL: Rainces was very lucky to have kept his Patreon active all this time.
 
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mikednew

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Violence plain and simple doesn't arouse me and if you mix it with "sex" doesn't help either
This kind of stuff wasn't in the game before
I'm like you! When you mix violence or suffering and, ultimately, death, it stops being sexually arousing to me. Of course, a little spanking on the ass like when he helped Lucy study or even punishing Lisa doesn't bother me. But when he hits her so much that she faints from so much suffering, that's repulsive to me. I do believe that the developer put these things in because of MODs that came out like Dark Path, which, if I remember correctly, had more extreme things and maybe some subscribers asked for things like that.
 
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I also thought this was exaggerated, but as far as I remember, wasn't this optional? Or was it mandatory?
Optional.
But several games have this, for example My Cute Roommate 1 the first time the MC has sex with his cousin is because he gives her a sleeping pill so he can fuck her without her waking up
I don't know which game it was exactly, but I read that in some game they changed the sleepsex scenes to insinuate that the girl was actually awake and consented. At the end of the scene, she opens her eyes and says something to herself. They did this so that their page wouldn't be removed from Patreon. But of course, there must be hundreds of games on Patreon that violate the platform's rules. Bad Bobby Saga was one of them and it stayed there for years.
 
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elbro

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" topics that may seem controversial can always be justified."
Sure...How would you justify a game where the goal is precisely for you to sexually abuse your mother and sisters? :LOL: Rainces was very lucky to have kept his Patreon active all this time.
I think there was a meme that said "it was all a dream" and the guy woke up with his legs cut off in a hospital bed. :LUL:

It's easy to explain why, it depends on the reasons. I mean, I don't know if you saw the 1995 movie Kids? It touches on topics that Patreon rules wouldn't allow, but from an artistic point of view it shows the reality of adolescence and its mistakes. It shows young people without the ability to make good decisions, without a good family education, without worries other than having a good time. That can be shown and defended from an artistic point of view, even necessary for education.

BBS is the behavior of a teenager who makes mistakes, is horny and manipulates his family. If the author wanted to justify something, he would say that he wants to show how certain people can act at an early age, the mistakes they can make and the future consequences.

The truth is that it's easy to justify artistic decisions, but it's easier to have a monopoly and close the doors to any explanation, just like Twitch does.
 

cassie_futa

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Optional.


I don't know which game it was exactly, but I read that in some game they changed the sleepsex scenes to insinuate that the girl was actually awake and consented. At the end of the scene, she opens her eyes and says something to herself. They did this so that their page wouldn't be removed from Patreon. But of course, there must be hundreds of games on Patreon that violate the platform's rules. Bad Bobby Saga was one of them and it stayed there for years.
Yes, bro, there are several and several games that have this type of non-consensual sex, but what intrigues me is that the only type of content the dev needs to patch is incest content, which adds lines and family kinship between the characters and even changes the name of the game,for example my cute roommate with the incest patch is named as my cute cousin
 

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I don't think I ever got the same option, although my game might be bugged. I've tried to find those rumored scenes multiple times, and will try again with this new knowledge, but still kind of thinking my game is bugged. Does anyone have a save before the choice? Thanks in advance.

Edit: Yeah, still having no luck finding it at the second spanking in his room. I did try a restart right from Chapter 6, but that didn't seem to help either.
If you have that part saved, download a urm it will show you hidden choices in the game on some scenes, oh and make sure you rollback so the urm can pop up in the scene otherwise it won't be there when you load a save
 

mikednew

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The truth is that it's easy to justify artistic decisions, but it's easier to have a monopoly and close the doors to any explanation, just like Twitch does.
I watched the movie Kids in a movie theater. And then when I watched it on video, the opening scene had been partially cut. I remember that the boy was taking off the girl's bra and panties and the camera was zoomed in following his hand and her pussy, even with panties on, looked gigantic on the movie screen... the panties were so tight that the tan lines showed. The scene was cut later, I believe, because according to American law, if you focused on the genitals it is child pornography. I believe that if it were today, with the rise of conservatism, perhaps the director would have even been arrested. But there is a huge difference between Kids and BBS. The first portrays a reality: the increase in AIDS cases among young people. BBS, on the other hand, does not portray a reality that threatens public health: it is a game whose objective is to satisfy users in situations where the MC they control tries to satisfy himself sexually and, among other means, even uses rape. You can try to justify it in another way, but no one is stupid enough to believe your justification. Just because you come up with a justification doesn't make it legitimate or legally acceptable.

You could say that Rapelay is a game that serves as a warning to women. But everyone will know that it is a complete bullshit. The game was banned in some countries. The truth is that when it comes to sexuality, some countries are hysterical and exaggerated. The USA is one of them. And Patreon only reflects a little of that. Games where we can murder people are allowed, but if there are scenes of consensual incest, or touching the body of a sleeping girl, it is terribly forbidden. And if you play this, you are labeled as a rapist, whereas if you play a death game, you are not labeled as a homicidal maniac.
 
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mikednew

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I myself don't care about many things and some topics because I know it's just a game and not real life.
Sure! I don't mind either. But if it's a game I play, I'll say what I like and what I don't like. What I find sexually arousing and what I find repulsive. But I'm not going to say that games like that should be banned.
 
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I watched the movie Kids in a movie theater. And then when I watched it on video, the opening scene had been partially cut. I remember that the boy was taking off the girl's bra and panties and the camera was zoomed in following his hand and her pussy, even with panties on, looked gigantic on the movie screen... the panties were so tight that the tan lines showed. The scene was cut later, I believe, because according to American law, if you focused on the genitals it is child pornography. I believe that if it were today, with the rise of conservatism, perhaps the director would have even been arrested. But there is a huge difference between Kids and BBS. The first portrays a reality: the increase in AIDS cases among young people. BBS, on the other hand, does not portray a reality that threatens public health: it is a game whose objective is to satisfy users in situations where the MC they control tries to satisfy himself sexually and, among other means, even uses rape. You can try to justify it in another way, but no one is stupid enough to believe your justification. Just because you come up with a justification doesn't make it legitimate or legally acceptable.

You could say that Rapelay is a game that serves as a warning to women. But everyone will know that it is a complete bullshit. The game was banned in some countries. The truth is that when it comes to sexuality, some countries are hysterical and exaggerated. The USA is one of them. And Patreon only reflects a little of that. Games where we can murder people are allowed, but if there are scenes of consensual incest, or touching the body of a sleeping girl, it is terribly forbidden. And if you play this, you are labeled as a rapist, whereas if you play a death game, you are not labeled as a homicidal maniac.
Conservatives and liberals are equally censorious, but they have different motives. In short, for me, fictional products are easily justified. You don't even need to justify why it is fiction, imagination, you are not making a declaration of interests, it is just entertainment.

Now, the real motive can be economic, so as not to have problems with bad press or lawsuits.
 

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Conservatives and liberals are equally censorious, but they have different motives. In short, for me, fictional products are easily justified. You don't even need to justify why it is fiction, imagination, you are not making a declaration of interests, it is just entertainment.
In practice it's not so easy to justify something that is sexually controversial or blatantly illegal, especially when the rules or legislation explicitly prohibit something EVEN AS IN FICTION.

In my country there are people who describe themselves as conservative in social values and liberal in economics. It's this conservatism that I'm referring to and it's reinforced by religious people. In this sense, those who call themselves left-wing progressives do not defend the censorship of content related to human sexuality in the same way as those who call themselves right-wing and conservative. In a city here where the mayor was conservative, there was a seizure of comics because they contained a gay kiss, for example. It's not something a progressive politician would do.
 

Gambatei

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You don't like what's in there, don't play it
If you're given the option to skip it and you are fine with that, skip it
I see no need to ban a work of fiction because it ilustrates something that is offensive to you or a crime
You see murder on the television and it's a crime but no one claims it should be banned

That is unless you want to argue that violence and other stuff in fiction may negatively reflect on people, specialy kids and young people
Which I find not true
I wish I could do what bobby does with my stepmom and my sister, I have tried somethings he did but to no effect
But I started to feel like this and did those things before I played it, and not because I played it
I enjoyed it because in fiction I could imagine myself living a reality I know I can't live in real life
I don't like when it makes bobby do some stuff that I wouldn't do, even if I could get away with it
But I don't like incest pornography because it opened my eyes to it, I like it because my eyes are already opened to it and if it is fiction there is no harm
 
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I really don't understand why it is okay to ilustrate assassination as something that is fine, in a work of fiction, but child sex is not
The law even tends to give the worse punishments to crimes like murder, treating it as the worst offense
But when it comes to midia and fiction it is completely acceptable, while sexual crimes must be banned
 

Mysters90

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Oh god, That wall of text is so hard to read.

Right, lets say messages was left for the developer and it went unanswered, what else can be done?

Sure he could have stopped his support and moved on, but he choosed otherwise. What's done is done and if we all had the benefit of hindsight we wouldn't be making mistakes.

I actually see this as a benefit in the long run as him having to move from the ticking time bomb that is Patreon to a somewhat safer SubscriberStar will ensure his support income.

I did a little math with his SubscriberStar members count, even though SubscriberStar membership display is not accurate.

He gets a little over $1000 currently with his SubscriberStar members, like I said SubscriberStar is not accurate.

So I'd say it's 25% off and he is getting $750 from SubscriberStar, even at worst case scenario and it's 50% he is still getting $500.

That was the level he was at on Patreon before it got closed down, so I wouldn't be worried about the development support not being there.

I'd be more concerned about him going back to his old ways as evidence with the silence after the last update.
When he was shut down on Patreon, he was getting the absolute maximum for the entire time the game was created. More than $2 000.
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As for Subscribestar, he has never really been involved in publishing content on this platform. He just doesn't believe in her. Although there are actually many examples of successful game creators out there. For example, ZipTieFun. The same story, but a different person. Or a DMD game.

Now about the money on Subscribestar. The constant number of paid visitors at RAinces varies from 67 to 72 people. That is, the most likely amount per month is $350/500.
 

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When he was shut down on Patreon, he was getting the absolute maximum for the entire time the game was created. More than $2 000.
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As for Subscribestar, he has never really been involved in publishing content on this platform. He just doesn't believe in her. Although there are actually many examples of successful game creators out there. For example, ZipTieFun. The same story, but a different person. Or a DMD game.

Now about the money on Subscribestar. The constant number of paid visitors at RAinces varies from 67 to 72 people. That is, the most likely amount per month is $350/500.
I know you offered to support him at a higher tier and that is very generous of you for offering, but he just doesn't seems to want to engage with people even though it's to his benefit:rolleyes:

I believe the $2000 was when he was actually releasing regular updates to the game that why it was so high, but with the prolong silence and lack of any information the support dropped to about $400-$500 before the closure of his Patreon account.

Subscribestar's members count is not always displayed correctly, but $350 seems too low to me.

They can't be off by 65%, that just seems silly. It must be closer to $500 per month that he is getting.

But either way, if he wants support. He needs to post more regularly to keep his supporters informed about the progress of the update.

Communication is key to ensuring peoples continued support!
 
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Mysters90

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I believe the $2000 was when he was actually releasing regular updates to the game that why it was so high, but with the prolong silence and lack of any information the support dropped to about $400-$500 before the closure of his Patreon account.

Subscribestar's members count is not always displayed correctly, but $350 seems too low to me.

They can't be off by 65%, that just seems silly. It must be closer to $500 per month that he is getting.
After each update, the number of paid subscribers increased tenfold from several hundred. For example, in August 2023, a demo of a new version was released, so that by the end of the year his average income did not fall below $ 900. And already at the end of January 2024, a new version was released, including more than 3,500 renderers. As a result, almost a month later, the Patreon security service began checking for complaints about content. And if the rape scene in the hotel had been there for a long time and had taken place, then the scene with a fist in Lisa's stomach and her rape at the end led to the immediate deletion of the page. As a result, the game was removed from Patreon because of the content, not because of rare updates. A month after the last release.

As for Subscribestar, now information about paid subscribers is not freely available. When that was the case, the average figure there was about 70. When I signed up for verification in September, the numbers were unchanged. I can subscribe tonight to publish the results about the paid audience.

The only thing I made a mistake in the last post was saying about the maximum income of just over $ 2,000. In fact, the figure is higher. In the screenshot below (in October 2021, one of the last updates was).
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After each update, the number of paid subscribers increased tenfold from several hundred. For example, in August 2023, a demo of a new version was released, so that by the end of the year his average income did not fall below $ 900. And already at the end of January 2024, a new version was released, including more than 3,500 renderers. As a result, almost a month later, the Patreon security service began checking for complaints about content. And if the rape scene in the hotel had been there for a long time and had taken place, then the scene with a fist in Lisa's stomach and her rape at the end led to the immediate deletion of the page. As a result, the game was removed from Patreon because of the content, not because of rare updates. A month after the last release.

As for Subscribestar, now information about paid subscribers is not freely available. When that was the case, the average figure there was about 70. When I signed up for verification in September, the numbers were unchanged. I can subscribe tonight to publish the results about the paid audience.

The only thing I made a mistake in the last post was saying about the maximum income of just over $ 2,000. In fact, the figure is higher. In the screenshot below (in October 2021, one of the last updates was).
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You don't need to subscribe to him just to get the membership numbers.

It's not really that important to get the correct numbers, plus it's fun to speculate what the actual number is.

I really don't remember seeing the Patreon support that high and it blows my mind that the support was still at $1000 during the silence period.

I guess all we can do is wait and see what the support level is once he releases the next update to the game.
 
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I wish I could do what bobby does with my stepmom and my sister, I have tried somethings he did but to no effect
But I started to feel like this and did those things before I played it, and not because I played it
I enjoyed it because in fiction I could imagine myself living a reality I know I can't live in real life
I don't like when it makes bobby do some stuff that I wouldn't do, even if I could get away with it
But I don't like incest pornography because it opened my eyes to it, I like it because my eyes are already opened to it and if it is fiction there is no harm
I have sisters and I like to play games like Bad Bobby Saga, even though I find the idea of doing these things with my sisters and mother quite disgusting. As for my cousins, I thought they were hot and I would have certainly liked to have done something, but I never did because I was always very shy. When I play these types of games, it is not as if I were their brother, but rather someone who is controlling their brother and trying to corrupt them. I find games where we have to corrupt the girls sexually interesting.
 
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