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nulnil You don't have to attack everyone. I don't think they hate you. You've kind of hijacked the thread. Your hate on for BaDIK is not the point of this thread. Open your own thread if you really hate it that much.
I don't have the energy to write this in a polite manner but please go actually read the posts before telling me what's going on here. There's been so much ad hom directed towards me it's incredible.

Funny enough, as I was writing this...
Explain to me in small words how this has anything at all to do with what I said, other than proving out my point that you are a very not smart person.
If illiteracy was an olymyic sport, you'd get a gold medal.

Surpise ISN'T denial.

Do the bolded words make your goldfish brain able to percieve the text?
 

tanstaafl

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If illiteracy was an olymyic sport, you'd get a gold medal.

Surpise ISN'T denial.

Do the bolded words make your goldfish brain able to percieve the text?
Try a picture, then maybe I'll get it. Especially since I wasn't implying you denied anything. Make that connection for me.

Edit: Going over a few of your replies, I'm starting to think your brain adds words to things you reply to and even you aren't aware of it happening.
 
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Try a picture, then maybe I'll get it. Especially since I wasn't implying you denied anything. Make that connection for me.

Edit: Going over a few of your replies, I'm starting to think your brain adds words to things you reply to and even you aren't aware of it happening.
"You know, if nulnil would just one time say "I understand why, I just disagree." I would stop thinking he's dense as a brick, but he won't, so here we are. "

"Disagree" with... what exactly?

The more replies you post, the more I think you just don't want to admit you were in the wrong in that first reply because that will bruise your fragile ego.
 

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You've sent out far more ad hominem here.
Ignoring the point, trying to sound intelligent, failing miserably. Stating facts is hardly an attack on character and you've already shown your emotional state.

When you focus on semantics so much, you realize how quickly your argument can fall apart. I meant to write "one of the top games" and got carried away by you talking like there's a stick up your ass.
Neither you failing to write what you apparently actually meant, nor my replying to the exact wording you used could EVER be considered or called semantics. For someone wanting to hand out english lessons, your grasp of the language is borderline rudimentary at best.

Ok, gotta teach you some english here. "Surely it must be" is a phrase for believing something is a certain way because of some. The phrase "surely it would be" has the same meaning. Forgot that your native language isn't english when I was replying to you.
Ok so now I'm meant to be all annoyed or upset that you called into question my ability to use english and allow you to side track by having an argument on how, when, where "Surely it must be" should, can, is used. Instead I'll just point out that you lied, that I stand by my previous reply and that if you are going to try "teach" someone english, it best to double check your work else you end up making an ass of yourself....

That's not what putting words in your mouth is. This is:

"Why does it have to be unique? Why can't it just do what others have done, just better or in a way more people enjoy?
YOU are the one adding the "it must be unique", you are adding your own criteria and then judging it on that criteria and then passing the results off as something standard. Hence the later replies that you think you represent the majority."

Sound familiar?
Here is the actual exchange

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You pretending you got "I think it is bad, wrong or evil" from that clearly shows you're either trying to troll or you are trying to weasel your way out of another blunder moment. You've also repeatedly failed to address the fact that you are applying your own criteria and not standard criteria.

Then again it's no wonder with how much you twist and bait your replies that you would loose track of the original context and what you, yourself have said...
 

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I swear, is there anyone else that hates those ugly realistic 3d games that plague the front page??? It feels like those and games with 0 gameplay whatsoever just do not leave from the top and it's frustrating because I see nothing appealing about them AT ALL. I need to know if I'm alone on this and I'm crazy or it's an actual thing. View attachment 4721875
Pretty much all of those are a form of Visual Novel even those not marked as such.
They in effect one of the simplest forms of games to make so tend to be the entry bar for people new to making games.
Not many of the new developers can even complete that level of a game and far fewer could create something more complex like an RPG on the lines of D&D or whatever action based game you want.
With the relatively small teams they tend to have it would also be quite challenging for them to deal with asset creation, story development, game play... and more.
 

tanstaafl

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Pretty much all of those are a form of Visual Novel even those not marked as such.
They in effect one of the simplest forms of games to make so tend to be the entry bar for people new to making games.
Not many of the new developers can even complete that level of a game and far fewer could create something more complex like an RPG on the lines of D&D or whatever action based game you want.
With the relatively small teams they tend to have it would also be quite challenging for them to deal with asset creation, story development, game play... and more.
Truth. The hierarchy in terms of skill required would be; full text game -> text with images -> text with images and a few animations -> the rest.
 
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If illiteracy was an olymyic sport, you'd get a gold medal.

Surpise ISN'T denial.

Do the bolded words make your goldfish brain able to percieve the text?
Funny coming from someone who clearly don't know the difference between "disagreeing" and "denying".
 
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I don't have the energy to write this in a polite manner but please go actually read the posts before telling me what's going on here.
I did read the posts. That's why I replied? Although yeah. Don't be polite. We're on an online forum. Being polite has no place online anymore.
There's been so much ad hom directed towards me it's incredible.
That is fair. I get people are mad at you for not liking a game they enjoyed. It can get infuriating to deal with that. A lot of people don't like some of my opinions. Although responding to these people just gives them more fuel. It's not wroth your time or energy.
 
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That is fair. I get people are mad at you for not liking a game they enjoyed. It can get infuriating to deal with that. A lot of people don't like some of my opinions. Although responding to these people just gives them more fuel. It's not wroth your time or energy.
We don't give a flying fuck that he doesn't like a game we like. Hell, half the people arguing with him don't like BaDIK either. We're giving him shit because he cannot and will not understand that people like things he doesn't like and that that is fine and normal. Basically, that shit you just said to comfort him is what he DOESN'T GET.
 
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Hell, half the people arguing with him don't like BaDIK either.
I sure don't so it was funny to see someone thought it's about our precious waifu-sim was insulted by dislike :sneaky:
That is fair.
Fair my shiny ass :p We didn't engage with him over disliking anything. He was simply told Badik, among others, are popular because different people like different things and his preferences might not represent a vast majority. He couldn't take it. Weird as it is. That is all.
 

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That they're good. You disagree that they're good. Holy shit. You really are dense.
Real funny you started talking about "your brain adding context to stuff that isn't there", when that's what you've been doing the whole time. Anyhow, was it that you were dropped on your head as a baby, or was your mother smoking and drinking during the pregnancy? Maybe both? Probably.

You cannot tell the difference between correlation and causation. I made an off-hand comment saying I don't like VN's subjectively, which has nothing to do with the fact there are objective (or widely considered "bad", even by the game's own positive reviews) flaws with BaD. As I've said, the actual animations during sex are poor, frequent minigames are intrusive to the actual story trying to be presented, said minigames become increasingly lower in quality as the novel continues, and there are quite a few bad renders early on.

These negatives don't mean too much on their own and you could expect a game with them to still be played by a lot of people... but when it's the near-top game of all time on this site, that is the twist.

Now, I'm probably wasting my time responding to you, because you are incapable of actually engaging in any kind of discussion.


Ignoring the point, trying to sound intelligent, failing miserably. Stating facts is hardly an attack on character and you've already shown your emotional state.
Are these your "facts"?

"At this point it would be an insult to bricks."

Good job doubling down. Your stupidity is geniunely beyond words.

Neither you failing to write what you apparently actually meant, nor my replying to the exact wording you used could EVER be considered or called semantics. For someone wanting to hand out english lessons, your grasp of the language is borderline rudimentary at best.
Hey, where'd all that confidence go? You were preaching just a reply ago! Maybe, it could be that you were so enraged that you just wanted to attack instead of actually thinking about where that point would go if it turned out to be mistake in writing.

Ok so now I'm meant to be all annoyed or upset that you called into question my ability to use english and allow you to side track by having an argument on how, when, where "Surely it must be" should, can, is used. Instead I'll just point out that you lied, that I stand by my previous reply and that if you are going to try "teach" someone english, it best to double check your work else you end up making an ass of yourself....
You had a misunderstanding in the writing because you do not know the language and I tried to clear it, but then I forgot in the moment you can't act civil in any way, shape or form. So anyways, I'll take it that you did understand what I wrote and it's meaning and you made shit out of nothing to sound like you were going somewhere.

Here is the actual exchange

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You pretending you got "I think it is bad, wrong or evil" from that clearly shows you're either trying to troll or you are trying to weasel your way out of another blunder moment.
You know what, taking a second look, you just fucking cut off the very next word, "because". In full, it is "because usually the best of something at least stands out in some way." Now, why did you cut it off? Because you KNOW there's nothing to be said about this because it is immediately explained.

Let's take that sentence, change it to "Surely, it would be a unique game then...", and see what you can actually respond with. You have jack shit to say beyond semantics. And yes, that is semantics here.

You've also repeatedly failed to address the fact that you are applying your own criteria and not standard criteria.
Oh, so do tell me what the "standard criteria" is. Here's my so-called "unique critera"; The graphics are average in a bad way, not because they're in daz, but because as I've previously said they are stiff and you'll see a jarring low-quality one every now and then. The minigames also intrude on the story the novel is trying to tell. Animations are also relatively stiff.

Your agenda of flaming is crystal clear when you take into the other argument we had where you were also hurling insults left and right. Whoever that samurai is in your profile picture, I know for a fact they're ashamed to be there.
 

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Real funny you started talking about "your brain adding context to stuff that isn't there", when that's what you've been doing the whole time. Anyhow, was it that you were dropped on your head as a baby, or was your mother smoking and drinking during the pregnancy? Maybe both? Probably.

You cannot tell the difference between correlation and causation. I made an off-hand comment saying I don't like VN's subjectively, which has nothing to do with the fact there are objective (or widely considered "bad", even by the game's own positive reviews) flaws with BaD. As I've said, the actual animations during sex are poor, frequent minigames are intrusive to the actual story trying to be presented, said minigames become increasingly lower in quality as the novel continues, and there are quite a few bad renders early on.

These negatives don't mean too much on their own and you could expect a game with them to still be played by a lot of people... but when it's the near-top game of all time on this site, that is the twist.

Now, I'm probably wasting my time responding to you, because you are incapable of actually engaging in any kind of discussion.
You're talking out of your ass and still managing to say nothing. My entire original contribution was "different people like different things" and you had a little baby cow because you're dense as a brick.
 
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Are these your "facts"?

"At this point it would be an insult to bricks."

Good job doubling down. Your stupidity is geniunely beyond words.
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As I said, twisting things because you're either trolling or trying to get out of the BS you've posted. You could EASILY have quoted the "insult to bricks", you didn't, you quoted a different section then replied to THAT section, that is literally how the quote -> reply works.

Hey, where'd all that confidence go? You were preaching just a reply ago! Maybe, it could be that you were so enraged that you just wanted to attack instead of actually thinking about where that point would go if it turned out to be mistake in writing.
...and again writing drivel and ignoring everything in the section you quoted....

You had a misunderstanding in the writing because you do not know the language and I tried to clear it, but then I forgot in the moment you can't act civil in any way, shape or form. So anyways, I'll take it that you did understand what I wrote and it's meaning and you made shit out of nothing to sound like you were going somewhere.
You are as always more than welcome to ignore facts and reality just as I am as always welcome to call you on it and your BS.
The fact still stands that you are wrong, the only difference is the amount of things you are wrong about keep piling up....

You know what, taking a second look, you just fucking cut off the very next word, "because". In full, it is "because usually the best of something at least stands out in some way." Now, why did you cut it off? Because you KNOW there's nothing to be said about this because it is immediately explained.
So you're ditching the "I never said unique :cry:" and trying a different approach of "but I explained" except I pointed out that it doesn't need to be unique to stand out and you are still ignoring the context which is you adding your own criteria. So it doesn't matter if it's the full sentence or not, your context is not lost, just wrong.

You're like a flag in a hurricane, if you do any more twisting and flip flopping you might pull something...

Let's take that sentence, change it to "Surely, it would be a unique game then...", and see what you can actually respond with. You have jack shit to say beyond semantics. And yes, that is semantics here.
Nope, I'll stick to YOUR original EXACT words and stand by my reply. You on the other hand are welcome to cry and back pedal as much as you like...

Here's my so-called "unique critera"; The graphics are average in a bad way, not because they're in daz, but because as I've previously said they are stiff and you'll see a jarring low-quality one every now and then. The minigames also intrude on the story the novel is trying to tell. Animations are also relatively stiff.
You start by saying HERE'S my so-called "unique criteria" and then proceed to review the game NOT once giving YOUR criteria.
When giving YOUR criteria, you give what you are looking for / want / judge a game on, NOT what you got or in this case think what you got. :rolleyes:

Your agenda of flaming is crystal clear when you take into the other argument we had where you were also hurling insults left and right.
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You really need to look into your issue of projecting, reading this thread and your replies to everyone, the only one flaming here is you. Then again this is your habit, lie, distract, twist words but I must admit jumping threads, that's new.

No matter what underhanded tactics you try, facts are facts.....

Whoever that samurai is in your profile picture, I know for a fact they're ashamed to be there.
Why am I NOT surprised you have trouble separating reality from fiction :rolleyes:
 

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There are just so many games that use Daz3D and it's hard to tell at a glance which ones will be good. So I tend to just ignore games with that artstyle, because it's not worth the time to actually pick out the good ones.
 

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Well, I am now. But only in this last page after I lost patience. To be fair though, I've only called him dense, so not much of a flame.
Stating facts and pointing out behavior, attitude and lack of ability is NOT flaming. His attitude is malicious, his behavior is to argue in bad faith, misquoting, adding insults and derogatory remarks to try drive the discussion off topic and his lack of ability to do so gives the impression, that it is less that he is a troll and more that he is, as you said dense and I think too incompetent to follow through.

None of that is flaming, it's just stating the obvious.
 
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Truth. The hierarchy in terms of skill required would be; full text game -> text with images -> text with images and a few animations -> the rest.
Gotta disagree here, because each of those are skills. Movies are not always better than books, depends on creators skill. Yes it takes more programming skill to make certain things, art skills to draw well, but there are also master writers who have put there skill points there.
 

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Gotta disagree here, because each of those are skills. Movies are not always better than books, depends on creators skill. Yes it takes more programming skill to make certain things, art skills to draw well, but there are also master writers who have put there skill points there.
My hierarchy had absolutely no consideration of the writing of the plot of a game, merely the creation of the actual product. The writing is the same as writing anywhere. It's based on skill, ability, talent, and dedication and even then there will be a miss. The most popular authors on the planet put out stinkers sometimes.
 
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