VN Ren'Py Bad Memories [v0.9.1] [recreation]

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jaw1986baby

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Machete said:
Indeed, as i said, "unless it's strongly connected to the story". But in general i take it as a symptom at misleaded design. As i often point, VNs are in the "choose your own adventure" category of games. Therefore they are supposed to let you choose your own adventure as much as the platform allows (which, yes, it's not much to begin with but still a dev should make the most of it). Since those are erotic/porn/dating simulator games, "your own adventure" orbits around to which LI you will pursuit. So, in general, "you WILL pursuit this LI and maybe some other" is not a good approach. IMHO.
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Yeah but the choose your own adventure is easy to create strongly divergent paths when the medium is written words alone. When you want to render scenes it is a whole new world. Most VNs choices lead to what type of text you want for the MC but the scenes don't change behind it. I have played them from pure MC to dark MC in games and the words are the only part really changing. So if you have a choice that is "do you want this LI or not" then you simply add a mechanism to skip any scene in the future for those you reject. But if they need to be around for the story (Rachel and Ellie absolutely do 100% ), you can't put a skip. Then to create the story where you have Rachel touched versus Rachel not touched is a big digression and you would need separate renders for the physical contact level between the two to go along with the text changes and on top of that we have 2 possible MCs. Simply a ridiculous level of render work to add that option which isn't what was in your vision. So quite often "Novel" wins over all else. Look at games that try to give you VN and significant choices and how long it takes to put out new content. It is tremendously long and gets longer every update. Many of those devs aren't even 4 version releases in when they take a year to put out the next. So yeah unrealistic.


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Machete said:
Indeed, as i said, "unless it's strongly connected to the story". But in general i take it as a symptom at misleaded design. As i often point, VNs are in the "choose your own adventure" category of games. Therefore they are supposed to let you choose your own adventure as much as the platform allows (which, yes, it's not much to begin with but still a dev should make the most of it). Since those are erotic/porn/dating simulator games, "your own adventure" orbits around to which LI you will pursuit. So, in general, "you WILL pursuit this LI and maybe some other" is not a good approach. IMHO.
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You're right, a good portion of VNs are in this category - they tend to be the more 'sandboxy' ones, though.
The others are more oriented towards the novel-part and not as open.

Even in text format, it is time-consuming to write all those alternate content paths. In VNs, this means you also have to script and most important build the scenes for and do the renders for those paths. And in case you want to tell a specific story, that is a lot of resources used for something that isn't your focus.

Regardless of what choices you implement - there will always be those, that would like to have another choice in there.
Also, unless they tell us, only the devs know what will happen in the future, and if something we don't see a reason in has to be like that or not to make sense.

I'd advocate to trust in a dev to make good decisions for the story they want to tell.
In the end, I just don't think the 'open sandbox' style is better than others per se or the holy grail of VN development.
 
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Machete said:
I must admit i really like this game, characters, design and storywise. But i can't help complaining about the unavoidable sex scenes. In general i think there shouldn't be any unless it's strongly connected to the story and this seems to be the case, yet, why can't you avoid to molest MC's stepmother? Really? Why it's always the motherly figure when you can't avoid sex scenes? It's a major offputting, imho.
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Huh? I thought you can avoid sex with most character. Even the stepmother. Like in this latest update. I choose not to peek on her in the bathroom so nothing happen. Although rec Jill did make a smirk comment: yeah, why would I want to peek on a hot milf. Like I just make a wrong choice or something:rolleyes:
 
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NukaCola said:
Huh? I thought you can avoid sex with most character.
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With most, yes. And don't get me wrong, i like this game a lot. It feels interesting and immersive and the renders are among the best i've seen around. Yet there are a few things you can't avoid, like groping the Rachel when she's under drugs or having sex with Ellie or game over. As i mentioned i think that the basis of this games should be that you can choose wether or not starting any kind of relationship with the game's LIs. Now, sleeping with Ellie might be an essential plot point and in this case i've nothing against that. Yet i have an hard time imagining that groping Rachel would be as essential and it's not far fetched that the player might want to behave like, you kwon, a human being by not raping a roofied woman :D
 
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Machete said:
With most, yes. And don't get me wrong, i like this game a lot. It feels interesting and immersive and the renders are among the best i've seen around. Yet there are a few things you can't avoid, like groping the Rachel when she's under drugs or having sex with Ellie or game over. As i mentioned i think that the basis of this games should be that you can choose wether or not starting any kind of relationship with the game's LIs. Now, sleeping with Ellie might be an essential plot point and in this case i've nothing against that. Yet i have an hard time imagining that groping Rachel would be as essential and it's not far fetched that the player might want to behave like, you kwon, a human being by not raping a roofied woman :D
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You might've forgotten that Rachel abused MC for years, but I can assure you, MC has not. And honestly I think MC is quite "normal" for all the shit that happened in the past.
 
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Story is so interesting and really liking the characters and personalities :D I was disappointed i didnt do a lesbian route first, once i realised how good it was i was sad that i did it on my 2nd playthrough instead of first
 
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lolzw00t said:
Story is so interesting and really liking the characters and personalities :D I was disappointed i didnt do a lesbian route first, once i realised how good it was i was sad that i did it on my 2nd playthrough instead of first
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I had forgotten that was even a choice back when I started. I can see now where that would be the way to go, story wise. But for now, I'm sticking to a male MC. I do plan on replaying a female MC once it is complete.
 
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0.7.1 update is riddled with errors. is it a game bug or should i just try installing it from a different source?
 
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Bartimayus said:
Sometimes I find myself wondering if I'm wasting all of Rec's hard work by only playing FemMc but I can't help it as she's so well written and it's a nice change of pace playing as a woman instead.
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I wonder what change in this dialogue if you're playing male mc?
Katherine: She is my new GF
Katherine BF: W What. A....Are you a lesbian now?
 
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