VN Ren'Py Completed Bare Witness [Steam Build] [AlterWorlds]

[Tallion]

Since you apparently have very little knowledge of where you are, I will try to elucidate you. Don't read me wrong, I have no intention to put you down. This is just an attempt to bring you to us.

There are a few titles in these forums, that by one reason or another, create a fan base that goes above and beyond the normal. Bare Witness is one of them. In this case, by virtue of a good story, excellent characters and a quite clear dedication to it by the Dev team. It is, obviously, not the only case, but, it is one of them.

To us, that have been following this project, it matters very little if some renders are sub par. Sincerely, I've replayed this title a few times and never even noticed anything that I could call BAD. I'm sure they exist, either by comparing to the later ones, or comparing to other works. None of that truly mattered to me, and quite probably to the majority of the fans of this title.

So, when a fan base as united and cohesive as this one, is faced with a criticism, that may very well be warranted, don't be surprised that we present a strong front of protection. You see, all through this process this Dev team talked and showed up, they took a long time to create the endings, but they did a tremendously good job of them. For that, we feel a certain loyalty and a certain caring, and the last thing we want is to see their work disparaged.

Now, you are comparing the early work to the late work of an artist that evolved, learned and improved. Is it any surprise that the later ones are a LOT better? But, honestly, does that make the older ones that bad, that you think they need to be remade? And by the way, if after that the artist evolves again, should he continue ad eternum to remake his work in a perpetual cycle? When is it time to say... Enough! ?

What you read was the communal opinion that the "Enough!" part had been reached and it is now time for new work to be done.

Did I make sense? I hope you didn't feel put down, but enlightened, so that maybe you can find in yourself the humility to say "Thank You" and manage to enjoy one of the good titles that are available here.

Peace

Umm, yeah, sure...
It's funny to me how a little question of "when do the better renders start" came to this
And by the nature of my question, the label of "bad" was used since they are bad compared to the new ones even if they're ok. Don't think anyone really got triggered by this.
And it's not like i'm trying to bullshit, i did try to find the disclaimer, didn't find it and don't care to.

 

[tunahan43]

I finished the 5th ending of the game, it was really great. For me, Athena was one of the best characters I've seen in adult games. There are 11 endings, I think. I usually try to do all the endings in adult games. No matter what I did, I couldn't get the other endings. Maybe I'll get it from Steam in the future and try it. In addition, if it's not in your language, play it with Translator3000, I played it with it, it was fine.

 

[Maxus_mudo]

How is this a Harem game? If anything, it's a manslut/cheater game where as far as I've been able to achieve the maximum you can get is two, and that's only because they are already together. Every other ending is the MC going off with one and that's it. To have a 'harem' the LI's must be aware and accepting of the others.

Anyway, aside from that disappointment I found the story and the renders rather good.

 

[TonyMurray]

How is this a Harem game? If anything, it's a manslut/cheater game where as far as I've been able to achieve the maximum you can get is two, and that's only because they are already together. Every other ending is the MC going off with one and that's it. To have a 'harem' the LI's must be aware and accepting of the others.

Anyway, aside from that disappointment I found the story and the renders rather good.

There are a couple of throuples but there is also a 3-girl and a 4-girl harem that are available, where the girls are absolutely all aware and accepting of the others.

 

[Maxus_mudo]

There are a couple of throuples but there is also a 3-girl and a 4-girl harem that are available, where the girls are absolutely all aware and accepting of the others.

I guess I must have fkd up somewhere. Oh dear, I'll have to play it some more

 

[TonyMurray]

I guess I must have fkd up somewhere. Oh dear, I'll have to play it some more

It sounds like you've got Heidi and Athena down, so your next move if looking to add to that is to get points with Mora as well and invite her in when she delivers pizza - that starts you on the path to the 3-girl path (aka HAM). You can then add Sadie as well for the 4-girl path (aka MASH). There's also the Heidi–Sadie throuple, which (IMO) is the hardest path to get onto.

 

[Elhemeer]

I guess I must have fkd up somewhere. Oh dear, I'll have to play it some more

There's also the Heidi–Sadie throuple, which (IMO) is the hardest path to get onto.

That and the extremely elusive, but oh-so-obvious Athena-Sadie throuple path*

*there isn't one ...

 

[TonyMurray]

That and the extremely elusive, but oh-so-obvious Athena-Sadie throuple path*

*there isn't one ...

Every time, I have to have a sad shake of my head at that missed opportunity.

 

[Lovemaking]

Every time, I have to have a sad shake of my head at that missed opportunity.

Especially when you find out that Athena loves incest.

 

[TonyMurray]

Especially when you find out that Athena loves incest.

That's why it's a missed opportunity

 

[Aztalust]

Well, I never saw myself playing that kind of games. I started playing for the playful opportunities the game provided but... I stayed for the story and the way love is portrayed in the aftermath of your choices. It is possible that playing that game changed my life.

 

[Pajonk]

ISSUES WITH THIS GAME

1.Most girls you fuck in this game have small tits.
2. The pacing is way off, there is sex literally 5 minutes after starting new game. Breaks immersion and makes me feel like i didnt earn it. Awful pacing. Kills the game for me.
3. Most sex animations and poses are pretty bad.
4. Why so many closeups of genitals? Literally like 5cm away... Looks awful.

 

[TonyMurray]

ISSUES WITH THIS GAME

1.Most girls you fuck in this game have small tits.
2. The pacing is way off, there is sex literally 5 minutes after starting new game. Breaks immersion and makes me feel like i didnt earn it. Awful pacing. Kills the game for me.
3. Most sex animations and poses are pretty bad.
4. Why so many closeups of genitals? Literally like 5cm away... Looks awful.

I... didn't find issues with any of that. In fact, I thought a lot of what you said there lands on the positive side of things, if anything. So yeah, they are not issues with the game, just things that don't match your tastes.

 

[Rehwyn]

ISSUES WITH THIS GAME

1.Most girls you fuck in this game have small tits.
2. The pacing is way off, there is sex literally 5 minutes after starting new game. Breaks immersion and makes me feel like i didnt earn it. Awful pacing. Kills the game for me.
3. Most sex animations and poses are pretty bad.
4. Why so many closeups of genitals? Literally like 5cm away... Looks awful.

Counter-opinion to these:

1. If by "small" you mean realistic and varied in size from probably around a B to F cup, then I agree. Much prefer this to most the LIs having gravity-defying basketball breasts.
2. If you get to Val's sex scene (the first in the game) in 5 minutes, you aren't reading the text. And she has an early scene intentionally as part of her story. As for breaking immersion, some women are very sex forward if they're attracted to someone. Never felt off to me.
3. Personally I didn't think any of the animations were bad, but as the devs' first game they definitely improve over time as you get farther into the game. Same with poses and render quality in general.
4. Honestly never had this stick out to me in any way as a negative.

 

[Pixillin']

ISSUES WITH THIS GAME

1.Most girls you fuck in this game have small tits.
2. The pacing is way off, there is sex literally 5 minutes after starting new game. Breaks immersion and makes me feel like i didnt earn it. Awful pacing. Kills the game for me.
3. Most sex animations and poses are pretty bad.
4. Why so many closeups of genitals? Literally like 5cm away... Looks awful.

I've only played this all the way through once so far. After a couple of false starts, I locked onto Mora's path. I did it as a solo-path (I'm rarely into harems, or even throuples), and it was great. Maybe if you're trying to fuck everyone that's where you're running into problems. It isn't really that kind of game.

 

[Rehwyn]

I've only played this all the way through once so far. After a couple of false starts, I locked onto Mora's path. I did it as a solo-path (I'm rarely into harems, or even throuples), and it was great. Maybe if you're trying to fuck everyone that's where you're running into problems. It isn't really that kind of game.

You can actually do a path where you're sexually involved with 5 out of 6 main LIs without issues (MASH + Val), but it's a very specific path, and you have to either drop MASH or Val before the end.

 

[Pixillin']

You can actually do a path where you're sexually involved with 5 out of 6 main LIs without issues (MASH + Val), but it's a very specific path, and you have to either drop MASH or Val before the end.

Sure, I don't doubt it - Personally I had no regrets about the Mora solo route. I didn't feel like I was missing anything. My point was that if he felt there was too much sex, that he probably could have done something about that himself since (as far as I remember) none of it was mandatory.

 

[Rehwyn]

Sure, I don't doubt it - Personally I had no regrets about the Mora solo route. I didn't feel like I was missing anything. My point was that if he felt there was too much sex, that he probably could have done something about that himself since (as far as I remember) none of it was mandatory.

True enough. Honestly not sure if he was complaining about the amount of sex, or how early it showed up with certain LIs (sounds like most likely this one).

Sounds like they didn't like Val trying to pick up a younger attractive MC at a bar. She literally tells you "if you come with me, we're going to have sex" though, so definitely feel that's on them if they don't enjoy sex scenes unless they "earn" it and decided to follow her anyway.

Edit: By the way, all the endings are very different and good, imo. It's worthwhile doing other paths to see them if other LIs interest you too.

 

[Pixillin']

True enough. Honestly not sure if he was complaining about the amount of sex, or how early it showed up with certain LIs (sounds like most likely this one).

Sounds like they didn't like Val trying to pick up a younger attractive MC at a bar. She literally tells you "if you come with me, we're going to have sex" though, so definitely feel that's on them if they don't enjoy sex scenes unless they "earn" it and decided to follow her anyway.

Edit: By the way, all the endings are very different and good, imo. It's worthwhile doing other paths to see them if other LIs interest you too.

I might at some point, though (for me) Mora is miles above all of the others and I can't imagine playing this and ignoring her.

 

[Rehwyn]

I might at some point, though (for me) Mora is miles above all of the others and I can't imagine playing this and ignoring her.

Mora and Athena compete fiercely for #1 slot for me. But I like poly paths and the ones here are rather well done representations of that rather than generic harem, so I have multiple different endings with them that I enjoyed.

Definitely was hard turning either down to see some of the other endings though. And I still haven't done either Athena or Heidi's solo endings.