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LewdestKnight

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A fellow man of culture. Valeria is like a fine wine. The Bare Witness endings are the gold standard for me, still the best I've ever played. You owe it to yourself to give them all a try.
I'll give it a shot, I just wish I would have saved Valeria for last. I won't spoil it obviously, but the whole epilogue had me tearing up. AVNs aren't supposed to make you feel actual feelings.
 

felicemastronzo

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The developer deserves credit for really wanting to create a different ending for each possibility. Except for a few common scenes, such as the picnic by the lake, each ending tells a fairly different story.

Valeria and Mora seem to me to be the two most complete stories. Zenda has an interesting story, but it's too rushed and superficial in the beginning. She finds MC by chance and from there it's a continuous rush, making it difficult to feel anything. Sadie plays it safe, and in the end, almost everything is contained in that past we know little about.

I reluctantly put up with the usual moral blackmail of not choosing between Heidi and Athena, and in particular Athena, who is the one I liked the most, is the one whose path proceeds in fits and starts without any real continuity. She had leukaemia, loves video games, likes to direct horror films, is a motorcyclist, many things, but all of them sporadic and unimportant.

But for all these aspects, the problem is the brevity of the game, so we can be satisfied with the fact that the premises for giving each one an interesting background have been laid.
 

bolondro2

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I´m having throuble getting the HAM and MASH endings. I have invited Mora to pizza, being in Saddie path, gone to the dance and film context, everything seems fine...

And then Mora ask for commitment. If I say no, she breaks with me and I get Saddie path or Athena/Heidy path, depending if I go to a date with Saddie or not. . And If I say yes, I break with Saddie and Athena/Heidi and end in Mora path.

What I´m making wrong?
 

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I´m having throuble getting the HAM and MASH endings. I have invited Mora to pizza, being in Saddie path, gone to the dance and film context, everything seems fine...

And then Mora ask for commitment. If I say no, she breaks with me and I get Saddie path or Athena/Heidy path, depending if I go to a date with Saddie or not. . And If I say yes, I break with Saddie and Athena/Heidi and end in Mora path.

What I´m making wrong?
I had trouble my first time, too; it turned out I was lacking points for Heidi. Went back and chose to see her instead of Athena at the beginning of the game, and it worked then. So just look at a walkthrough to see what points you're missing out on and get them.
 
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felicemastronzo

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I´m having throuble getting the HAM and MASH endings. I have invited Mora to pizza, being in Saddie path, gone to the dance and film context, everything seems fine...

And then Mora ask for commitment. If I say no, she breaks with me and I get Saddie path or Athena/Heidy path, depending if I go to a date with Saddie or not. . And If I say yes, I break with Saddie and Athena/Heidi and end in Mora path.

What I´m making wrong?
I had trouble my first time, too; it turned out I was lacking points for Heidi. Went back and chose to see her instead of Athena at the beginning of the game, and it worked then. So just look at a walkthrough to see what points you're missing out on and get them.
Exactly, so you must initially accept Valeria and Zenda's courtship, but then choose Heidi and Athena when you have to choose between them and a date with one of the two.

I forgot, another choice to make to increase Heidi's points is to choose her when we have to decide whether to visit her or Athena in the early chapters.
 
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TonyMurray

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Exactly, so you must initially accept Valeria and Zenda's courtship, but then choose Heidi and Athena when you have to choose between them and a date with one of the two.
You don't need to accept Val or Zenda's advances - in my non-Val and non-Zenda saves, I rejected them at the first opportunity as they weren't going to be involved in my saves, and it didn't cause any issues.
 
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Elhemeer

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Exactly, so you must initially accept Valeria and Zenda's courtship, but then choose Heidi and Athena when you have to choose between them and a date with one of the two.

I forgot, another choice to make to increase Heidi's points is to choose her when we have to decide whether to visit her or Athena in the early chapters.
There is some flexibility ... for instance you can choose Heidi' option when talking to Val (not reading or gaming, can't remember if it's fitness, or athletics or dancing or what though) and then can get away with choosing to get to know Athena instead of Heidi, but you then have to get all Heidi points you can in that conversation.
 
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felicemastronzo

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There is some flexibility ... for instance you can choose Heidi' option when talking to Val (not reading or gaming, can't remember if it's fitness, or athletics or dancing or what though) and then can get away with choosing to get to know Athena instead of Heidi, but you then have to get all Heidi points you can in that conversation.
"exercising" which is then mainly needed to win the dance competition.

Since all these precautions are essentially for multiple finals, while for individual finals the tolerance is greater, we might as well not take any risks in maximizing points
 
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tswag

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Using the power of my Witness Protection Magic, I turned Sadie into MC's sister instead of his cousin. Right click save it to the folder called "game" as an RPY type file. Should be compatible with all versions and mods.

EDIT: Everyone is welcome to use / not use this patch. Please don't insult me, the developer, or other users over it.
I know this was a long time ago, so no one is probably paying any attention to this, but Sadie refers to the MC's dad as "Uncle Mike." If they were siblings, she'd call him "dad," too.
 

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I know this was a long time ago, so no one is probably paying any attention to this, but Sadie refers to the MC's dad as "Uncle Mike." If they were siblings, she'd call him "dad," too.
Sorry about that, looks like an outdated version was attached to the post. Should be fixed now if you redownload.
 
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3J1E

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Just started the game and it looks good, but just had a quick question before choosing a path. I usually only play solo routes, don't really have any interest at all in harem/sharing/throuple routes, just not my thing!

I know Heidi and Athena have solo paths, just wanted to know how quickly they drop the other girl? Don't want to waste time if most of their routes are threesome content and they only become solo at the end, would leave them and go for one of the others...
 

felicemastronzo

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Just started the game and it looks good, but just had a quick question before choosing a path. I usually only play solo routes, don't really have any interest at all in harem/sharing/throuple routes, just not my thing!

I know Heidi and Athena have solo paths, just wanted to know how quickly they drop the other girl? Don't want to waste time if most of their routes are threesome content and they only become solo at the end, would leave them and go for one of the others...
If you pursue only one of them you will not have mandatory threesome, at first you will only be able to witness scenes between the two of them. The relationship between the two girls breaks down towards the final part of the game
 
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