Marc9

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Good game, and I liked the NTR route and sharing the wife, it would only include sounds of women moaning during sex, similar to what happens in Lust couple duet.

it would also include more adventures with the husband watching his wife having sex with other men, on a sharing route similar to what is in Duet couple love lust and finding another husband, for example, who also likes to share his wife and scenes of the 2 husbands watching their wives having sex with other guys.
 
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To this day I don't understand why some people who say they don't like the themes play games with TAGS NTR, Sharing Wives, Netorase.

It's very stupid to criticize something that was made for people who like a certain topic. While you don't appreciate it, thousands of other people like these tags and play these games. Something very simple but many still don't understand.

The same goes for anything with these tags, Doujishins - hentais...
 

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To this day I don't understand why some people who say they don't like the themes play games with TAGS NTR, Sharing Wives, Netorase.

It's very stupid to criticize something that was made for people who like a certain topic. While you don't appreciate it, thousands of other people like these tags and play these games. Something very simple but many still don't understand.

The same goes for anything with these tags, Doujishins - hentais...
People who complain about NTR/sharing while playing games of that genre are peeps who secretly like NTR/Sharing but hate to accept their fetish that's all,so they keep whining because they hate themselves for having that kind fetish.
Otherwise,why would someone follow/play a game that has a particular genre you dislike,makes no sense...especially since these are just adult games.
 

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People debate all kinds of stuff from the game, like some of the following:
- you might love NTR but want the romance stuff to spill into it,
like some gamer on this very page, who wanted exactly that.

Result: after I engaged in a conversation, they put me on ignore when I simply assured them and any other player here that this dev managed to make the total divide between NTR and Romance in this game.

Wishful thinking of turning NTR into romance or Romance into NTR is just that - wishful thinking,
because this game will never have that, by design.
To this day I don't understand why some people who say they don't like the themes play games with TAGS NTR, Sharing Wives, Netorase.

It's very stupid to criticize something that was made for people who like a certain topic. While you don't appreciate it, thousands of other people like these tags and play these games. Something very simple but many still don't understand.

The same goes for anything with these tags, Doujishins - hentais...
We are supposedly all adults here, hence we have supposedly went through our formal training in school:
- of life, of university, of college, of family, whatever we did, we have some baggage of information that includes
the extensive knowledge of what precisely is NTR- trashing of a love story.

You cannot have actual NTR without the love story - you cannot have Romance with NTR - they are total opposits.

People who complain about NTR/sharing while playing games of that genre are peeps who secretly like NTR/Sharing but hate to accept their fetish that's all,so they keep whining because they hate themselves for having that kind fetish.
Otherwise,why would someone follow/play a game that has a particular genre you dislike,makes no sense...especially since these are just adult games.
Whomever plays the Romance route likes to play pretend they favor that over NTR and is talking down the NTR route.
Same goes for the NTR players - they will talk down the Romance path.

This is how it always goes with games that feature such divergent and diverse paths that are totally alien to eachother.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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People debate all kinds of stuff from the game, like some of the following:
- you might love NTR but want the romance stuff to spill into it,
like some gamer on this very page, who wanted exactly that.

Result: after I engaged in a conversation, they put me on ignore when I simply assured them and any other player here that this dev managed to make the total divide between NTR and Romance in this game.

Wishful thinking of turning NTR into romance or Romance into NTR is just that - wishful thinking,
because this game will never have that, by design.


We are supposedly all adults here, hence we have supposedly went through our formal training in school:
- of life, of university, of college, of family, whatever we did, we have some baggage of information that includes
the extensive knowledge of what precisely is NTR- trashing of a love story.

You cannot have actual NTR without the love story - you cannot have Romance with NTR - they are total opposits.



Whomever plays the Romance route likes to play pretend they favor that over NTR and is talking down the NTR route.
Same goes for the NTR players - they will talk down the Romance path.

This is how it always goes with games that feature such divergent and diverse paths that are totally alien to eachother.
This assumes a false dichtomy where there's no swinging/sharing middleground.
 
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Slick Bean

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Thanks for being exactly the angaged gamer your status implies, player.
This assumes a false dichtomy where there's no swinging/sharing middleground.
Would you say such activities are relegated to the NTR route speciffically? Because when the routes get divided, there are two guys coming to steal the girls - this - two guys + two girls - arrangement sure makes it look like swinging or sharing or both would exclusively mean those NTR route guys and girls doing it - nothing of such kinks seem to be assured for the Romance path.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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Thanks for being exactly the angaged gamer your status implies, player.

Would you say such activities are relegated to the NTR route speciffically? Because when the routes get divided, there are two guys coming to steal the girls - this two guys two girls arrangement sure makes it look like swinging or sharing would exclusively mean those NTR route guys and girls doing it - nothing of such kinks seeem to be assured for the Romance path.
Yep, I imagine they'll be only under the NTR umbrella, but we get used to it, as swinging/sharing themes are often relegated here.
 

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People debate all kinds of stuff from the game, like some of the following:
- you might love NTR but want the romance stuff to spill into it,
like some gamer on this very page, who wanted exactly that.

Result: after I engaged in a conversation, they put me on ignore when I simply assured them and any other player here that this dev managed to make the total divide between NTR and Romance in this game.

Wishful thinking of turning NTR into romance or Romance into NTR is just that - wishful thinking,
because this game will never have that, by design.


We are supposedly all adults here, hence we have supposedly went through our formal training in school:
- of life, of university, of college, of family, whatever we did, we have some baggage of information that includes
the extensive knowledge of what precisely is NTR- trashing of a love story.

You cannot have actual NTR without the love story - you cannot have Romance with NTR - they are total opposits.



Whomever plays the Romance route likes to play pretend they favor that over NTR and is talking down the NTR route.
Same goes for the NTR players - they will talk down the Romance path.

This is how it always goes with games that feature such divergent and diverse paths that are totally alien to eachother.
I like and play both routes.
 
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Wishful thinking of turning NTR into romance or Romance into NTR is just that - wishful thinking,
because this game will never have that, by design.
This assumes a false dichtomy where there's no swinging/sharing middleground.
Yep, I imagine they'll be only under the NTR umbrella, but we get used to it, as swinging/sharing themes are often relegated here.
Hi you two!
I agree with Slick insofar that the Typist really did separate romance and NTR, thank God, since one of my biggest berserk buttons are developers who try to shove NTR down our throats while blabbing about how that is romance/sharing/swinging. NTR is anathema to BOTH romance and sharing/swinging! I had a very heated discussion in another game thread where the developer is unable to get that fact and deludes himself he threw the sharing lovers a bone with a simply redressed NTR path. No thank you!

I also agree with you Pr0GamerJohnny , in that sharing/swinging occupies a middleground between romance and NTR, but lies closer to romance than NTR. NTR is inherently destructive, while romance and sharing/swinging only are in specific cases.
I agree with you too, that the Typist has put sharing under the NTRish umbrella, but we can e.g. play a very nice sharing route with zero NTR in it! That is thumbs up!

My crtitic of TheTypist was mainly his long radio silences coupled with completely blown update promises, less the story, which in this remake looks very promising! And the fact that we can play romance paths and two really nice steamy sharing/swinging paths with no NTR in it is simply great!
There are still NTR paths in the game for the NTR lovers but that is ok in my book as long as we can keep the romance and sharing paths clean of it. Currently it seems so.
I for one look forward to the next BILH update!
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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I for one look forward to the next BILH update!
I for one look forward to the one after next BILH update!

My crtitic of TheTypist was mainly his long radio silences coupled with completely blown update promises, less the story, which in this remake looks very promising! And the fact that we can play romance paths and two really nice steamy sharing/swinging paths with no NTR in it is simply great!
Indeed, and time will tell if this is the case this time around.
 
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I mean, she's just sexually adventurous and open minded. On the romance/love path she is still down to do all kinds of kinky and wild shit. I never once have gotten the feeling that she doesn't love and care about the MC, though I do have nearly max love points with her, maybe that plays a factor in it. She's definitely a horny and sexually outgoing person, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. the only things I care about is non submissive MC's, which luckily in this game you get to steer your MC to be which you prefer, and a loyal girlfriend who considers the MC's feelings. So far on my high love point Claire playthrough, she hasn't cheated, and always considers the MC's feelings.

If this ever changes, and it seems like she no longer cares for the MC, then that would be disappointing. However I haven't gotten that from this AVN so far, and personally I love Claire. Definitely have never viewed it as a relationship for show. Zoey seems crazy about the MC, I won't deny that, but that doesn't diminish Claire and the MC's relationship in any way for me. Especially since for now at least, I can have both. And Zoey will likely also become more open, she's just very inexperienced and less extroverted compared to Claire, that's something you've got to keep in mind.




I'm sorry to contradict, but Claire in the final scene, waits for MC to fall asleep, to go back to Damien and get fucked, then she goes back to the room and is watching MC while he sleeps, she says to herself, you don't know what I did, but Mc pretends to sleep, and makes a sad face, then the game ends, Claire once she tries the path of betrayal moves further and further away, it's not true love with MC, Zoe shows true love, just see how she looks at him, how she tells him she would anything for him, even things he doesn't want, then if you make her fuck Damien, she looks at MC holding his hand, and while Damien cums, Zoe doesn't even have an orgasm, but asks MC to make love with her, this is love . Claire is only the temporary companion of adventure for sex, a couple that no longer exists.
 

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I'm sorry to contradict, but Claire in the final scene, waits for MC to fall asleep, to go back to Damien and get fucked, then she goes back to the room and is watching MC while he sleeps, she says to herself, you don't know what I did, but Mc pretends to sleep, and makes a sad face, then the game ends, Claire once she tries the path of betrayal moves further and further away, it's not true love with MC, Zoe shows true love, just see how she looks at him, how she tells him she would anything for him, even things he doesn't want, then if you make her fuck Damien, she looks at MC holding his hand, and while Damien cums, Zoe doesn't even have an orgasm, but asks MC to make love with her, this is love . Claire is only the temporary companion of adventure for sex, a couple that no longer exists.
That ONLY happens on the NTR path though, which you only get if you pick the choice to let her have free reign and don't have sufficient love points. I never denied that Zoe loves the MC, I was just playing devils advocate, by saying Zoe was willing and even eager to lose her virginity to Damien. Therefore saying that Claire doesn't love the MC because she has sexual desires and fantasies that she's eager to live out, with the MC's permission, is kind of a moot point. Sure there's the possibility she cheats depending on both choices and points, though this doesn't prove that she isn't in love with the MC.
 

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That ONLY happens on the NTR path though, which you only get if you pick the choice to let her have free reign and don't have sufficient love points. I never denied that Zoe loves the MC, I was just playing devils advocate, by saying Zoe was willing and even eager to lose her virginity to Damien. Therefore saying that Claire doesn't love the MC because she has sexual desires and fantasies that she's eager to live out, with the MC's permission, is kind of a moot point. Sure there's the possibility she cheats depending on both choices and points, though this doesn't prove that she isn't in love with the MC.




of course, but the way in which the two girls relate to each other compared to MC, enhances a Zoe in love much more than Claire, let's be honest, Claire even in the no ntr path demonstrates more lust and desire, there are more moments in which she only thinks about herself herself, you can't deny this, just look at how Zoe looks at MC, Claire instead thinks about sex and others, even when she has sex with Damine together with Zoe and MC, she is much sluttier, she has no respect for MC in that moment, she is only interested in herself, everything else about Zoe,
 

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of course, but the way in which the two girls relate to each other compared to MC, enhances a Zoe in love much more than Claire, let's be honest, Claire even in the no ntr path demonstrates more lust and desire, there are more moments in which she only thinks about herself herself, you can't deny this, just look at how Zoe looks at MC, Claire instead thinks about sex and others, even when she has sex with Damine together with Zoe and MC, she is much sluttier, she has no respect for MC in that moment, she is only interested in herself, everything else about Zoe,
Ok, then look at it from this lens instead. Claire and the MC have been in a relationship for quite a while, I don't remember if it said exactly how long, but I'd guess at least a year or two if they're living together. Zoe has had feelings for him, but is just now admitting those feelings to him, and her developing relationship with him is fresh. So of course she is looking at him more lovingly compared to Claire who has likely already past the honeymoon phase with the MC. This still doesn't prove that Claire loves the MC more or less than Zoe though. I know many couples personally who have been together for a decade or two, that don't look at each other or display the same kind of affection, that Zoe does towards to MC.

I don't deny that Zoe does show more affection, and is overall sweeter, but again, it's a fresh relationship and also Zoe and Claire have differing personalities. Not everyone shows love and affection the same way to begin with, another thing to keep in mind.

*edit* It seems some peoples problem with Claire, is that she simply isn't as affection towards the MC as Zoe is, and is also not as selfless perhaps. She's also way hornier and has a seemingly higher sex drive and is more explorative, so this somehow equates to her not loving him.
 

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Ok, then look at it from this lens instead. Claire and the MC have been in a relationship for quite a while, I don't remember if it said exactly how long, but I'd guess at least a year or two if they're living together. Zoe has had feelings for him, but is just now admitting those feelings to him, and her developing relationship with him is fresh. So of course she is looking at him more lovingly compared to Claire who has likely already past the honeymoon phase with the MC. This still doesn't prove that Claire loves the MC more or less than Zoe though. I know many couples personally who have been together for a decade or two, that don't look at each other or display the same kind of affection, that Zoe does towards to MC.

I don't deny that Zoe does show more affection, and is overall sweeter, but again, it's a fresh relationship and also Zoe and Claire have differing personalities. Not everyone shows love and affection the same way to begin with, another thing to keep in mind.



Thanks for the comparison
 
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I don't deny that Zoe does show more affection, and is overall sweeter, but again, it's a fresh relationship and also Zoe and Claire have differing personalities. Not everyone shows love and affection the same way to begin with, another thing to keep in mind.

*edit* It seems some peoples problem with Claire, is that she simply isn't as affection towards the MC as Zoe is, and is also not as selfless perhaps. She's also way hornier and has a seemingly higher sex drive and is more explorative, so this somehow equates to her not loving him.
I think that's a fair summary, though if we're assuming this story happens in it's own world removed from the prior version of game (season1 or whatever, and I could be wrong that it's viewed as continuation), if that's the case, then regardless of initial personalities the first time swinging is a crucial moment to reassure the partner everythings good and they're emotionally invested to them. Like you said, it's not their honeymoon anymore where they're head over heels, but in a different way their first time swinging IS new territory most people would be sensitive above.

If I behave like Chad Thundercock life of the party normally, brash and confident around everyone including my girlfriend, then if her and I tried some swingers club for the first time, it would be very reasonable of her to expect me to tone it down a little while jumping into unknown waters - be checking in with her, stuff like that (even if I didnt do that normally).

Claire plays into the phony "double date" thing a little too realistically... (though I suppose the exact same could be said for Zoey :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: )
 
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