VN Ren'Py Because I Love Her [Part 2 NTR Update Zoey] [The Typist]

[fbass]

I have this problem too. Kind of worrying

Probably your security settings?

 

[OffWorlder]

Are group sex unavoidable in the NTR paths?

Not really a big fan of MMF sex scenes

 

[LoveWhores]

Are group sex unavoidable in the NTR paths?

Not really a big fan of MMF sex scenes

MMF are the best scenes - the only one better then MMF is a GANGBANG where three or more guys(preferably all of them been black) fuck a hot sexy girl all at once,having all her holes filled and all her nahds busy too Let's hope at some point the female MC( the girlfriend) will be able to do that in any of the two NTR paths - cuckolding(cheating) and cucking(the type of sharing where she's been fucked infront of her boyfriend)

 

[MaxMarsh0012]

anyone knows when's the next update?

 

[TheTypist]

anyone knows when's the next update?

I’m almost done I need a couple more days and I’ll be launching.

 

[SinisterPortal]

Played this a bit and quality-wise it is a very good novel for sure. And I mean both visuals and writing. The current rating is way lower than it should be for this AVN. Is it because of the first part, its rating was carried over to the second part (which is a remake as I understand it)?

Also, some choices hint that there's an option for sharing only John (the MC), while Clare (the gf) is not shared, will there really be such a route?

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

Played this a bit and quality-wise it is a very good novel for sure. And I mean both visuals and writing. The current rating is way lower than it should be for this AVN. Is it because of the first part, its rating was carried over to the second part (which is a remake as I understand it)?

I hold the same opinion. Honestly, I think the lower rating is mostly because some people really dislike NTR and can’t separate their personal dislike of that kink from the quality of the game. It’s similar with femdom games too, they tend to get rated lower regardless of how well-made they are, just because the content isn’t for everyone.

I played the first one as well and had a lot of fun with it. The quality felt about the same, though I’d say the images in this new version are rendered a bit better. So yeah, I really think it just comes down to the kink.

 

[Grizloy]

I hold the same opinion. Honestly, I think the lower rating is mostly because some people really dislike NTR and can’t separate their personal dislike of that kink from the quality of the game. It’s similar with femdom games too, they tend to get rated lower regardless of how well-made they are, just because the content isn’t for everyone.

I played the first one as well and had a lot of fun with it. The quality felt about the same, though I’d say the images in this new version are rendered a bit better. So yeah, I really think it just comes down to the kink.

I know that it's trendy to complain about people who don't like NTR, but if you'll take a moment to actually check on the negative reviews for this game, you'll notice that almost every 1 and 2 star review complains about either lack of direction ("why is there a love route in my clearly NTR game???"), very slow release schedule or lack of corruption content...

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

I know that it's trendy to complain about people who don't like NTR, but if you'll take a moment to actually check on the negative reviews for this game, you'll notice that almost every 1 and 2 star review complains about either lack of direction ("why is there a love route in my clearly NTR game???"), very slow release schedule or lack of corruption content...

It is a "trendy" thing to say because there really is a lot of hate for NTR, and I don’t think pointing that out undermines what I’m saying, if anything really, it reinforces it. Your example actually proves what I’m saying: "why is there a love route in my clearly NTR game???" isn’t a critique of the game’s writing, design, or technical quality. That’s someone reviewing based on personal preferences & expectations and using that as justification for a low score.

Sure, complaints about pacing or route structure are valid, but even those often come with a tone of frustration over the kink direction rather than constructive feedback. When a game is visually polished, well-written, and delivers exactly what it sets out to do, dragging its score down because it doesn’t cater to a certain preference feels unfair. That’s exactly why players like us, who judge the game for what it is, are confused about why it’s rated so low despite being well-made in our opinion.

This isn’t unique to this title either, games centered on heavy kinks like NTR or femdom consistently get rated lower regardless of quality. That pattern makes it hard to deny that personal bias plays a much bigger role in ratings than many people want to admit.

 

[asus579160]

Hi people ! The game is very well done. Of course, NTR is not the most loved genre but still, the game is of very good quality so my thanks to the dev.

 

[LoveWhores]

It is a "trendy" thing to say because there really is a lot of hate for NTR, and I don’t think pointing that out undermines what I’m saying, if anything really, it reinforces it. Your example actually proves what I’m saying: "why is there a love route in my clearly NTR game???" isn’t a critique of the game’s writing, design, or technical quality. That’s someone reviewing based on personal preferences & expectations and using that as justification for a low score.

Sure, complaints about pacing or route structure are valid, but even those often come with a tone of frustration over the kink direction rather than constructive feedback. When a game is visually polished, well-written, and delivers exactly what it sets out to do, dragging its score down because it doesn’t cater to a certain preference feels unfair. That’s exactly why players like us, who judge the game for what it is, are confused about why it’s rated so low despite being well-made in our opinion.

This isn’t unique to this title either, games centered on heavy kinks like NTR or femdom consistently get rated lower regardless of quality. That pattern makes it hard to deny that personal bias plays a much bigger role in ratings than many people want to admit.

You are mistaken - most of the people actually really like NTR,like let's say 75% of all people. The problem is another - from this 75% there are a lot of people who just can't admite that they like NTR for different reasons - just like some people can't admite that they are lsbians,bisexuals or gays. There are also the so-called "haters" that no matter if they like something or not they will always deny it and spam(troll) about it because that gives them pleasure,they just like doing that - look at plenty of the popular singers and actors/actresses - they all have a lot of this "haters" but they are still very popular and the fact that the haters give attention to them only proves that they actually like them too because otherwise they will not even open their song or movie and not give them even more attention making them even more popular Also,of this 75% that like NTR there are different types of people - they are hetero,bisexual,lesbians and gays - they may like NTR but to not like something else and not to mention the fact that there are different types of NTR and some may like cheating(netorare - cuckolding) other may like sharing (netorase - cuckoldry or for shorter cucking) or some specific kind of sharing (like swinging) but may not like the other types of NTR.
Right now the game looks that it has mostly "sharing" options and not too much content like some other games and that's the whole problem for the players - because some may want to play sharing,other to play cheating,other may want to play lesbians(Chloe and her sister for example),others may want to play MC been gay or bisexual and of course having option to play the love(romantic) route or one of the two MC to be in a love route while the other been cheating... There can be plenty of mixes but like i did say right now the game seems to have mostly sharing options and that's why it may look to you that the players don't like NTR - not because they don't like NTR,but because not all of them are into sharing and they want more options available like more cheating for example or been able to play the male MC one way while the female MC in another way

 

[Grizloy]

It is a "trendy" thing to say because there really is a lot of hate for NTR, and I don’t think pointing that out undermines what I’m saying, if anything really, it reinforces it. Your example actually proves what I’m saying: "why is there a love route in my clearly NTR game???" isn’t a critique of the game’s writing, design, or technical quality. That’s someone reviewing based on personal preferences & expectations and using that as justification for a low score.

Sure, complaints about pacing or route structure are valid, but even those often come with a tone of frustration over the kink direction rather than constructive feedback. When a game is visually polished, well-written, and delivers exactly what it sets out to do, dragging its score down because it doesn’t cater to a certain preference feels unfair. That’s exactly why players like us, who judge the game for what it is, are confused about why it’s rated so low despite being well-made in our opinion.

This isn’t unique to this title either, games centered on heavy kinks like NTR or femdom consistently get rated lower regardless of quality. That pattern makes it hard to deny that personal bias plays a much bigger role in ratings than many people want to admit.

No idea about femdom games, but in case with NTR-oriented games - very few people who aren't fans of the genre bother to actually write a bad review; most of the times their "hatred" is limited to leaving "I hate NTR, is it avoidable?" comment. And again, if you'll actually check the reviews for (relatively) low-rated NTR games - there's always many complains about writing/pacing/lack of coherent corruption. And this isn't limited to just a certain fetish - you can find such reviews for games of any genre/fetish. So - just a wild theory of mine - but maybe these people aren't genre-haters, but instead are fans of it, genuinely unsatisfied by the mediocre content? And if you disagree with them and believe that certain game/s is an impeccable masterpiece - maybe both your and their opinions are purely subjective and both have a right to exist?

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

No idea about femdom games, but in case with NTR-oriented games - very few people who aren't fans of the genre bother to actually write a bad review; most of the times their "hatred" is limited to leaving "I hate NTR, is it avoidable?" comment. And again, if you'll actually check the reviews for (relatively) low-rated NTR games - there's always many complains about writing/pacing/lack of coherent corruption. And this isn't limited to just a certain fetish - you can find such reviews for games of any genre/fetish. So - just a wild theory of mine - but maybe these people aren't genre-haters, but instead are fans of it, genuinely unsatisfied by the mediocre content? And if you disagree with them and believe that certain game/s is an impeccable masterpiece - maybe both your and their opinions are purely subjective and both have a right to exist?

Okay, I get what you're saying, but I still think you're missing my main point. You're trying to separate the "disappointed fan" from the "hater," but in a niche genre like this, the line between a “disappointed fan" and a “hater" is incredibly thin. A lot of negative reviews I’ve seen (not just about this game) aren’t about technical flaws, they’re about unmet expectations or content choices.

For example, a review saying, “I’m a fan of NTR, but this game has a love route, so I’m giving it a 1-star review” isn’t evaluating writing quality, pacing, or execution. It’s a preference-based review, and it’s punishing the game for not fitting a very specific fantasy. That’s still a form of bias, even if it comes from someone inside the community rather than an outsider who dislikes the kink altogether.

I’m not saying all low ratings are unfair, valid critiques about pacing, route structure, or character development are important. But if most of the backlash boils down to, “This wasn’t the exact kind of NTR I wanted,” then those scores are being shaped more by taste than quality. And when this happens repeatedly in niche genres, it creates the impression that kink-heavy games are “low quality” even when they’re polished and well-written, which is what [[SinisterPortal]] was wondering in the first place.

That’s why I push back on the idea that low scores are a clear indicator of mediocrity. Sometimes, they’re just a reflection of how hard it is to satisfy a very specific audience. When a game clearly delivers on its premise but takes creative risks, I think it deserves to be judged on execution, not just whether it matches a specific fantasy.

 

[LoveWhores]

the line between a “disappointed fan" and a “hater" is incredibly thin.

Are you serious? There's a huge line between a "disappointed fan" and a "hater". Or perhaps you don't really know what a hater is? Most of the haters are actually people who are really jelaous because of the success of other people most specifically the "famous people" and because of that they are trying to troll them every time they have a chance,because that way the hater feels better - he/she doesn't want to try to achieve a fame like them even if it's too hard or perhaps because he/she knows it's too hard for him and instead that he/she is trolling the famous person(or a good made it game or anything else that has a success) - the thing is that the hater will never admite about that and it will always deny it no matter what,not to mention that a lot of them will even deny the fact that they are haters - when they are with friends they enjoy let's say the famous artist for example let's say "Beyonce",then later when they are alone infront of their computers or phones they start trolling against the artist which also makes the hater a hypocrite too.
A dissapointed fan is not a hater - the fan likes something or someone,let's say for example the game series "Assassin's Creed" - he/she likes the first ones more while another one likes more the new open world ones with more quests and stuff - the next game it happens to be once again a open world one which makes the fans that did like the first games more once again a bit dissapointed while the other ones very excited. The ones that get dissapointed will express that they are a bit dissapointed even if the game it's a good for a open world game and has a high quality stuff but they would still preffer the game to be more like the first ones and they will also express that they still have hope and that in future they will see their hopes come true,but they are not gonna troll the game like haters do - if they happen to be so much dissapointed they will give up on the game,stop supporting it and find another game they like to play and support,that's what a dissapointed fan will do - the hater no matter if he/she knows that the game is really good will troll it with heavy comments just because he is jelaous of how someone else manage to have such a success,make a really good game and win plenty of money while he/she is struggle and always happen to have some kind of problems. Like i say,there's a huge difference between a dissapointed fan and a hater.

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

Are you serious? There's a huge line between a "disappointed fan" and a "hater". Or perhaps you don't really know what a hater is? Most of the haters are actually people who are really jelaous because of the success of other people most specifically the "famous people" and because of that they are trying to troll them every time they have a chance,because that way the hater feels better - he/she doesn't want to try to achieve a fame like them even if it's too hard or perhaps because he/she knows it's too hard for him and instead that he/she is trolling the famous person(or a good made it game or anything else that has a success) - the thing is that the hater will never admite about that and it will always deny it no matter what,not to mention that a lot of them will even deny the fact that they are haters - when they are with friends they enjoy let's say the famous artist for example let's say "Beyonce",then later when they are alone infront of their computers or phones they start trolling against the artist which also makes the hater a hypocrite too.
A dissapointed fan is not a hater - the fan likes something or someone,let's say for example the game series "Assassin's Creed" - he/she likes the first ones more while another one likes more the new open world ones with more quests and stuff - the next game it happens to be once again a open world one which makes the fans that did like the first games more once again a bit dissapointed while the other ones very excited. The ones that get dissapointed will express that they are a bit dissapointed even if the game it's a good for a open world game and has a high quality stuff but they would still preffer the game to be more like the first ones and they will also express that they still have hope and that in future they will see their hopes come true,but they are not gonna troll the game like haters do - if they happen to be so much dissapointed they will give up on the game,stop supporting it and find another game they like to play and support,that's what a dissapointed fan will do - the hater no matter if he/she knows that the game is really good will troll it with heavy comments just because he is jelaous of how someone else manage to have such a success,make a really good game and win plenty of money while he/she is struggle and always happen to have some kind of problems. Like i say,there's a huge difference between a dissapointed fan and a hater.

That’s an interesting take lol, but I disagree.

Besides, I think you’re getting too hung up on defining the difference between a "hater" and a "disappointed fan." That distinction doesn’t really change my point: in niche genres, a lot of low ratings come from unmet expectations rather than actual quality issues. My point is that regardless of what we call them, these ratings often reflect personal preferences and disappointment rather than technical flaws. Even if a reviewer isn’t trolling, giving a 1-star review just because the game doesn’t match their exact fantasy still distorts how its quality is perceived. That’s what I’m highlighting.

Ironically, what you said actually supports this. You said the issue is that the game has "mostly sharing options", while some players wanted "cheating" options instead. But that’s not a critique of the writing, art, or technical execution, it’s about the content not aligning with a very specific fantasy. That directly proves my point: the low scores are rooted in personal bias, not the game being poorly made.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That’s an interesting take lol, but I disagree.

Besides, I think you’re getting too hung up on defining the difference between a "hater" and a "disappointed fan." That distinction doesn’t really change my point: in niche genres, a lot of low ratings come from unmet expectations rather than actual quality issues. My point is that regardless of what we call them, these ratings often reflect personal preferences and disappointment rather than technical flaws. Even if a reviewer isn’t trolling, giving a 1-star review just because the game doesn’t match their exact fantasy still distorts how its quality is perceived. That’s what I’m highlighting.

Ironically, what you said actually supports this. You said the issue is that the game has "mostly sharing options", while some players wanted "cheating" options instead. But that’s not a critique of the writing, art, or technical execution, it’s about the content not aligning with a very specific fantasy. That directly proves my point: the low scores are rooted in personal bias, not the game being poorly made.

It's for this reason why I think it's so silly that they try to heavily police reviews. At the end of the day, if people don't like it for the wrong reasons (just as people often simp for games for the wrong reasons), nothing will stop them from cloaking those preferences in otherwise neutral language.

 

[ThrowAwayThisTablet]

It's for this reason why I think it's so silly that they try to heavily police reviews. At the end of the day, if people don't like it for the wrong reasons (just as people often simp for games for the wrong reasons), nothing will stop them from cloaking those preferences in otherwise neutral language.

Yeah, that’s just the sad reality of the situation. I’m simply offering [[SinisterPortal]] an explanation for why this game is rated so low.

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah, that’s just the sad reality of the situation. I’m simply offering [[SinisterPortal]] an explanation for why this game is rated so low.

Yeah I learnt awhile ago reviews on AVN's are meaningless to me and I don't trust a single 1 of them anymore , it's better to play and judge for my self. Review to me are there to read just for a good laugh at the dumb ones I see (imo).

 

[vandal.h]

You are mistaken - most of the people actually really like NTR,like let's say 75% of all people. The problem is another - from this 75% there are a lot of people who just can't admite that they like NTR for different reasons - just like some people can't admite that they are lsbians,bisexuals or gays.

It must be fun to make up random statistics. I think 99% of people don't like NTR. The 1% that do are just closeted and can't admit that they are attracted to dick instead of pussy.

I only played this game because the remake had a non-ntr route from the very beginning. I ignored the original NTR focused one. If someone hates NTR they won't even look at this game.

 

[salocinch75]

Hi everyone, relatively new here... I played the latest update and I love the game, did both playthrough and did both swinging scenes Zoey/Paul and Claire/Paul... my question: those 2 scenes did not open in the replay gallery, is this right? and if it is, why? It is nice to have all unlocked scenes from the playthrough be in the gallery... or am I getting something wrong?