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PhantomStranger

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Oct 23, 2017
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It's Alia, what did you expect? She's gonna be the Queen-Bitch of the Universe real soon. I consider myself a fan and I am happy.
Serious (but longer) answer:
Good for you, kind sir.
I, for one, would have appreciated at least a modicum of grace and sensuality from someone with literally thousands of years of experience in seduction and manipulation.

Trying to dominate Paul by squeezing his balls + "gimme gimme gimme" seems a bit too direct and coarse even for the Baron, who was a master manipulator in his own right. That was true even when he possessed Alia in the books and used her sexuality for his own ends.

Non-so-serious (but shorter) answer:
Queen-Bitch needs to be Bitch-slapped. A lot. :LOL:
 

dudeguy23

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I'm starting to wonder why he didn't just wait to release the new update when he already colored and stuff some of the wips...
Mostly because he has this one release a month module, even when it's pretty apparent that the update didn't even take a week to make.

Edit: now that i think about it, he also probably wanted to get one more patreon release before having to change websites.
 

diomferca

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Nov 25, 2017
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Hello all,
Sorry tu jump in, I'm playing the mobile version and I can't get two scenes, one with navigator, and one with a fremen girl i suppose.
Someone can help me?
Looked around but can not find anything...
 

PhantomStranger

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Hello all,
Sorry tu jump in, I'm playing the mobile version and I can't get two scenes, one with navigator, and one with a fremen girl i suppose.
Someone can help me?
Looked around but can not find anything...
Navigator = increase your spice harvest rate until you reach "spice monopoly".
Go to the navigator, tell them her you control the spice, ask to enter the tank. Have tit sex with her
Do it again, only this time ask to relax = super cushions :p

Chani = choose her as your concubine, she will be imprisoned during the palace attack. Choose to create a ghola of the guard commander, infiltrate the palace and go into the prison to watch the scene.
 

reynold.biplane

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Non-so-serious (but shorter) answer:
Queen-Bitch needs to be Bitch-slapped. A lot. :LOL:
Well, I'm not averse to Alia getting her comeuppance in the end. :) (Preferably of the sexual kind and not
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Paul still has that paddle from punishing Yueh.)


Another point about why I think David chose to make Alia behave in this way:
I think David is once again reluctant about the type of content the fans are asking him to make, this time for understandable reasons. It feels like he wants to "cushion the blow" of loli content by having her behave in a controlling manner.
 

diomferca

New Member
Nov 25, 2017
10
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Navigator = increase your spice harvest rate until you reach "spice monopoly".
Go to the navigator, tell them her you control the spice, ask to enter the tank. Have tit sex with her
Do it again, only this time ask to relax = super cushions :p

Chani = choose her as your concubine, she will be imprisoned during the palace attack. Choose to create a ghola of the guard commander, infiltrate the palace and go into the prison to watch the scene.
Thank you, will try to look on the navigator one, I already unlocked monopoly but i do not have this option once entered in the capsule with Navogator

So i need another run to get Chani event :'(

Already done 4 run till now
 

Edorath

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Jul 14, 2017
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"oh no how could the girl with literally countless generation's worth of memories from her ancestors, many of which being Bene Gesserit who are notably adept manipulators behave like this how could this happen to me :mad:"

you guys are fucking idiots.
 

PhantomStranger

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"oh no how could the girl with literally countless generation's worth of memories from her ancestors, many of which being Bene Gesserit who are notably adept manipulators behave like this how could this happen to me :mad:"

you guys are fucking idiots.
Yes, not everyone is blessed with the same wisdom and insight as yourself, unfortunately.
Please, please enlighten us with your superior understanding of how the things of the world really work...
 
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Edorath

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Yes, not everyone is blessed with the same wisdom and insight as yourself, unfortunately.
Please, please enlighten us with your superior understanding of how the things of the world really work...
turns out that when you have the memories of literally the entirety of human race from birth, including the ones of an order of manipulative individuals, you can behave somewhat differently than most people your age, especially when the personality of your sociopath of a grandfather is starting to echo inside your mind, which causes you to act more forcefully than usual.

SHOCKING, I KNOW!
 

PhantomStranger

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turns out that when you have the memories of literally the entirety of human race from birth, including the ones of an order of manipulative individuals, you can behave somewhat differently than most people your age, especially when the personality of your sociopath of a grandfather is starting to echo inside your mind, which causes you to act more forcefully than usual.

SHOCKING, I KNOW!
You go around insulting people who are saying exactly the same thing.
Consider this:

- Alia could take advantage of millennia of experience in seduction, manipulation and strategy. The Bene Gesserit developed advanced conditioning techniques based on sexual intercourse. In the game itself she boasts about her mastery of the Voice.

- In the books Alia/Vladimir indeed used her sexuality to further her own ends, and managed to conceal her possession even to Lady Jessica.

- The Baron was indeed a sociopath, but was not stupid.
We are talking about the same one that orchestrated the fall of the Atreides and planned to sacrifice his own nephew Rabban to put Feyd-Rautha in the best light possible, and then maybe paving the way for House Harkonnen to seize the imperial throne.

After all this, do you really think that trying to physically dominate Paul by squeezing his balls (when in a body that's half his weight and height, to be generous) and making a tantrum if the request for the ring is not satisfied is the best course of action Alia/Vladimir could conceive?

Or MAYBE dissimulation could have been a better strategy, paired with some form of aggressive seduction? Teasing Paul with the promise of giving him what he wanted from her? THAT would have been an effective way for the Baron's dominating personality to enjoy controlling his worst enemy.

Acting more forceful than usual is one thing, blatantly acting in the least convenient way is another.

She didn't act like someone older than her age, she acted just like a spoiled child.

SHOCKING, I KNOW!
 

Edorath

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You go around insulting people who are saying exactly the same thing.
Consider this:

- Alia could take advantage of millennia of experience in seduction, manipulation and strategy. The Bene Gesserit developed advanced conditioning techniques based on sexual intercourse. In the game itself she boasts about her mastery of the Voice.

- In the books Alia/Vladimir indeed used her sexuality to further her own ends, and managed to conceal her possession even to Lady Jessica.

- The Baron was indeed a sociopath, but was not stupid.
We are talking about the same one that orchestrated the fall of the Atreides and planned to sacrifice his own nephew Rabban to put Feyd-Rautha in the best light possible, and then maybe paving the way for House Harkonnen to seize the imperial throne.

After all this, do you really think that trying to physically dominate Paul by squeezing his balls (when in a body that's half his weight and height, to be generous) and making a tantrum if the request for the ring is not satisfied is the best course of action Alia/Vladimir could conceive?

Or MAYBE dissimulation could have been a better strategy, paired with some form of aggressive seduction? Teasing Paul with the promise of giving him what he wanted from her? THAT would have been an effective way for the Baron's dominating personality to enjoy controlling his worst enemy.

Acting more forceful than usual is one thing, blatantly acting in the least convenient way is another.

She didn't act like someone older than her age, she acted just like a spoiled child.

SHOCKING, I KNOW!
dude, she literally says "my ring" when you give it to her, it's practically blatant that she's being influenced by him
 

reynold.biplane

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Dec 11, 2018
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The way I see it, Alia sure has the ability to be a master manipulator, due to her genetic memory, but she doesn't necessarily use it.

Her main flaw right from the start, was her insecurity. Firstly, due to her inability to connect to her peers or really anyone for that matter, outside of her family or the people in her head. Secondly, due to her inability to form her own personality, since she was really just a vessel for other people's memories. Thirdly, due to her inability to predict the future as well as Paul did, which became a big problem for her, once she took over as regent, but it might have nagged at her even before.

Insecurities tend to lead to irrational behaviour and acting against one's own best interests. Brilliant people are still afflicted by this to some degree. That alone might explain her brattiness and her attempt to challenge Paul's authority.

Of course, things got worse, once the Baron took possession of her mind.
Sure, he was a capable strategist and manipulator, just like Alia's Bene Gesserit ancestors. But he only ever used these abilities for himself. In life and death. He never helped anyone, least of all Alia Atreides. His intention from the start was to get revenge on the Atreides and have some fun along the way. Ever the hedonist.

I feel like both the guileful seductress and the bratty bitch are fitting for Alia.
 
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PhantomStranger

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dude, she literally says "my ring" when you give it to her, it's practically blatant that she's being influenced by him
Of course she is. I am not arguing about her being under the Baron’s influence, just the way this is depicted.


The way I see it, Alia sure has the ability to be a master manipulator, due to her genetic memory, but she doesn't necessarily use it.

Her main flaw right from the start, was her insecurity. Firstly, due to her inability to connect to her peers or really anyone for that matter, outside of her family or the people in her head. Secondly, due to her inability to form her own personality, since she was really just a vessel for other people's memories. Thirdly, due to her inability to predict the future as well as Paul did, which became a big problem for her, once she took over as regent, but it might have nagged at her even before.

Insecurities tend to lead to irrational behaviour and acting against one's own best interests. Brilliant people are still afflicted by this to some degree. That alone might explain her brattiness and her attempt to challenge Paul's authority.

Of course, things got worse, once the Baron took possession of her mind.
Sure, he was a capable strategist and manipulator, just like Alia's Bene Gesserit ancestors. But he only ever used these abilities for himself. In life and death. He never helped anyone, least of all Alia Atreides. His intention from the start was to get revenge on the Atreides and have some fun along the way. Ever the hedonist.

I feel like both the guileful seductress and the bratty bitch are fitting for Alia.
See, this is the kind of objection to my point I can accept. Had you started with something like this instead of “you are a bunch of idiots” I would have considered it a valid alternate point of view and not bothered to use sarcasm to show you how rude your comment was.
 
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Any new save there is 96% With this
Hi, sorry for the late reply.

I think chances are you already find out this, but please go to this guy for the full save.

100% complete unlock save
On windows, use it to replace the file buried inside: %AppData%\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects
I have since stopped bothering with this game due to various reasons, not that it is a bad game or anything.
I just stop, that's it.

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