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Hi, so wanted to ask is it possible to change the variables? Like I am a huge quinn lover so was sad that I did not get the blowjob scene because did not win the mansion mini game in ep8.
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There's a Mansion Minigame guide in Season 2's mod bud... parts are even automated for you with a push of a button and it's 100% safe to use. Me giving you the option to change variables willy-nilly will almost assuredly cause folks to break the game as can be seen by literally hundreds of folks that got the "Banana Loop" issue from another product.
What part of the Mansion did you find difficult if using SanchoMod if I may ask?
Ah, sorry maybe my bad for not explaining. So, played the game till episode 9. Because that was the last part that was out. So stopped playing till ep10 was out and had time. So started playing and have a couple of saves for different girls. One of them is Quinn. In the past, I used scrappy mod because that one is linked in the main forum. But that was making my game crash so they said to use Sanchomod so that is the reason why I did not win.
I am with you that making it so that people can just change it will break their saves a lot. Just asked because did not want to restart from ep8 to 10 to get it. Because yeah with all the free-roam parts it will take a good amount of time. So was looking for a easy fix because maybe that one win is important for future Quinn scene like it was this time.
Nothing on your part love your guides and use it is most of the games that I play and have a sancho guide. So thanks for making it.
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Okay, hold up a second... so you're saying your on Ep10 (Season 3) and there's a Quinn scene you want in this current season that you can't get? Is that the issue, or is it your in Season 2 and there's a Quinn scene you want and can't get?
In Season 3 there's two Quinn lewds, one in Ep9 and one in Ep10. Neither has anything to do with the Season 2 Mansion minigame so I'm confused as to what it is you are attempting to achieve tbh.
Note that I've been working on many other VN's since I last updated Season 3 so bare with me as I get my mind back into BaDIK mode.
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For Quinn's scene in Episode 10, you must have won the mansion minigame (for access to Rusty's car, which is used in that particular scene).
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Correct, my bad:
Python:
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if ep10_quinn_help and ep8_mansion_won:
jump ep10_quinn_lewd_label- Jan 19, 2020
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Eeliejun,
Well bud, I have an option for you but need to explain a bit why this is the only one I'm comfortable with.
I first experimented with simply creating an advanced (toggled) cheat for the Mansion game ins Season 3's SanchoCheats screen but it poses many many issues. When the VN imports the data at the beginning of Season 3 there's many variables and summarized text lists that are populated that are specific to Season 3 going forward. Creating a toggled cheat is in theory possible but much too large a pain in the ass for me to justify.
As an alternative to having to replay Ep8 in Season 2 I can offer the following at the beginning of Season 3 which will populate a dynamic CriticalPath screen after one imports data and either plays the Interlude or skips it (I don't mandate you play it with the mod, and neither does the base VN).
So, after one imports the selected Season 2 data and either plays or skips Interlude you get to this screen:
Then SanchoMod will detect the status of the Mansion scenario and present a custom screen that dynamically let's one choose how they wish to proceed (you can change Won to Lost or Lost to Won). The following are two imports, one where I passed and one where I didn't respectively:
If changed then one would need to obviously replay the remainder of Ep9 & Ep10 so that their playthrough remains "pure". This is the most efficient way I can insure your playthrough remains viable now and in the future tbh. Making a toggled cheat for Mansion is just way to much time and effort for me to invest for a feature that hardly anyone would likely use (including myself).
If this layup is acceptable to you let me know and I'll push out a maintenance update with these changes reflected in the mod.
Regards.
Well bud, I have an option for you but need to explain a bit why this is the only one I'm comfortable with.
I first experimented with simply creating an advanced (toggled) cheat for the Mansion game ins Season 3's SanchoCheats screen but it poses many many issues. When the VN imports the data at the beginning of Season 3 there's many variables and summarized text lists that are populated that are specific to Season 3 going forward. Creating a toggled cheat is in theory possible but much too large a pain in the ass for me to justify.
As an alternative to having to replay Ep8 in Season 2 I can offer the following at the beginning of Season 3 which will populate a dynamic CriticalPath screen after one imports data and either plays the Interlude or skips it (I don't mandate you play it with the mod, and neither does the base VN).
So, after one imports the selected Season 2 data and either plays or skips Interlude you get to this screen:
Then SanchoMod will detect the status of the Mansion scenario and present a custom screen that dynamically let's one choose how they wish to proceed (you can change Won to Lost or Lost to Won). The following are two imports, one where I passed and one where I didn't respectively:
If changed then one would need to obviously replay the remainder of Ep9 & Ep10 so that their playthrough remains "pure". This is the most efficient way I can insure your playthrough remains viable now and in the future tbh. Making a toggled cheat for Mansion is just way to much time and effort for me to invest for a feature that hardly anyone would likely use (including myself).
If this layup is acceptable to you let me know and I'll push out a maintenance update with these changes reflected in the mod.
Regards.
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SanchoMod BaDIK S3 Maintenance Update (Non-Critical)
Links in OP are updated accordingly.
Changlelog:
If you are in a bind then you can use the option in SanchoCheats (it will only be available to select if you are currently in Ep9 or Ep10 for safety reasons) but Rusty's bio info won't reflect this Mansion change. Everything else will be stable. If changing to obtain Ep9's Quinn scene then make the change before the below example:
Simply download and reinstall over existing mod installation, overwriting as requested if necessary.
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Links in OP are updated accordingly.
Changlelog:
- Added a CriticalPath screen at the beginning of Ep9 for the ability to change Ep8's (Season 2) Mansion minigame outcome.
- Added a SanchoCheat for the Mansion minigame outcome.
If you are in a bind then you can use the option in SanchoCheats (it will only be available to select if you are currently in Ep9 or Ep10 for safety reasons) but Rusty's bio info won't reflect this Mansion change. Everything else will be stable. If changing to obtain Ep9's Quinn scene then make the change before the below example:
Simply download and reinstall over existing mod installation, overwriting as requested if necessary.
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Thanks! Happy you did it even if it was not needed and really minor but really thank yo for doing it
You went above and beyond there. Definitely raised the bar for the VN mod game.
Only wish I have left for this mod is that when the save description is turned off, it'll revert to the default save name scheme.
Very helpful for Season 3. It automatically names saves for you (using Season 1/2 final save name) when vanilla without the mod.
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TBH, I swear I remember this on my "todo" list amongst the many items. Thank you for reminding me. The next time I have the project open I'll eyeball the VN's code and see what I can do.
To be optimistic, there's another VN I mod on (I can't remember which one at the moment, it's 0400hrs and I'm waiting on my first cup of coffee) that I do indeed revert back to the VN's naming scheme if SanchoMod's direct naming is turned Off.... so this is certainly possible.
I need to go back into my archived notes, remember which VN I already wrote that base code for, and see if I can work it into BaDIK... if not it will surely get me in the mindset to create a whole new code function to handle it either way.
Regards.
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Maxiom,
I recall now why I stopped making this a thing I beleive. The below has the normal import names in blue text (just like normal) that one used to create the exports. In yellow text below that I've extracted those exports "save names" that were available. Notice some are missing. This caused me pause as I could not explain why this was occurring in Season 2's export process. So, I was at a dilemma as to how I should implement it: I could use the transfer name or the Ep8 save name (if it exists in the export file) as the SaveName default until the Player changed it to something different... but it's inconsistent in behavior so I put it on the back burner.
It almost seems as though it be more practical to use the transfer name, ain't it? Thoughts?
Edit: before replying read the post below for some additional thoughts.
I recall now why I stopped making this a thing I beleive. The below has the normal import names in blue text (just like normal) that one used to create the exports. In yellow text below that I've extracted those exports "save names" that were available. Notice some are missing. This caused me pause as I could not explain why this was occurring in Season 2's export process. So, I was at a dilemma as to how I should implement it: I could use the transfer name or the Ep8 save name (if it exists in the export file) as the SaveName default until the Player changed it to something different... but it's inconsistent in behavior so I put it on the back burner.
Edit: before replying read the post below for some additional thoughts.
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Maxiom,
Now, thinking about it, I can get real cute and make the "SaveDescription" toggle in SanchoOptions a 4-way toggle:
If this was implemented the next question would be if I should make the second and third bullets above (S2's save name or import name) editable during the save process in S3 (make it the default in the save naming input's entry box) or just make it uneditable where it would be that name forever going forward sequentially. If I made it editable then I could remove the second bullet and just make the mod's default for a new save slot be the default of the imported data's old save name... or be the default of the existing slot if overwriting one (two birds, one stone). This might be the ticket. Again, thoughts?
To summarize the code that would likely solve both issues:
If "SaveDescription" in SanchoOptions was On then it would default to the imported data's old save name (if it exists) and be editable, default to the existing save slot's name if overwriting an existing save, or default to be blank if neither apply. When the option to name saves is Off then it would be blank regardless (like it currently works).
Would that fill the wish you had while still be extremely flexible in how the default input box's name is presented?
Side note:
You other folks are welcome to chime in... I treat this VN different than the others as I'm way more flexible with requests for additions/changes to the mod as can be read in the OP. This VN's mod is my "sandbox" to try new ideas that may or may not be implemented in all future SanchoMod's across all the VN's it's on. In other words this VN has always been my main guinea pig for testing and messing around with new coding challenges and various thought processes.
Now, thinking about it, I can get real cute and make the "SaveDescription" toggle in SanchoOptions a 4-way toggle:
- Mod - Player input per instance (which currently defaults to the name of a save if overwriting an existing one but still editable)
- VN Default - Season 2's save name (if it exists)
- Import file name - exactly that
- None - same as current mod's toggle "Off"
If this was implemented the next question would be if I should make the second and third bullets above (S2's save name or import name) editable during the save process in S3 (make it the default in the save naming input's entry box) or just make it uneditable where it would be that name forever going forward sequentially. If I made it editable then I could remove the second bullet and just make the mod's default for a new save slot be the default of the imported data's old save name... or be the default of the existing slot if overwriting one (two birds, one stone). This might be the ticket. Again, thoughts?
To summarize the code that would likely solve both issues:
If "SaveDescription" in SanchoOptions was On then it would default to the imported data's old save name (if it exists) and be editable, default to the existing save slot's name if overwriting an existing save, or default to be blank if neither apply. When the option to name saves is Off then it would be blank regardless (like it currently works).
Would that fill the wish you had while still be extremely flexible in how the default input box's name is presented?
Side note:
You other folks are welcome to chime in... I treat this VN different than the others as I'm way more flexible with requests for additions/changes to the mod as can be read in the OP. This VN's mod is my "sandbox" to try new ideas that may or may not be implemented in all future SanchoMod's across all the VN's it's on. In other words this VN has always been my main guinea pig for testing and messing around with new coding challenges and various thought processes.
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I'd prefer it editable, game is complex and I have a save or two where I'm messing around with things (not like when I'm on a specific LI path) so it'd be good to be able to change it if needed
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So you could easily work with the "To summarize the code that would likely solve both issues" idea from here or have some other thought that's different from that and/or what is currently in the mod?
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Just having the option to not reinput the save description with each separate save would be fine.
I've seen games have it where you input the save description once, then it automatically saves using that name from that point forward, unless you manually type in a new save description.
Usually games with this feature don't have a save description box popping up. Since there's no pop-up, no pressing "ENTER" an extra time to close the description box. Which is nice when you save a lot.
Instead, the description box is usually integrated naturally in the save screen interface. Just have to click on it to input the save description, then it auto-populates that description with every save. Also, it's editable. No pop-up so no extra button presses and reinputting the description every time.
EXAMPLE: The [Save name] box on the right.
That's how it works in the vanilla BADIK unmodded game, except you cannot edit the save description name later, since there's no save description box.
Ideally, it's best if the description is editable. Especially when you get to the branches in the "Others" path.
(It's possible to have a [save name] box overlay on the save screen interface, that can be toggled on/off?)
However, if un-editable like the vanilla game, it's not a big issue. Editability is more of a luxury.
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Thanks Sancho. You are a hero.
Your fix solved the issue of game quitting (stupid PinkCake and his anticheat). I had some old saves and tried playing the game, but it kept crashing. I think I used some other mod in old S1 v0.3 , but some variables must have persisted in the save files till v0.8.3
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You're sincerely welcome bud. I don't judge folks that used anything else in the past (or use anything else now) so I'll always do what I can to get anyone out of a jam (within reason)... otherwise welcome to SanchoVille. Please enjoy your stay.