Ir0n Ma1den

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The story in episode 10 hits hard, as someone whos grandmother has demntia, I can say that The cake writing is pretty legit, and I can feel all the femily members who have to endure the situation.

I can espcially relate to Patrick, who from the outside does behave shitty, but Imagine the burden this man holds on his shoulders and the pain of seeing his loved one turning into a leaving zombie, and knowing you can't do anything to save him its eating you from the inside. Now imagine you have to work to succed and to grow your childrean,while holding off those emotion and to take care of your sickly wife.

Of course nothing excuses vioence and abusing your childrean in any shape or form, but I do understand where this man coming from, I hope MC, friends come to the conclution that their whole femily needs help and emotional support. Patrick, Derek and Maya need help, people like them need emotional support and maybe financial??(but I doubt it). Here Rusty, Sage and Jill need to intervene. Me as MC if given the choises will be there for both Derek (Bro in all my routes) and Maya (In routes that she is romanced as a friend, and escpsially in the routes MC romanced her). MC needs to invite both of them to celebrate with him an Neil, those two need some peace of mind.

My gripe is that in the choise where MC can either hit in dik, just comment at nutural and rescue Maya in chinck. The nutural and chink should have been reversed. In Nutural you need to save maya, while in Chink you just need to give a comment. Hitting him is understanble, since MC is ignorent to the situation. I wouldn't him Patrick since I know how he feels, but your avrage player and MC are clueless so its a good choise.

DPC really mangaed to capture this sad reality in a 9/10 way, more the hollywood and other media do.
 
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DanMotta

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We know for one that Burke is not connected - if we showed the video to DIK's someone sends it to him
I don't think it's HOT's either, Quinn and Burke had a deal, but that is over since Burke is leaving B&R and divorcing Jade

So it's either a DIK or someone else from college who really hates them for some reason.

Rusty - No way, the guy loves DIK's and he is OG
Tommy - Same, yes he is loose cannon, but he loves the brotherhood
Derek & MC - We know our boys are not involved
Jamie & Leon - I don't see why or how ? If they were involved some hints would be there for us

That leaves Jacob or Nick.

Whatever happens DIK's mansion it's not going to be a great place to live.
does burke divorce Jade even if he has no video? I never engaged in a relationship with Jade. And he is leaving B&R. I skipped many things Ididn't wanna see because I was tired of minigames :D.
 

rosethorn87

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oh damn been waiting for this update, all i need to update now is a struggle with sin and karlsonss gambit to update and merry fucking christmas, downloaidng it now
 

DanMotta

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I'll admit personality is a poor choice of word as main's do have that. I stick with the view that mains are toohomogenous/vanilla and disagree with notion that they are specifally designed to enable a wide group of people to find choice they like. I don't want nor expect a white picket fence happy ending with Quinn but neither do i see why it has to end in misery. Its a visual novel so hopefully our MC choices can lead to different outcomes for her and for our MC. I certainly find what's going on with Riona/Lily more interesting than mains.
I find anything that happens on others path more interesting than the main Lis. And I find that what happens with the others are more connected to the diks than anything related with the main Lis.

Honestly, whatever happens, to Sage, Josy Maya, Jill, Bella, doesn't affect the diks. But whatever happens with the others affects them. Diks are all about the girls from pink Rose and And the others from Hots. So this is the reason why others plays a more important role. At the end of the day, The main ones, can only affect mc personally. while anything happening with the others, mess with mc and all diks.
 

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The story in episode 10 hits hard, as someone whos grandmother has demntia, I can say that The cake writing is pretty legit, and I can feel all the femily members who have to endure the situation.

I can espcially relate to Patrick, who from the outside does behave shitty, but Imagine the burden this man holds on his shoulders and the pain of seeing his loved one turning into a leaving zombie, and knowing you can't do anything to save him its eating you from the inside. Now imagine you have to work to succed and to grow your childrean,while holding off those emotion and to take care of your sickly wife.

My gripe is that in the choise where MC can either hit in dik, just comment at nutural and rescue Maya in chinck. The nutural and chink should have been reversed. In Nutural you need to save maya, while in Chink you just need to give a comment. Hitting him is understanble, since MC is ignorent to the situation. I wouldn't him Patrick since I know how he feels, but your avrage player and MC are clueless so its a good choise.

DPC really mangaed to capture this sad reality in a 9/10 way, more the hollywood and other media do.
The development of Patrick goes even deeper, he was at the start of the flashback not really a Christian where Helen was, he become a devout Christian to become closer to his wife or it's one of his mental support to continue in his situation. Also, surely he didn't had sex for a long time and he didn't cheat on Helen because he is a devout Christian, so it's why he has porn mags in his office.
 

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does burke divorce Jade even if he has no video? I never engaged in a relationship with Jade. And he is leaving B&R. I skipped many things Ididn't wanna see because I was tired of minigames :D.
Yes. Divorce either way. The non-video version, Jade gets 50/50 instead of 10/90.
 

aykarin

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I see that a lot of people here still dismiss Patrick (Maya's father) as absolute scum, but after this episode my view of him became much more sympathetic. We learned he took care of his whole family (chronically ill wife and two children) almost by himself for many years, which must have been extremely hard and tiring. This experience would certainly break many people. Even though it doesn't change the fact that what Patrick does to Maya (trying to control her adult life, using physical force against her) is wrong and shouldn't be allowed, saying simply that he is 'a scum' is just plain stupid. This entire situation is very hard to judge objectively.

Certainly Maya, even though she is a victim, doesn't make things better with her behavior. She seems to be completely oblivious to the hardships of her family and just cares about being validated and supported in every way. She is ungrateful for the things her father suffered for many years for the family's well-being. She never tried to work to support herself financially. She takes money from her father (who supports the entire household by himself) to pursue a dream career by studying social work in college, but at the same time opposes his efforts to influence her way of life. Adulthood doesn't work that way. Either you become independent economically and then have the ability to shape your own future - or you accept financial dependence on your family, but then you should accept that the family supporting you will have some leverage over you and can make demands. Stephen Burke rightfully pointed that out to Maya in Episode 9 when he suggested maybe she should drop out from college for now, seek a job, work to become independent and then return for education.

Maya's father certainly abuses his power over her, but it doesn't change the fact that Maya acts like a irresponsible, ungrateful moron. Her only actual skill is playing the victim.
 

SteelyDan14

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new mini-games are pure hell, hate it
I know... That math one... I can get the right answers but spend forever on them. But generally, the mini games blow. At least with the english test you can use the keyboard now.
 

Ir0n Ma1den

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The development of Patrick goes even deeper, he was at the start of the flashback not really a Christian where Helen was, he become a devout Christian to become closer to his wife or it's one of his mental support to continue in his situation. Also, surely he didn't had sex for a long time and he didn't cheat on Helen because he is a devout Christian, so it's why he has porn mags in his office.
I don't know you, but the pain that patrick feels its immersurable, I know since I feel it, my grandma since demantia is a diffrent person, when I look at her I don't see the same person.

I didn't notice this detail, but I imagine how sexually frustrated he is which adds to his pain.

As I've said this whole femily needs HELP, all three are sufforing from Post trauma. MC needs to encourge Derek to open up to the Diks about the situation, while Maya needs to open up to the Normal part of the Hots.

Rusty, Sage and Jill need to try help them finnacially, while Bella and more of the adult cast offer psyhological help.

DPC did really good job humanising many of the cast in this episode, Calm before the snow it isn't. Its a touching episode.
 
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Ir0n Ma1den

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I know... That math one... I can get the right answers but spend forever on them. But generally, the mini games blow. At least with the english test you can use the keyboard now.
DPC generally did a good job with them, really immersing you in the college atmoshere.
 

Sir Sam

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This is a game that you can't really rate badly and you need to admit its quality, but it's also one that I just can't bring myself to play anymore, used to be way more engaging when the mini games weren't as frequent and when the routes were more forgiving. I understand that this is objectively one of the best games out there and is a blockbuster title AVN wise. But at least for me, is not as fun and engaging anymore and lost the charm it had in s1&2. Wondering if anyone else feeling the same since this was geniuenly one of my favorites back in 2022 but ever since s3 I feel over it.
 

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