Geralt From Rivia

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Holy F'ing God. It is like a North Korea, Dear Leader cheerleading squad. I feel thankful that at least here there are some that can hammer though numbers and read stats to predict progress.
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znar25

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Considering he needed to get the underlying tech tested (for imports and all), and he was still going to have Zoey backstory, the only thing a lack of the Interlude would have resulted in would have been no update for anything whatsoever at all this entire time, because that same "boring" story content would have been worked into the rest of the stuff anyway.

Don't be angry about the interlude, this lengthy delay was always going to happen. Be angry that DPC obviously lied about pushing for smaller, faster episodes than what he'd done prior to the bloat of episode 8.
I respect your position. I do not agree that an Interlude helped in any way at all. That the whole thing was critical to produce an import device for future episodes would need an investigation into DPCs resources and thinking which we don't have other than his explanation.
The fact is, resources/time were expended to produce the Interlude. Not everyone agrees it was important. Some agree that it is important. Now, (my opinion), we are staring at 11, 12, (or more) months since the last useful update in November 2021.
Note: all this goes with the thoughts that I am VERY thankful for the hard work DPC has put into this story.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Hmmm, I see . . . where are you coming from. While I agree with you on this point completely

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What I see in his reports is enthusiasm and love for his creation, even to the point of fanaticism. So I don't think there is anything to worry about. The game will be released, albeit later than we expected. And people who make drama because of the delay for one or two months are just amateurs, they don’t know how it is to wait for STALKER 2 and Half-Life 3:LOL:

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About : "Everyone should have the right to an opinion." Kinda agree in my previously comment but :

You see, A driver can't bitch about car that is car owner's right. : I hope you get What I am trying to say.
I understand your philosophy. The driver takes a fellow traveler and gives him a free ride. The passenger begins to criticize this good man: his car is bad, the suspension is too stiff, and in general he drives very slowly and the trip will be "so long". It makes sense.
I think I saw you in another thread where there was a similar drama (it happens there all the time), I argued with whiners and saw a similar opinion. Until I realized that arguing with them is useless. This was a ORS thread by Eva Kiss.
 

znar25

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I disagree, as much as I dislike the interlude because it distracts from the main plots (as I've said before I don't mind the timescales of release as I believe DPC puts out more quality and quantity in one episode than other devs put out over 5 releases in a 2 year period), there's not much in the interlude that wouldn't need to be included as flashbacks to flesh out Zoey as DPC wanted, the first scenes with Fuckface were basically included with the story told to Bella but beyond that every point of the interlude needs to be included:
  • Zoey realising on the train that Fuckface was more than just a fuckbuddy
  • Zoey gradually losing enthusiasm for surfing because she wasn't good at it
  • Zoey's artistic ability getting her the job at the tattoo parlour
  • Zoey deciding to get tattoos
  • Zoey getting close to Bret (as friends)
  • Emma getting jealous about it and goading Zoey into risque poses on the beach
  • Emma posting the pics on Rooster
  • Zoey confronting Emma and either getting revenge or setting Emma and Bret back up together.

All those plot points would need to be covered in flashbacks to take Zoey to where she is now. What else was in the interlude that wouldn't need to be covered?
Or, just never mention her again in the story. A small price to pay for progress in all the other branches. She went away. Big deal. A possible future from that decision path:

BaDIK fan 1: "Hey whatever happened to MCs girl that is a friend before he went to college?"

BaDIK fan 2: "Who the Fk cares? I think you are right, Jade was hot in the last episode!"
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Or, just never mention her again in the story. A small price to pay for progress in all the other branches. She went away. Big deal. A possible future from that decision path:

BaDIK fan 1: "Hey whatever happened to MCs girl that is a friend before he went to college?"

BaDIK fan 2: "Who the Fk cares? I think you are right, Jade was hot in the last episode!"
There's a reason he dedicated a whole little, short chapter to Zoe instead of a flashback. There is only one reason - this character will have a great influence on the further plot, of course completely optional, everything will depend on the player's decisions. The DPC wanted to explore her backstory more deeply and allow the player to customize her personality. We'll soon find out why.
I think for those who didn't like the Interlude it's easier to deal with it. Why chew on this topic for 7 months, we don't control this ride.
 

Melissa fan

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I don't know, What kind of game you are PLAYING but tell me Where is the story is weak and terrible and Character are the way you said :
I said that about the new Saints Row game. Being a Dik only has the story and characters so if I felt like that about BaDIK I would have stopped playing after the first episode. I enjoy the BaDIK story and I am quite attached to a lot of the characters especially Riona, Lily, Josy, Jill and Sage.
 

znar25

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There's a reason he dedicated a whole little, short chapter to Zoe instead of a flashback. There is only one reason - this character will have a great influence on the further plot, of course completely optional, everything will depend on the player's decisions. The DPC wanted to explore her backstory more deeply and allow the player to customize her personality. We'll soon find out why.
I think for those who didn't like the Interlude it's easier to deal with it. Why chew on this topic for 7 months, we don't control this ride.
Speaking only for myself, the biggest influence Zoey will have on the game will be the time I invest using the Ctrl key to skip through such a time waster. We do not control the ride. We do control feedback. How that pans out is anyone's guess. THIS IS a truly great VN. So it is understandable that fans would be highly passionate about whole other segments of the story being held up much how morning rush hour is held up by a protestor gluing their hand to the pavement.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Speaking only for myself, the biggest influence Zoey will have on the game will be the time I invest using the Ctrl key to skip through such a time waster. We do not control the ride. We do control feedback. How that pans out is anyone's guess. THIS IS a truly great VN. So it is understandable that fans would be highly passionate about whole other segments of the story being held up much how morning rush hour is held up by a protestor gluing their hand to the pavement.
The sad truth is that we have no control here. We can just discuss and share opinions, but we will not change anything. The only ones who control the feedback are his patrons, who pay for Patreon and communicate in Discord.
It's been 7 months since there has been any new content. What is there to talk about that hasn't been discussed a million times already? also the interlude is the newest BaDIK content. that's part of why I haven't bothered reading or replying to this thread basically all year.
Yes, this happens here every time when there are no new exact numbers and few previews. A discussion begins on topics that have already been discussed a thousand times.
 

Melissa fan

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Yes, this happens here every time when there are no new exact numbers and few previews. A discussion begins on topics that have already been discussed a thousand times.
Even when there are new numbers and preview pics after a day at most they have already been fully discussed and it is back to normal.
 

Oliver Wendell Homely

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idk if im in the minority, but i dislike "overly positive" and sycophantic environments when it comes to any kind of discussion. its not natural and always feels super phony to me.

like say what you will about all the insanity, fetishism, trolling, white knighting, praise, hatred, teasing, joking, complaining, whining, etc that are all equally rampant here: but that it what happens in real life when you stick 1000 different people from all over the world and from different walks of life into one room and just let them talk back and forth. this is reality with all its pros and all its cons. and id much rather be a part of reality than living in a bubble where you can only have one general opinion, cause without REAL discourse then how can you ever expect to learn new things and appreciate different points of view?

i get people not wanting to deal with negativity regarding things that make them happy, especially with the world we currently live in. but i think that is overall doing themselves a disservice and a worse decision in the long term. echo-chambers of any kind arent good for people's growth/development

just my two cents
I would agree if we were talking about politics or something important, where criticisms and other forms of "negativity" can be helpful. But we're talking about a porn game and most of the complaints now are from people who are just bashing on it out of (in my opinion) childish impatience and/or some kind of resentment of DPC because he's got an enormously successful and lucrative business going. That's not "REAL discourse" and it certainly isn't helpful.

Anyway, I'm going to stop arguing because I'd like to continue coming to this site and participating in these forums and I really don't want to turn fellow fans of the game--even those with whom I disagree--into antagonists.
 

ffive

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Everything in the interlude could have just been a quick 2 minute flashback or under 10 sentences in a conversation and it wouldn't really change much.
It wouldn't have changed much for people who already, preemptively decided they're not interested in this character and all they want is more of their waifu of choice. But that's not everyone.

Just like every character I don't need a whole episode dedicated to a part of their life I just need some bits of their background while growing a relationship with them in the game.
That's the thing, Zoey isn't supposed to be just like every other character you know nothing about and grow a relationship with in the game, starting from that nothing. The MC already has a very long-term relationship with her.

Granted, selling the "old friend" LI as actual old friend to the player is something these games have always struggled with. It's hard, especially when your players more likely than not never had any female friend and so can't easily empathize :v
 
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