VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[SomboSteel]

Why do you want to watch other male characters bangs kinda gay lmfao?

i just wanted to point out something to you: if that is your only qualifications for something being gay, then you should realize that since you arent actually the MC that you are constantly just watching some other male character "bangs" the whole time you play this game.

i hope you can find a way to be at peace with that harrowing truth

 

[Lovetities]

i just wanted to point out something to you: if that is your only qualifications for something being gay, then you should realize that since you arent actually the MC that you are constantly just watching some other male character "bangs" the whole time you play this game.

i hope you can find a way to be at peace with that harrowing truth

Yeah that why I prefer watching Main character bang rather than including other male characters banging the li or other girls. Also you are the MC if you are making choices for him and changing the story in the process. This is not a kinetic novels. I have chosen choices that I could actually do in real life other than abit personality yeah MC is similar to me. Yeah if you are okay with watching other characters bang and take more time rendering then good for you. Next thing we know some people coming here and asking for Troy x Chad secs

 

[NebulousShooter]

Next thing we know some people coming here and asking for Troy x Chad secs

And MC furiously masturbating in the corner

 

[apologetik]

why be content with a divine beauty,when you can add to the other.
the bed is big enough,the one beauty is for a while,
but the other divine beauty is for eternity.

with her beautiful wavy brown hair,her beautiful glittering eyes,
that mischievous smile,that beautiful hand full off breasts,
and that beautifully smooth tummy that i explore until i come to your forbidden fruit,
after which i penetrate you and you scream,and you get highest orgasm you will ever experience.

josy is the biggest star in the sky.
josy is love forever.

`%s/josy/bella/g`

 

[shane001]

as usual, it all comes down to what people on this forum consider NTR, and what actual NTR is in these kinds of games and in real life adult scenarios.

i am not into actual NTR, but i would appreciate realistic adult relationships portrayed in this game. Since none of the girls are canonically with the MC, any of them having sex with other people is not NTR. Bella can fuck her husband, Sage can fuck Chad, the restaurant girls can fuck paying customers, etc, etc. People who are opposed to that definitely have some problems, cause guess what?

They probably are, in the background but since it's a single Main Character/protagonist story so all those side sex scenes wouldn't contribute anything to the main character, his relationship with them or his POV which the whole thing is around and almost all of the fans want to see MC at the center of attention with girls. Also it would be a waste of renders and animations which most of the patreons didn't asked for. It's not a surprising choice since it's a well popular Harem type format in the single protagonist stories and has been from the very start which is also it's selling point.

 

[SomboSteel]

They probably are, in the background but since it's a single Main Character/protagonist story so all those side sex scenes wouldn't contribute anything to the main character, his relationship with them or his POV which the whole thing is around and almost all of the fans want to see MC at the center of attention with girls. It's not a surprising choice since it's a well popular Harem type format in the single protagonist stories and has been from the very start which is also it's selling point.

this isnt an actual harem game though

 

[JETracktor]

There is no a real antagonist in this game ... Chad who was supposed to be the alpha-villain quickly turns out to be a pussy ... MC is a love love average-boy too
A storyline without a believable "AssHole" is just a boring and quiet vanilla story.

I donìt know if the following idea was already in the thread... more than 10000 pags are really hard to explore

if I were in the developer I would create a story where Chad goes crazy taking a submachine gun and making a killing in college as unfortunately often happens in American colleges ... this would lead to a twist and eliminate some of the too many useless characters ... by this way the MC could become a REAL-HERO by solving the issue and saving the girl he loves.

In this story the main villain (who is yet to be revealed) is definitely Stephen Cuck.

 

[Lovetities]

this isnt an actual harem game though

This is not harem game but people still repeat other branches and events, also as he said side characters banging doesn't add anything to the story. We know Quinn run a prosituion business, sage, Maya, Josy, Bella have been physical before. Pretty sure sage will start dating someone else again on other non-sage routes.

 

[PeterSBigD]

There is no a real antagonist in this game ... Chad who was supposed to be the alpha-villain quickly turns out to be a pussy ... MC is a love love average-boy too
A storyline without a believable "AssHole" is just a boring and quiet vanilla story.

I donìt know if the following idea was already in the thread... more than 10000 pags are really hard to explore

if I were in the developer I would create a story where Chad goes crazy taking a submachine gun and making a killing in college as unfortunately often happens in American colleges ... this would lead to a twist and eliminate some of the too many useless characters ... by this way the MC could become a REAL-HERO by solving the issue and saving the girl he loves.

Columbine, Chad Edition

 

[shane001]

this isnt an actual harem game though

True, that's why I wrote "Harem type format" where we see the whole story of a single protagonist and his relationships with girls through his eyes.

 

[SomboSteel]

True, that's why I wrote "Harem type format" where we see the whole story of a single protagonist and his relationships with girls through his eyes.

the Interlude disproves that perspective. as well as some flashbacks that have nothing to do with MC in the slightest. and for those reasons alone if there were intimate scenes in the past (between say Bella and her husband) that would provide a meaningful contrast to her personality to when MC meets her, they actually can and should be shown. just like it should have been shown that Zoey was playing the field in San Diego and that she a lot of mediocre to bad experiences that helped her realize how she felt about the MC.

just because DPC is too afraid to commit to showing how actual relationships work, doesnt mean it was actually the right decision for the narrative he is trying to sell us. you dont have to agree with that, and you can gain more enjoyment from the psuedo-harem fantasy that this game tries to present. more power to you if thats the case. but allowing DPC to collectively put our heads in the sand to avoid talking about "the scary stuff" that keeps the anti-NTR brigade up at night is doing the story and all of us readers a disservice. especially if its all just for DPC selling out to get even more money

 

[Lovetities]

the Interlude disproves that perspective. as well as some flashbacks that have nothing to do with MC in the slightest. and for those reasons alone if there were intimate scenes in the past (between say Bella and her husband) that would provide a meaningful contrast to her personality to when MC meets her, they actually can and should be shown. just like it should have been shown that Zoey was playing the field in San Diego and that she a lot of mediocre to bad experiences that helped her realize how she felt about the MC.

just because DPC is too afraid to commit to showing how actual relationships work, doesnt mean it was actually the right decision for the narrative he is trying to sell us. you dont have to agree with that, and you can gain more enjoyment from the psuedo-harem fantasy that this game tries to present. more power to you if thats the case. but allowing DPC to collectively put our heads in the sand to avoid talking about "the scary stuff" that keeps the anti-NTR brigade up at night is doing the story and all of us readers a disservice. especially if its all just for DPC selling out to get even more money

Yeah and see how much hate did interlude got? Interlude is literally the most boring content right now because it changes the narrative. People be complaining about useless renders lmfao and yet you here asking for more. You should directly say you are Ntr fan instead of tiptoeing around it, there is nothing wrong with it just another kink. Also we got Maya and Josy flashback scene at the lake, we didn't saw any Lesbian scenes, I don't see you talking about that? Only why Bella didn't kissed /fucked her husband? Or why zoey is not banging other people lmfao. Yeah it not considered Ntr if two person are not in relationship and have sex with other people but I am pretty sure you are not watching your ex girlfriend/boyfriend banging other people right now Realistic Dpc need to show us story contents not many useless bs shown in interlude, also all of the other flashbacks showed us abit of the past that directly tied with main storyline.

 

[Deleted member 4541730]

the Interlude disproves that perspective. as well as some flashbacks that have nothing to do with MC in the slightest. and for those reasons alone if there were intimate scenes in the past (between say Bella and her husband) that would provide a meaningful contrast to her personality to when MC meets her, they actually can and should be shown. just like it should have been shown that Zoey was playing the field in San Diego and that she a lot of mediocre to bad experiences that helped her realize how she felt about the MC.

just because DPC is too afraid to commit to showing how actual relationships work, doesnt mean it was actually the right decision for the narrative he is trying to sell us. you dont have to agree with that, and you can gain more enjoyment from the psuedo-harem fantasy that this game tries to present. more power to you if thats the case. but allowing DPC to collectively put our heads in the sand to avoid talking about "the scary stuff" that keeps the anti-NTR brigade up at night is doing the story and all of us readers a disservice. especially if its all just for DPC selling out to get even more money

You cannot dissuade people of the opinion that Being a DIK has a good story. It's truly awful and is made to facilitate sex shenanigans with coeds, teachers, and local strippers. Compared to some other "Adult visual novels" it does have a good story. Compared to almost anything else, it's tawdrily nonsense. The anti-NTR people lost their shit when Josy was revealed to be "double timing" the MC with Maya. Which to be clear was funny. The MC, Maya, and Josy all looked like socially stunted morons. This is the drama lol.

 

[ffive]

Compared to almost anything else, it's tawdrily nonsense.

Am not sure what sort of TV you're watching or books you're reading, but the productions aimed at the same YA crowd are very much the same sort of contrived nonsense we can find here. 90% of everything is crap after all.

 

[shane001]

the Interlude disproves that perspective. as well as some flashbacks that have nothing to do with MC in the slightest. and for those reasons alone if there were intimate scenes in the past (between say Bella and her husband) that would provide a meaningful contrast to her personality to when MC meets her, they actually can and should be shown. just like it should have been shown that Zoey was playing the field in San Diego and that she a lot of mediocre to bad experiences that helped her realize how she felt about the MC.

just because DPC is too afraid to commit to showing how actual relationships work, doesnt mean it was actually the right decision for the narrative he is trying to sell us. you dont have to agree with that, and you can gain more enjoyment from the psuedo-harem fantasy that this game tries to present. more power to you if thats the case. but allowing DPC to collectively put our heads in the sand to avoid talking about "the scary stuff" that keeps the anti-NTR brigade up at night is doing the story and all of us readers a disservice. especially if its all just for DPC selling out to get even more money

And that's why it was an interlude and probably the least popular update so far.
I doubt intimate scenes of the past would provide anything to the readers except for the minority of people who want those scenes, tho their fights or argumentative talks can provide a little insight to some extent or prabably there is more to the story coming in the future and considering this is a VN, implication of some hints are probably enough for the secondary characters .
I think you're in the wrong place if you want to see "how actual relationships work", It's creator's fantasy story written by them, which according to them is pleasing for them to write and majority to read with business perspective in mind, not winning Oscars for it. And like Hank21 said You cannot dissuade people of the opinion that Being a DIK has a decent/good story. It's just comparably better or one of best out there in the world of 3D VNs, else most of the plot here wouldn't make sense in a normal novel or a normal movie.
I wouldn't accuse Creator of "selling out" without having any proof of what original story, if any, the creator intended to produce other than this. It comes out as whiny since you didn't got what you wanted or had in mind. You have to understand, at the end, the creator is doing exactly what they started out as. You can't expect them to serve only you or a minority of people and waste the resources on side scenes which have very little to no effect on the protagonist as character or his relationship or his story. This is just my 2 cent on this.

 

[felicemastronzo]

the Interlude disproves that perspective. as well as some flashbacks that have nothing to do with MC in the slightest. and for those reasons alone if there were intimate scenes in the past (between say Bella and her husband) that would provide a meaningful contrast to her personality to when MC meets her, they actually can and should be shown. just like it should have been shown that Zoey was playing the field in San Diego and that she a lot of mediocre to bad experiences that helped her realize how she felt about the MC.

just because DPC is too afraid to commit to showing how actual relationships work, doesnt mean it was actually the right decision for the narrative he is trying to sell us. you dont have to agree with that, and you can gain more enjoyment from the psuedo-harem fantasy that this game tries to present. more power to you if thats the case. but allowing DPC to collectively put our heads in the sand to avoid talking about "the scary stuff" that keeps the anti-NTR brigade up at night is doing the story and all of us readers a disservice. especially if its all just for DPC selling out to get even more money

yes however there is risk and risk

Zoey already didn't start out with the crowd's favor, if we had seen her enjoying herself freely in San Diego her position would not have improved. to make such a character work takes a particular narrative sensibility let's say uncommon.

probably, if we ever see them, in the epilogues something like that will be there, i don't think we'll see the LIs piling up cats as their hair grays.

the problem of the past remains, we have 2 out of 5 LIs who are virgins (heterosexually) which is a quota quite out of any statistical sample.
the only one of the other 3 for whom the problem has been resolved quite elegantly is Josy, Maya tells us that she knows what to do with men, that's enough, we don't have to see anything.

but with Bella and especially Sage it is a disaster. with Sage there is really no harmony between what we are told and what we are shown. in the flashback, which takes place more than two years before, we already see a very cold Chad towards her, and this coldness does not allow for pauses, what need was there to reiterate this behavior? already in the present apart from the jealousy there is no moment of tenderness, of complicity between Chad and Sage, they look like husband and wife after 30 years of marriage. but this same Sage is the one who is looking for a fuckbuddy and who gives grades after sex. it is really a tragicomic situation

Bella is simply a confirmation of a fear, not at all authorial, of DPC to agitate his patreons too much. Bella is already a character full of objective difficulties (all unaddressed, but after all we are only halfway through the game, it will be talked about in the next 10 years), dark omens about her future and her health that make her the LI for true believers, she fights it out with Quinn for the highest chance of a bounty hidden not even too well in the grass.
But in spite of this for this fear of other people's peas he has given us a flashback so aseptic and strange that any theory of a "sixth sense" development, however futile, finds no objective grounds for objection

 

[Tremonia]

We need to understand the correct meaning of NTR. NTR is short for Netorare. It basically means cheating when you are in a happy relationship.

Dude, only one point: the discussion between Josy & Maya in the library after Jill told them she is dating MC. And that's not the only point in this game. To the LI girls it is always a relationship. MC didn't have to say this. No one have to say "btw babe we're in a relationship now". This game is NTR and those Anti-NTR-Snowflakes deny it for one reason only: even they enjoy this good piece of work and fap to Jill, Josy and Co. Let's face the fact: in their dreams they're loving to be cucked by Quinn. There's nothing and nobody who could prove me wrong.

 

[ffive]

This game is NTR

Per Maya's request Maya & Josy explicitly don't require the MC (or for that matter themselves) to be exclusive coupling. At least as far as they're concerned MC can bang the entire college, and it won't be cheating.

Sage considers MC to be a fuck buddy with no strings attached. Again, no cheating. She certainly didn't mind another girl recognizing MC's dick during Tybalt's presentation.

Bella and (especially) Jill are somewhat different matter. Both evidently can break up with MC (or refuse to get serious) if Fuckface sticks his dick in other girls.

 

[SkaKami]

Dude, only one point: the discussion between Josy & Maya in the library after Jill told them she is dating MC.
MC didn't have to say this. No one have to say "btw babe we're in a relationship now".

Dating doesnt necesarrily include being in a relationship, as sad it is, welcome to the 21th century.
Ofc nobody would say sth like this literally, but it would be just common sense to communicate with the person you are dating if you want to take it more serious.

But lets not polarize all that. Heres my suggestion: If i think sth is not NTR, and you think it is NTR, and we both are good with it... i think we should be fine right?

 

[SomboSteel]

And that's why it was an interlude and probably the least popular update so far.

to the discerning individual, the Interlude was only "bad" because it failed at what it was trying to achieve. if DPC fully committed to actually telling Zoey's story, as opposed to the half assed whatever that we ended up getting, then i believe people in general would be more satisfied with it. conceptually the Interlude is perfectly fine, its the execution that DPC dropped the ball on

I think you're in the wrong place if you want to see "how actual relationships work", It's creator's fantasy story written by them, which according to them is pleasing for them to write and majority to read with business perspective in mind, not winning Oscars for it. And like @Hank21 said You cannot dissuade people of the opinion that Being a DIK has a decent/good story. It's just comparably better or one of best out there in the world of 3D VNs, else most of the plot here wouldn't make sense in a normal novel or a normal movie.

comparing just to AL, the characters and relationships were much more compelling and authentic (for lack of a better word) than their BaDIK counterparts. less obvious stereotypes/tropes, more dealing with "real" problems (looking at you cringeworthy Tybalt blackmail plot), much more real character growth/development. even with the issues that game has, i dont think any character in BaDIK has come close to Liam. so i think its more than fair to compare his current work to his previous work when talking about strengths and flaws. and i already said that people can think the story it good and fun and enjoyable, but they are doing themselves a disservice if they have closed their minds to the possibility that it could be much better than it is as an actual story. there is nothing wrong with constructive criticism and wanting DPC to do better

I wouldn't accuse Creator of "selling out" without having any proof of what original story, if any, the creator intended to produce other than this. It comes out as whiny since you didn't got what you wanted or had in mind. You have to understand, at the end, the creator is doing exactly what they started out as.

now you are making as many assumptions that you say im making. we have a differing opinion here, so we just agree to disagree.

You can't expect them to serve only you or a minority of people and waste the resources on side scenes which have very little to no effect on the protagonist as character or his relationship or his story

the Madame..........