Tadpol

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Can you tell me if you've got any solid theories on why the Episode 9 is called Vixens?
Looking for a translation of vixen (not fluent in English), I found this:

"a spirited or fierce woman, especially one seen as sexually attractive."

I thought it might refer to a possible temptation for the MC. Depending on the choice of EP8, either it will be "open bar" to bang all the girls (even more than before); or it will be the MC facing the temptation of these girls now that he has chosen an LI.

In French we have the expression "cunning as a fox". I don't know if this quality attributed to the fox is also found in English. If so, it can also mean that the MC will have to deal with cunning or even sly girls.
 

Cabin Fever

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I don't know about that. His facial expressions of the girls in the lewd scenes with the MC has been spot on. Look at how enthusiastic he made these two:

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Uhh. OK. But at least Jade is happy to be getting some sexual attention:

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Scratch that.

Bella was out of the action for quite a while, so she's more into it:

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Well...

There is, of course, Lily. She's a professional at making a customer think he's pleasuring her:

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Shit. That looks like she's smelling fromunda cheese.

OK. These two definitely are into it:

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Dammit. Fuckface wasn't in that, so they're turning each other on. (and me, too, btw)

At least Jill has a bit of sexy look about her:

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Crap. Fuckface isn't exactly in that one either. You might have a point.


But look at the bright side. At least DPC didn't do this bullshit with any of the mains yet:

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NOTHING fucks up a pretty face more than ahegao. I can't believe he did that to those two beauties, especially my Nicole. He couldn't save that stupid shit for Madame, where nobody would have given a fuck?
But yet people crucify me when I said while DPC was the pinnacle years ago and still remains in the top echelon, other devs have moved past him and set a higher standard. :ROFLMAO:
 

Blackreaper

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Can anyone please help me, am unable to use patreon due to some change in regulations in my country and card keeps declining, steam version no mac version available, anyway for me to contact pink cake, discord blocked, twitter blocked.... T_T even though am ready to pay this happens.
 

kyrlian

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Everything counts: do you really think that quarrelling with Caleb is a good idea? do you really think that helping Derek with the nerd's water balloon prank at the party won't have consequences? do you really think that flushing the notes in the toilet won't have consequences? I bet someone will fail the exams and leave B&R in episode 9 or 10 if you did it.
No. You don't understand how branching storylines work in videogames. You can't make anyone leave B&R because every character with a face and a name is part of the main story for everyone. If you do that (meaningful impact = make someone fail and leave) for every choice you will soon get dozens of branches that grow exponentially after every chapter and that's impossible to track.

You can only do that at the very ending of the game when the branches are limited, there will be a point when your actions are 'judged' and that will give you an ending, that's the only way to do it in this kind of game, any other development path will end in failure.

OR you can make some unknown fail and thus render the choice inconsequential with very little impact.

So far DPC has added some reactivity but the way branching works is this: the LI's are the optional branches (the side quests/faction quests you'll find in every RPG) and the main story (go to B&R, Hell Week, rebuild, Maya's tuition) is the same for everyone, your choices don't change the main story in the slightest atm. I'll give you an example: it doesn't matter if you fucked Jade or not, the outcome of the meeting at the Burke's will be the same for everyone because the meeting is part of the main story and it has to be the same for everyone, (some fucked Jade and some didn't, some are in love with Sage and some don't), maybe with some additional scenes explaining what happened if you are on Sage's optional path. But Sage will not get angry and stop talking to you forever because she will appear in future scenes of the main story and the story needs her to be at least friends with Tremolo, you can't make two or more different games at this point (one with angry Sage and one without angry Sage) just based on that choice.
 

Cabin Fever

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No. You don't understand how branching storylines work in videogames. You can't make anyone leave B&R because every character with a face and a name is part of the main story for everyone. If you do that (meaningful impact = make someone fail and leave) for every choice you will soon get dozens of branches that grow exponentially after every chapter and that's impossible to track.

You can only do that at the very ending of the game when the branches are limited, there will be a point when your actions are 'judged' and that will give you an ending, that's the only way to do it in this kind of game, any other development path will end in failure.

OR you can make some unknown fail and thus render the choice inconsequential with very little impact.

So far DPC has added some reactivity but the way branching works is this: the LI's are the optional branches (the side quests/faction quests you'll find in every RPG) and the main story (go to B&R, Hell Week, rebuild, Maya's tuition) is the same for everyone, your choices don't change the main story in the slightest atm. I'll give you an example: it doesn't matter if you fucked Jade or not, the outcome of the meeting at the Burke's will be the same for everyone because the meeting is part of the main story and it has to be the same for everyone, (some fucked Jade and some didn't, some are in love with Sage and some don't), maybe with some additional scenes explaining what happened if you are on Sage's optional path. But Sage will not get angry and stop talking to you forever because she will appear in future scenes of the main story and the story needs her to be at least friends with Tremolo, you can't make two or more different games at this point (one with angry Sage and one without angry Sage) just based on that choice.
No, YOU don't understand how branching storylines work in general, let alone videogames.

What's stopping DPC from having a character with a face and a name to exit the game early? Not everyone is integral to the story. There is no rule that stipulates that EVERYONE must be involved to the end of the story. It has already happened multiple times in this very game, not to mention having a main LI exit his last game in an extremely dramatic fashion well before the end of the game.
 

Ukghar

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Can anyone please help me, am unable to use patreon due to some change in regulations in my country and card keeps declining, steam version no mac version available, anyway for me to contact pink cake, discord blocked, twitter blocked.... T_T even though am ready to pay this happens.
You didn’t provide enough info imo. Which country and how things are restricted exactly? Quite likely only people from your country may have some knowledge on how to solve these problems.

You can try to answer DPC post (first under N7’s first post with links), where he’s asking for funds and tell him what problems you have. DPC should not be very pissed at sb who offers him money for his work (but of course, you can be ignored).
 
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Can anyone please help me, am unable to use patreon due to some change in regulations in my country and card keeps declining, steam version no mac version available, anyway for me to contact pink cake, discord blocked, twitter blocked.... T_T even though am ready to pay this happens.
You can try to answer DPC post (first under N7’s first post with links), where he’s asking for funds and tell him what problems you have. DPC should not be very pissed at sb who offers him money for his work (but of course, you can be ignored).


Brilliant! When you write to him, don’t forget to tell him how you are seeking help on F95. He’ll be…hmmm…passionate in his response. And let him know Sombo says hello.


Alternatively, and sarcasm aside, if you are blocked from paying for the game on Patreon and Steam, you might seek it out on GOG. Either that, or simply download it for free using the links on the first page.


I applaud you for wanting to contribute to the game development through funding him. But under no circumstances do you write to him using anything associated with or mentioning this site. It’s a full proof way to get banned from his Patreon and Discord.
 
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felicemastronzo

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No, YOU don't understand how branching storylines work in general, let alone videogames.

What's stopping DPC from having a character with a face and a name to exit the game early? Not everyone is integral to the story. There is no rule that stipulates that EVERYONE must be involved to the end of the story. It has already happened multiple times in this very game, not to mention having a main LI exit his last game in an extremely dramatic fashion well before the end of the game.
Exactly, being an LI does not mean that you MUST have an ending, while not being an LI does not mean that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have an ending
 

Ottoeight

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No. You don't understand how branching storylines work in videogames. You can't make anyone leave B&R because every character with a face and a name is part of the main story for everyone. If you do that (meaningful impact = make someone fail and leave) for every choice you will soon get dozens of branches that grow exponentially after every chapter and that's impossible to track.
Hello Dude, did you forget about Cathy and Mona and what happened to them? MC banged them, too.
 
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kyrlian

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DPC did something that he himself probably did not expect - third-party girls are no less interesting than the main ones. And now he has to expand their role, because the players are interested.
100%. Also, many players need new girls to keep them engaged and DPC is adding more and more and I bet he will keep doing that. This is one of the things that make the development take longer and longer, just look at the amount of new girls and scenes, it's crazy.

Let's just hope no Madame 2.0 is coming lol

What's stopping DPC from having a character with a face and a name to exit the game early? Not everyone is integral to the story. There is no rule that stipulates that EVERYONE must be involved to the end of the story. It has already happened multiple times in this very game, not to mention having a main LI exit his last game in an extremely dramatic fashion well before the end of the game.
There is no rule that stipulates that everyone must be involved to the end of the story (just the plot), but when that kind of thing happened (Mona or Cathy) it happened to every player.

As I said, you can make some unknown student fail and leave making the choice irrelevant, that's what you want? I think it's best to save it for later (when it can be meaningful) just like DPC is doing.

The fire was the start of the ending of AL, everything after that was just the final part (If I remember correctly with very little choice after the fire). But this is a way more complex and longer game and we're at chapter 9 of 16-20.

DPC can introduce another "fire choice" anytime but that's a completely different kind of choice, the 12? 14? you already made atm haven't changed the main story. They will at the right time. Since we're at the half of the story it's not the time to do that, you do that at the ending like every game developer does (and DPC did in AL, because unlike you he knows what he is doing) to avoid excessive branching. You can try to understand how it works or not, I don't care.
 

kyrlian

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Hello Dude, did you forget about Cathy and Mona and what happened to them? MC banged them, too.
Again, the fate of Cathy and Mona is the same to everyone because is part of the main story.

Banging them is optional, changes nothing to avoid them leaving. Think about it bro.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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100%. Also, many players need new girls to keep them engaged and DPC is adding more and more and I bet he will keep doing that. This is one of the things that make the development take longer and longer, just look at the amount of new girls and scenes, it's crazy.

Let's just hope no Madame 2.0 is coming lol
I hope DPC will cut her from the game, almost everyone agrees that she's a mistake.
 

Riggnarock

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Just unnecessary drama that DPC wanted to implement on all routes but if you don't have anything with Jade there's nothing to worry about
It might be becouse Tibalt is Sage's brother and becouse Tibalt just gotten through a messy breakup that he fears that he might hold some power over the outcome for Maya, they don't like eachother and tibalt might say, no she doesn't deserve it Mommy & Daddy..fuck, fuck fuck!! Now i gotta beg Tibalt to not hold things with Jill over the future of Maya

See where i'm going with this?
 
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Riggnarock

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doesn't everyone get that "im pregnant thing?" so i assume it can't be someone that the mc can decide not to have sex with (who also isn't having sex with others) but i might've missed something tbh
I personaly think it's tight to our mom's diary, we end up reading through it and come to the page where she describes how the pregnancy started, afterall the last page's we readed is how our dad meets our mom and start talking to eachother :D
 

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100%. Also, many players need new girls to keep them engaged and DPC is adding more and more and I bet he will keep doing that. This is one of the things that make the development take longer and longer, just look at the amount of new girls and scenes, it's crazy.

Let's just hope no Madame 2.0 is coming lol



There is no rule that stipulates that everyone must be involved to the end of the story (just the plot), but when that kind of thing happened (Mona or Cathy) it happened to every player.

As I said, you can make some unknown student fail and leave making the choice irrelevant, that's what you want? I think it's best to save it for later (when it can be meaningful) just like DPC is doing.

The fire was the start of the ending of AL, everything after that was just the final part (If I remember correctly with very little choice after the fire). But this is a way more complex and longer game and we're at chapter 9 of 16-20.

DPC can introduce another "fire choice" anytime but that's a completely different kind of choice, the 12? 14? you already made atm haven't changed the main story. They will at the right time. Since we're at the half of the story it's not the time to do that, you do that at the ending like every game developer does (and DPC did in AL, because unlike you he knows what he is doing) to avoid excessive branching. You can try to understand how it works or not, I don't care.
I'm not sure whether I'd want more side girls or just for the ones already present in the game to be further expanded upon. I'm kind of leaning more towards just more stuff with the ones already introduced.
 
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AchedCroissant

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It might be becouse Tibalt is Sage's brother and becouse Tibalt just gotten through a messy breakup that he fears that he might hold some power over the outcome for Maya, they don't like eachother and tibalt might say, no she doesn't deserve it Mommy & Daddy..fuck, fuck fuck!! Now i gotta beg Tibalt to not hold things with Jill over the future of Maya

See where i'm going with this?
Tybalt is too busy crying
 
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