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chronomate

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Wanting to wonder and building up hype are two very different things that I think you're conflating. Sure, he wants you to wonder who she is, but that whole scene is just a very small part of only one path. There's very little hype around it beyond what you yourself put on it.It's not the biggest mystery in the episode by a long shot and its definitely not a part that was highlighted by DPC. It's just a girl who wanted to be mysterious and have no strings attached in her Halloween costume. Why can't it be just that? It's cool to theorize about what it could be, but if you go into next episode expecting it to be anything but an easter egg, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. Like, damn the pregnancy thing was hyped way harder last season and it just turned out to be Arieth, probably the least important girl in the HOTs.
Can we both just agree that we've already talked way more about "mystery girl" than the subject warrants and leave it at that? All I was trying to say was that it would be more narratively satisfying for this to be setting up something new, as opposed to shoe-horning in some minor character for a one-off. At this point though I honestly just don't care anymore.

I imagine possibly because allowing minor infractions leave some possibility to get out of trouble, while it'd be basically no excuse for more serious actions, and then you'd have players up in arms why they're allowed to sabotage their game with no warning how serious consequences they'd face, and why the game forces them to take such self-defeating actions if they want to see associated scenes.
As you pointed out, though, there's a significant difference between grabbing someone's butt and getting a blowjob. One you might be able to talk your way out of, but the other? I think common sense would be all the warning of potential consequences the player would need. Also, the game wouldn't force them into the actions to see those scenes, because not being in a relationship at all is a path unto itself, one where you can currently see all such content without the consequences.

The variable is completely hidden from the player so that's not an option. And i really don't see why it's so supposedly puzzling to you that the MC is allowed to perform minor infidelities but not serious one. As you note yourself there's clear difference between these two types of actions, you don't need to be shown any variable to figure it out.
The variable already exists in the game right now. And has different values for different actions, and is hidden from the player. Not only is it an option, it's already in place... it simply isn't applied as broadly as it could be. Also, as you say, "there's a clear difference between these two types of actions, you don't need to be shown any variable to figure it out", so whether you see it or not doesn't matter.

You might as well ask why the MC is allowed to punch people in the face but not smash their skulls open. The answer should be just as obvious.
Last I checked, there are no options anywhere in this game to smash anyone's skull open. There are, however, options to cheat on your girlfriend, it's just that some are inexplicably walled off under certain circumstances. So no, those two things are not equivalent.

MC knows Vinnie is a former DIK with much clout and he's likely heard quite a few stories from the other DIKs about him during his fraternity days. He knows the sort of person he's dealing with. Oscar *isn't* an amateur fighter nor is he a former DIK with much clout and stories surrounding him. They aren't the same sort of people, so am not sure why you say that treating them differently doesn't make sense.
We don't know that they aren't the same sort of people, because we know next to nothing about Vinny and literally nothing about Oscar. The amateur fighter hypothetical was meant to show precisely that.

Thankfully it doesn't matter, because none of this has anything to do with my point, which is simply this: we have a game that allows you to do self-destructive things (like fighting or cheating), but only sometimes and in some ways, and is not always consistent in terms of the hierarchy of said events. I am of the opinion that, given that this content already exists in the game, that the game already tracks how your actions impact other people, and that the game going forward is supposedly about how your actions will impact your relationships with those people, that a more open approach to player choice would make for deeper and more interesting gameplay. If you put behaviors in the game as choices, I don't see the value in walling the player off from certain choices merely because they are negative, in a game about the ramifications of one's choices.

If you don't have a problem with that, or don't see it the way I do, that's totally fine. I'm not in the business of trying to talk people into enjoying something LESS... I'm just not that big an asshole. I'm merely sharing my personal opinion on how the mechanics of the game seem to be evolving.
 

The Glorious LIME

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So do we think that there will be a Maya/Josy spilt allowing for a single girl route. Honestly Maya is probably one of the few girls im not really interested in.
 

c.mork

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Was just thinking about the cheating score, and how it could come into play. Sage or the throuple for example could easily find out if you did something with their HOT sisters, but how would Jill for example find out whether you grabbed Nicole's ass or not. They hardly move in the same circles for them to talk.

One explanation could be that the whole DIK mansion is monitored with cameras, but wouldn't that be too much like Acting Lessons? There the villain (in)conveniently reveals to your LI all your cheatings with photo evdience. Idk if DPC would do the same thing twice.
 

felicemastronzo

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Was just thinking about the cheating score, and how it could come into play. Sage or the throuple for example could easily find out if you did something with their HOT sisters, but how would Jill for example find out whether you grabbed Nicole's ass or not. They hardly move in the same circles for them to talk.

One explanation could be that the whole DIK mansion is monitored with cameras, but wouldn't that be too much like Acting Lessons? There the villain (in)conveniently reveals to your LI all your cheatings with photo evdience. Idk if DPC would do the same thing twice.
in my opinion it will be another invisible indicator communicated telepathically as affinity was, something will happen not because the LI notices something in particular (which we are not talking about sex, but flirtation) and because of this at some point she will decide not to trust
 

Klepon

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Vinny is a damn dangerous guy. He can really ruin a life. An armed drug addict with a mental disorder. For MC, the best option would be to figure out how to arrange a fatal accident for Vinny, for all the best.
How do you see him in such a dangerous state?
Because he carried a gun? Or because of his rant at the mc?

instead it looks like someone who's trying to look like a thug. :Kappa:
So we are gonna have to wait another year for the next update eh? :(
just wait till summer.and it will be released eps.10
 

ChipLecsap

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Too many comments to keep track of here, but I'm sure more than a handful have questioned why the fuck this episode was called "Vixens".

Was it called the "Vixens" because they are three girls the mc never fucking says a word to (ok, he did lick Tiffany's cunt up on stage, but that was almost like a passing glance)? Were the three titular characters of any significance at all?

If anything, they were probably all fucking other people, and not the mc.

So why call the episode "Vixens"?

My theory - oh you knew I had a theory:

The mc has just committed to his LI by the end of episode 8, and the "Vixens" (symbolised by the three girls but not specific to them), are all the temptations the mc faces after he commits.

Now before this episode even began people had already surmised he'd be getting tempted left and right, but it has been consolidated with the "cheat tally" (tc), the counter that increments every time the mc strays from his one and only (or two in case of the throuple) love:
  • Grabbing Mel & Sarah's ass when they show off their costumes: That'll be one (1) warning. But then not grabbing their asses indicates you don't have a pulse.
  • Kissing Cammy back when she greets you at the beginning: Another single (1) warning. But seriously, the girl already had her lips on the mc's lips, to emotionlessly stand there, you just don't do that the our beloved Cammy!
  • Enjoying the alcohol swap too much with Becky: Another (1) warning. After all we've learnt about Becky this episode, it's easy to forgo this penalty. :sick:
  • Enjoying the alcohol swap too much with Tiffany: And another (1). This one's harder to pass up than Becky. Tiffany's definitely a little vixen! :devilish:
  • Greeting Tiffany's hole: She invites you too! Another (1) transgressions!
  • Gently grabbing Bianca's ass: Oops, there goes another (1) warning. It was just for the photo, I swear!
  • Going for the full grab on Bianca's ass: Ok, you're pushing it now, that's a two-pointer (2) there! Come on, you're on Jill's branch and your full on groping her friends ass in a photo shoot standing right next to Jill? Bravo!
  • Telling Josy you sometimes think how the two of you could have ended together: Yeah, that's a point (1). Stop living in the past bro!
  • Telling Josy you always think how the two of you could have ended together: You know it's gonna add two (2) to the score. What are you thinking, you've chosen some hot ass but you're always looking over the fence? Yeah, the grass is always greener.
  • Getting disappointed when Sage takes you to your room to... take a picture: That's a single (1) hit. Stop thinking with your dick, man!
  • Posing sexy with Sage for the shoot: Yeah, another (1) warning. I dunno, it's all for John Boy's album, just a little fun.
  • Going for the double ass grab when posing with Mel & Sarah: Only one (1) infraction point for this. What do you expect, not everyone can be Keanu Reeves with the hover hands. My motto, if a girl is cool with you grabbing their ass, grab their fucking ass! And I don't need to say what you do when you've got two girls down for it!
  • Grabbing Nicole's ass when chatting with her and Lily: Another (1) point for the collection. There's an option to not grab her ass. Can't say I know how that pans out, never clicked on that one.
  • Grabbing Lily's ass instead of Nicole's: And another (1) point, damn!: You only get to do this if Nicole doesn't like your mc. Interesting that Nicole takes precedence over Lily here. Interesting. I would have liked to have a choice.
  • Enjoying Lily tits on display: And... another (1) point. I'm sorry, when a girl flashes you her tits, you don't fucking try to change the subject!
  • Making out with Riona: This is a double (2) penalty! Oh sweet, sweet Riona. When a girl so candidly tells you, "I like making out with you." what's a faithful guy to do?
  • Asking Heather for a rain check: Sorry, but that's a (1) penalty. Kinda harsh, the mc's just keeping his options open. I mean, preparing for a relationship failure is surely a healthy attitude...
  • Letting Heather use you: Yeah, dos (2) penales right there. But it was therapeutic I swear!
  • Touching Mel & Sarah's tits when they are "auditioning" for the costume contest: Two (2) points for two pairs. I guess that's fair.
  • Suggesting you'll only fuck Sandy when she's working: Just one (1) point. I mean, that's keeping it professional right?
And there we have it. A fuck load of temptation, only moments after committing to the girl of your dreams. Ok, not exactly moments, it took a fucking year actually, could anyone really be blamed for succumbing after being blue balled for nigh on 13 months?

So how'd you go? Did you stay true?

Worst case, I scored a 14 on my DIK M&J run - yeah, my dude was a Neutral during that throuple library scene back in the day, then the wheels fell the fuck off and he's been whoring it all over. Nah, he'll be fine, ain't nothing gonna happen, I'm sure...

The tally is only created and increased in this episode, but you can be sure its gonna be lurking in the shadows, waiting to castrate the mc when he gets down on one knee and takes his commitment to the next level! :eek:
Grabbing Lily's ass instead of Nicole's: And another (1) point, damn!: You only get to do this if Nicole doesn't like your mc. Interesting that Nicole takes precedence over Lily here. Interesting. I would have liked to have a choice.

That is such an asshole move from DPC :mad:, who the hell is not Liked by Envy ?! , it's almost a default state:LOL:
 

The Glorious LIME

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Didn't he say that this will be the pace that he will be working at from now on when he came out and defended himself with that long post? :unsure:

So I'd say it's very unlikely that we are getting the update anytime before October next year.
I guess it all depends howe many cinematics he wants to make.
But overall, whenever it releases, it's ok. He's a one man army, can't really do it faster if he wanted to while keeping the quality.
 

Bubba McSmith

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So we are gonna have to wait another year for the next update eh? :(
We don't have the interlude this time, so it should be a little shorter wait. I'm also hoping that since the party planner minigame is done that will cut back on some of the dev time as well, although the fighting game is getting an overhaul so who knows. I wouldn't be surprised if Episode 10 drops during Halloween this year.
 
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Bubba McSmith

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Does everybody really believe that Jill not cutting up that picture is the only way to get to a potential threesome between Bella/Jill? I'm seeing the same conclusion on here and on the reddit.

Personally, I think it will just be a way to get back on the Jill path later on in the game, as everything Jill revolves around that picture. I can't imagine DPC locking out such a highly desired lewd scene to only such a difficult path. I never got it in my 9 runs. You would have to pursue both Jill and Bella all the way to Episode 8, choose Bella, then betray Bella by kissing Jill in Episode 9. I don't see many Chick MCs doing that.
 

KАRАMBA

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instead it looks like someone who's trying to look like a thug.
Today he is trying to look like a thug, tomorrow he will be a thug. After this incident he probably harbored a grudge. Anyway, if someone threatens with a weapon, then he is dangerous, regardless of whether his intentions are serious or not. I think so.
 
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Raziel_8

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Does everybody really believe that Jill not cutting up that picture is the only way to get to a potential threesome between Bella/Jill? I'm seeing the same conclusion on here and on the reddit.

Personally, I think it will just be a way to get back on the Jill path later on in the game, as everything Jill revolves around that picture. I can't imagine DPC locking out such a highly desired lewd scene to only such a difficult path. I never got it in my 9 runs. You would have to pursue both Jill and Bella all the way to Episode 8, choose Bella, then betray Bella by kissing Jill in Episode 9. I don't see many Chick MCs doing that.
I think it is way more likely that it leads to a path were Jill isn't ready to give up the MC and will lead to a nice drama between Jill and Bella.
But some want to belive, same as some hope that they can add Sage, Lily and Zoey to the throuple...even when we know DPC won't make a harem...
 

felicemastronzo

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Didn't he say that this will be the pace that he will be working at from now on when he came out and defended himself with that long post? :unsure:

So I'd say it's very unlikely that we are getting the update anytime before October next year.
Honestly, once 7 months have passed, it makes very little difference when the tenth chapter comes out. between August and September, what would change?
 
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