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IRL, I agree. But I'm asking about it as a decision in game design. What is the gameplay benefit to allowing your player to potentially screw up their relationship in some ways but not others?
I imagine possibly because allowing minor infractions leave some possibility to get out of trouble, while it'd be basically no excuse for more serious actions, and then you'd have players up in arms why they're allowed to sabotage their game with no warning how serious consequences they'd face, and why the game forces them to take such self-defeating actions if they want to see associated scenes.

If it's the severity of the action, convey that in the value of the variable hit the player takes by doing it. But telling the player "you can be unfaithful here and here, but not here and here" is silly as a gameplay mechanic.
The variable is completely hidden from the player so that's not an option. And i really don't see why it's so supposedly puzzling to you that the MC is allowed to perform minor infidelities but not serious one. As you note yourself there's clear difference between these two types of actions, you don't need to be shown any variable to figure it out. You might as well ask why the MC is allowed to punch people in the face but not smash their skulls open. The answer should be just as obvious.

But MC doesn't know how dangerous either of them are. Oscar could be an amateur MMA fighter; Vinny could be a fake tough guy. MC certainly didn't know Vinny was armed.
MC knows Vinnie is a former DIK with much clout and he's likely heard quite a few stories from the other DIKs about him during his fraternity days. He knows the sort of person he's dealing with. Oscar *isn't* an amateur fighter nor is he a former DIK with much clout and stories surrounding him. They aren't the same sort of people, so am not sure why you say that treating them differently doesn't make sense.
 

PickerLewd

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Hey guys, I have three questions for the experts (pls help :)):

1. Were you able to open the black cube that's on the MC's desk, what's inside?
2. What about the notebook from episode 6? did we lose access? Rusty lends us his car in episode 9 but not the pc.
3. The old lady in the nursing home with alzheimer's is Quinn's grandmother?
 

Jericho85

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Hey guys, I have three questions for the experts (pls help :)):

1. Were you able to open the black cube that's on the MC's desk, what's inside?
2. What about the notebook from episode 6? did we lose access? Rusty lends us his car in episode 9 but not the pc.
3. The old lady in the nursing home with alzheimer's is Quinn's grandmother?
1) The cube hasn't been opened yet
2) The laptop is in the safe. The last person that Rusty lent it to was Jamie
3) Maybe? Interesting theory but not seeing much that suggests a connection to Quinn.
 

PickerLewd

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1) The cube hasn't been opened yet
2) The laptop is in the safe. The last person that Rusty lent it to was Jamie
3) Maybe? Interesting theory but not seeing much that suggests a connection to Quinn.
I can't remember where but Quinn says at one point that "she hasn't visited her in a while" and I got the idea :unsure:.
 

PickerLewd

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I've seen this asked a few times but no answers, are there some renders not unlocking? I've done all routes now start to finish and still have 10 Jill renders and 1 Josy render missing. They all say story so not sure how I could have missed them?
It's a pretty tricky new mechanic in season 3, I also thought the story renders were unlocked just by playing but they are actually hidden magazines in story scenes outside the "free roams" like for example when our MC meets Zoey to cry there is a magazine under the bench.
 
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I know it's asking a lot, but damn I pray for the dev to make a harem ending (Even though I know it's impossible to happen), it seems silly but this game really made me care about several characters (Derek best friend forever). I can't see myself choosing at the end of the game, especially between Sage and Bella, and I found myself really liking Lily, Quinn, Nicole and other characters.
 
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MC knows Vinnie is a former DIK with much clout and he's likely heard quite a few stories from the other DIKs about him during his fraternity days. He knows the sort of person he's dealing with. Oscar *isn't* an amateur fighter nor is he a former DIK with much clout and stories surrounding him. They aren't the same sort of people, so am not sure why you say that treating them differently doesn't make sense.
Wait a minute, you rate someone like Vinny that highly?
Who has a negative reputation in the dik group? And vandalised the library that MC has cleaned up?
is anyone experienced this?. im stuck in the loop with maya isabella josy and sage after come back from main hall
check the first page..
There is an update to fix the loop
 
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The unseen

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So, I think I found a bug. in gallery for scenes, Lily's scene seems to have a bug. When MC starts texting her,
It doesn't go from this scene to the next scene. her text (with the emoji one) is stuck. and other texts won't appear. Do you have this problem too?
 

Lackofaname

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Possible symptoms might include

2. You may have the wrong build. The persistent provided are for the latest build for each application. (0.8.3 for Season 1&2 and interlude for Season 3. I still haven't updated my saves for the latest episode as I'm still working on optimizing each route for the provided saves)
UGH.. I have 0.8.2 what a fool, gonna try to fix it and let you know, thanks a lot my friend.. (y)
 

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Vinny is a damn dangerous guy. He can really ruin a life. An armed drug addict with a mental disorder. For MC, the best option would be to figure out how to arrange a fatal accident for Vinny, for all the best.
Sounds just like one of these orders for Agent 47. Haven't seen any bold dudes with a mark behind their head tho.
 

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Ok. The log entry for Rusty selling his car is still saying he sold his car, even though he said he didn't.
From a fresh import save and playing on 0.9.1.
I was wondering if the same thing is happening with a vanilla game? And yes, I use a mod.
 

Raziel_8

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You can punch Oscar, but not Vinny. I don't understand the factors DPC is using to decide which options are and aren't locked away anymore.
IIRC you can punch Vinny even if you have neutral affinity, if you punched Tommy in, i think it was ep 6, where he attacks the MC. Not sure if fighting with Caleb is important as i always do that.
The variable is completely hidden from the player so that's not an option. And i really don't see why it's so supposedly puzzling to you that the MC is allowed to perform minor infidelities but not serious one. As you note yourself there's clear difference between these two types of actions, you don't need to be shown any variable to figure it out. You might as well ask why the MC is allowed to punch people in the face but not smash their skulls open. The answer should be just as obvious.
I mean, it doesn't make much sense how it's implemented imo.

Like you can kiss Cammy in public, can grab Nicole's ass and enjoy Lilys tits, grab Bianca's ass (as chick)...but you need dik affinity to grab Sarah/Mel's asses, why ?

You can't kiss Riona in MC's bedroom, but you can make out it with her publicly in the theatre.

Even as chick on Jill path you can lick Tiffany on stage infront of the whole party, but even as dik you can't let Heather ''use you'' in a private room and i don't see much difference in giving or receiving oral, in terms of severity.
Vinny is a damn dangerous guy. He can really ruin a life. An armed drug addict with a mental disorder. For MC, the best option would be to figure out how to arrange a fatal accident for Vinny, for all the best.
You give him too much credit, i found him rather pathetic as he was introduced this ep.
Really bringing a gun to a frat party, using it because the MC tells him off, going on how the MC is a dog, while he needs a gun to feel powerful...as i said, rather pathetic. I really hope he isn't the main antagonist.
Also shooting someone is bad for business , pretty sure he knows this, as he is a apparently a succesfull drug dealer.
Him being an addict we don't know.
That being said, a gun was shown, so the gun will go off at some point.
 
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