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VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

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felicemastronzo

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Roundell said:
The 3some with Quinn is before MC asks Sage to go to a date and start a relationship, and Sage knows that the last thing Quinn wants is a boyfriend and is not going to steal MC from her. "I know you don't kiss boys", says to her.
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but there had already been the rebound guy crisis in which MC doesn't know if the role of fuckbuddy suits him anymore and even then he expressly wants their relationship to evolve. so MC's intentions are already clear, the scene during the walk at the end is just a repetition of what happened at the HOTs party (necessity of the story after the moment of the big decision).

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Sorry, nothing you say makes any sense. If DPC is going to do from now on Sage the stupid nympho that only wants to organize 3somes without thinking in the consequences or the logic of the story, I will leave her path for good. But I don't think that. If you are right, it would be awful writing, just for a silly scene of a 3some with Maya. No sale.
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but then if Sage really considers Josy a dangerous ex, would it really be such a good idea to kiss her in front of MC? Does she want him to get excited thinking about Josy? she clearly thinks it's no longer a problem for him

I never said that Sage will do just that, only that it seems clear to me that DPC winks at this situation, I don't think it's a coincidence if in the same chapter Sage kisses Josy, Maya admits that she finds Sage very attractive and Sage throws up the possibility of future threesomes. then it can be a joke or an omen.

who then would remain for the possible threesomes? who would these available girls be and who would enjoy Sage's full trust?
Melanie and Sarah? I don't think they are so in symbiosis with Sage

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And Sage and MC being friends even if for at least two chapters Sage treats MC like shit (awful writing. MC should tell her to go to hell after getting his guitar back when she tries to blackmail him with that), even if MC refuses to have sex with her for several occasions, or even is she dumps her after asking her for a date, is just for the plot sake, to involve Sage in Maya's problems, in the party, and other things.
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since their friendship begins with the guitar episode I'd say MC didn't feel he was so mistreated.

and MC also has a very marginal role in Sage's choice to help Maya, he is involved only after everything has been done and decided in the usual role of moral support. at the limit it is MC who is forcibly involved in having to accompany simple friends to a meeting of which he could be interested in little or nothing

Roundell said:
Sage and MC flirting is for letting open the door of a future relationship between then, because is a porn game, not because it has sense. Again, Sage's acts only make sense if MC and her are involved in a relationship, first "fuck buddies" and friends, then a more serious one.
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but that goes for all LIs, they are all in a porn game. but only Sage is the one who has to remind at every opportunity that she is still available (even if she just got dumped). Maya and Bella for example never do it, Jill only once but only under certain very specific conditions (only if she was left for Bella), Josy is the only one we can say does something similar to Sage, but in a much less direct.

according to me it's not a necessity, it's a DPC choice
 
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Hey, guys. If you are on the Josy/Maya branch, which affinity works best: neutral or chick? I tried neutral in the past, and while it works well enough, I found that some interactions with Maya were not available if you did not behave as a chick. I even recall a huge chick interaction with her at the very beginning of the story. But what about Josy? Does she fully interact with the MC if he behaves as a chick? My guess is that it should be OK, since she is into girls as well, but I am not sure. So there lies my question: neutral or chick affinity for these two?
 
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Jumbi said:
Hey, guys. If you are on the Josy/Maya branch, which affinity works best: neutral or chick? I tried neutral in the past, and while it works well enough, I found that some interactions with Maya were not available if you did not behave as a chick. I even recall a huge chick interaction with her at the very beginning of the story. But what about Josy? Does she fully interact with the MC if he behaves as a chick? My guess is that it should be OK, since she is into girls as well, but I am not sure. So there lies my question: neutral or chick affinity for these two?
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since Maya is there, CHICK is recomended, for Josy there are no restrictions
 
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felicemastronzo said:
but there had already been the rebound guy crisis in which MC doesn't know if the role of fuckbuddy suits him anymore and even then he expressly wants their relationship to evolve. so MC's intentions are already clear, the scene during the walk at the end is just a repetition of what happened at the HOTs party (necessity of the story after the moment of the big decision).


but then if Sage really considers Josy a dangerous ex, would it really be such a good idea to kiss her in front of MC? Does she want him to get excited thinking about Josy? she clearly thinks it's no longer a problem for him

I never said that Sage will do just that, only that it seems clear to me that DPC winks at this situation, I don't think it's a coincidence if in the same chapter Sage kisses Josy, Maya admits that she finds Sage very attractive and Sage throws up the possibility of future threesomes. then it can be a joke or an omen.

who then would remain for the possible threesomes? who would these available girls be and who would enjoy Sage's full trust?
Melanie and Sarah? I don't think they are so in symbiosis with Sage


since their friendship begins with the guitar episode I'd say MC didn't feel he was so mistreated.

and MC also has a very marginal role in Sage's choice to help Maya, he is involved only after everything has been done and decided in the usual role of moral support. at the limit it is MC who is forcibly involved in having to accompany simple friends to a meeting of which he could be interested in little or nothing


but that goes for all LIs, they are all in a porn game. but only Sage is the one who has to remind at every opportunity that she is still available (even if she just got dumped). Maya and Bella for example never do it, Jill only once but only under certain very specific conditions (only if she was left for Bella), Josy is the only one we can say does something similar to Sage, but in a much less direct.

according to me it's not a necessity, it's a DPC choice
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Sorry, this debate has become a loop. I'm not going to repeat my arguments and it seems that you are just contradicting me for the hell of it, because I doubt very much that you yourself believe what you're writing. Actually I have only read the first paragraph of this one. I only say that if DPC makes Sage the stupid nympho only interested in fucking other girls no matter the consequences for MC that you say, I would probably leave her path and all the fucking game, because it would be a retarded twist for the character and BaDIK would be just another stupid porn game for a quick fap.
 
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That's my point. She's a proud person with Chad and others. Her problem with Chad is that Chad treated her like a fool and dumped her. A problem of ego an pride, not that she misses him because she was in love. But if MC rejects her multiple times, or dumps her after even proposing to go to dates with her and start a relationship, she's totally OK with that? Why? Not because it fits well with Sage's personality, but because DPC needs that she behaves differently with MC for the sake of the plot. Sage's story and general behavior with MC only makes sense if MC is in her path. If not, this character is just a "plot service". DPC makes her do whatever he needs for the sake of the story, even if it doesn't fit with her personality.

And about the kiss between Maya and MC, her reaction if MC and her and involved in a relationship is clear: she's concerned. If she were just thinking in a threesome with Maya, she would be smiling to the gossip, like she does if she's not in a relationship with her. It makes all the difference. The same that Zoey being invited at the party.

On the other hand, to think that if Sage is in a relationship with MC, is going to want a 3some with her and MC is stupid. When MC goes to live with Sage, he says to her "Maya lied to me, or kept something from me". Obviously now she thinks is her lesbianism. And she knows that MC had a crush on Maya because MC recognizes that when they are in the pool and with his attitude during the "movie night". What Sage thinks before the talk with Maya is "MC had a crush with Maya, then Josy came, Maya told MC that she was her girlfriend, and broke MC's heart, but now they seems to be friends, so it's OK if I befriend Maya too.". But after talking to Maya, she knows there were something more. Do you think that Sage, if is starting a relationship with MC, is going to try to organize a 3some with her boyfriend and the girl he had a crush with only a few weeks ago? A girl that is into a serious relationship? And knowing that her soon-to-be-boyfriend and Maya had a real story, something that even made Maya to have doubts about her lesbianism? I´m sorry but it's absurd. No girl in the world pushes her boyfriend into the arms of a girl he had feelings for, and reciprocated, unless she's stupid or wants to be dumped.

The same way is absurd that Sage would organize a 3some with a girl that could bring problems to MC with his brothers: Heather, Josy, Elena and Maya. Do you think Derek would be OK seeing Maya doing "the walk"?

I don't think DPC will go that way. It would be stupid.
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I think a key difference between how Sage reacts to Chad and MC is honesty, since Chad was clearly hiding shit from her and she was well aware of it. But when she confronted him about it, he continued to lie and deflect. It's the lies that set her off more than anything. That, and Chad wasn't fucking her.

During the fuckbuddy phase of Sage's relationship, she didn't care who MC was fucking, for obvious reasons. In CH9 though, things are more serious. She's not fine with MC fucking around anymore and she's clearly threatened by MC's ex girlfriend (Picking Zoey for the costume contest while on Sage's path makes her expression change).

After EP9, I think Sage is only okay with MC fucking other girls so long as she's playing too. If she finds out MC is fucking other girls behind her back, she's going to get pissed. If she catches him lying about it though, then I expect we'll see MC's skin hanging outside the HOT house.
 
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There are save files in the 1st post under Extras.
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how do i use them tho? i'm pretty bad with computers and stuff, i tried to download the "season 1&2 persistent save" and the "Interlude start save" but when i boot up the game nothing shows up on the saves. am i supposed to put them in a specific folder?
 
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theultragaydude said:
how do i use them tho? i'm pretty bad with computers and stuff, i tried to download the "season 1&2 persistent save" and the "Interlude start save" but when i boot up the game nothing shows up on the saves. am i supposed to put them in a specific folder?
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Look "import", not "continue".
 
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Jericho85 said:
I think a key difference between how Sage reacts to Chad and MC is honesty, since Chad was clearly hiding shit from her and she was well aware of it. But when she confronted him about it, he continued to lie and deflect. It's the lies that set her off more than anything. That, and Chad wasn't fucking her.

During the fuckbuddy phase of Sage's relationship, she didn't care who MC was fucking, for obvious reasons. In CH9 though, things are more serious. She's not fine with MC fucking around anymore and she's clearly threatened by MC's ex girlfriend (Picking Zoey for the costume contest while on Sage's path makes her expression change).

After EP9, I think Sage is only okay with MC fucking other girls so long as she's playing too. If she finds out MC is fucking other girls behind her back, she's going to get pissed. If she catches him lying about it though, then I expect we'll see MC's skin hanging outside the HOT house.
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I don't think that a proud girl like Sage, that knows that could attract any guy in B&R could be OK with a freshman rejecting her several times and/or dumping her after proposing to her to start dating, and she accepting. I don't think that Sage would hate MC, but I don't think that she would insist in doing things with him like planning the party, hanging out together, or being so friendly and flirty with him in the party. I think it makes little sense. It's just that DPC needs that MC and Sage remain friends because he needs it for the sake of the plot, and she's friendly and flirty with him because DPC uses a good number of the same recycled scenes for Sage's boyfriend path and for Sage's acquaintance path, only changing some details.

Actually, I don't think that MC would be friend of a girl that for at least two episodes is a bitch with him. She blackmails him threatening not to return a guitar that is obviously his, and doesn't care if MC is going to have a lot of problems with Chad and the tri-alphas because of her. The logical reaction to MC once he gets his guitar back is to think "That Sage is just a selfish bitch" and forget about his promise to her. It was made under blackmail, anyway.

I think that the first two episodes of Sage are terrible writing, and all the story of Sage as just a friend of MC has mostly cero sense. I don't see why they could become friends without having the "fuck buddies" relationship. But it happens the same with other characters. Bella, for example. I don't see how a guy like MC that spend the two or three firsts episodes being an immature asshole in front of Bella could become her boyfriend at some point. It's the problem of a story so complex and with all those branches. Some of them work, some of then, don't.
 
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