liberatorus

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Well, poor Derek is insulted and punched by feminists in class, and Jade chews his ass just for expressing his ideas freely so its not so different from real world :ROFLMAO:

Anyway the fact is that in 2020's that kind of stories of gays oppressed by conservative people are a cliché. Gay themes are so mainstream that there is even a subgenre of movies and TV shows. Usually a subgenre that doesn't have a lot of success. The box failure of the movie "Bros", an attempt of a romantic comedy whit big budget and with gay theme, proves that. Gay theme is a niche one. It has its public, but I'm not one of them. I'm sorry but I'm not interested in gay themes and don't feel sympathy for a gay character just because is gay. And I think that the approach of DPC to that theme is biased and shows DPC's prejudices against conservative people.

Maya's father is a caricature people of conservative ideology and social values. Is he into some kind of a dangerous sect, or something? Because it seems he's just a Christian, and where I'm from, Christians aren't like that. Tybalt too, by the way, with that hate to poor people and social assistance. And Maya and Josy's relationship can't be more cliché, except for the fact that being a porn game, the MC has to be able to dick them in the kinkiest possible way. Again, not interested. I just hope that now that Jill has taken over in the role of Maya's savior, Maya is not going to intrude so much in Sage's path.
It's not that deep, it's porn game. DPC does a lot of feminist bashing as well. I won't sit here and claim that DPC hates women.

Tybalt is a comic relief character, that's it. There is no deep social commentary behind poor people or welfare or whatever. He is just a snobby rich asshole. Again, not that deep.

And despite it being 2023, there are still people (not just christians) that think "gay is unnatural" and behave pretty much like Maya's dad does. DPC choosing to portray that doesn't mean he has something against "conservatives" or "christians" for that matter.

And there are so many cliches in this AVN. It's a porn game after all. Like Quinn, despite being so many people's fav is pretty cliche as well. Bad girl with a soft side that she reserves for some cute interactions with the protagonist? Like that's original.
You just hate some specific cliches that's it.

And also while I agree that gay themes are pretty niche, the fact that you chose a single example and then claim that it "proves" something is hilarious. Maybe it's just a bad movie and it's flop has nothing to do with "gay themes"?
 
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Geralt From Rivia

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Megan was her name and good ass bbq was the game.

Also, Melissa hates the MC there when you cheat on them/her with the 2 bimbos at the beach if I recall.
Well, poor Derek is insulted and punched by feminists in class, and Jade chews his ass just for expressing his ideas freely so its not so different from real world :ROFLMAO:

Anyway the fact is that in 2020's that kind of stories of gays oppressed by conservative people are a cliché. Gay themes are so mainstream that there is even a subgenre of movies and TV shows. Usually a subgenre that doesn't have a lot of success. The box failure of the movie "Bros", an attempt of a romantic comedy whit big budget and with gay theme, proves that. Gay theme is a niche one. It has its public, but I'm not one of them. I'm sorry but I'm not interested in gay themes and don't feel sympathy for a gay character just because is gay. And I think that the approach of DPC to that theme is biased and shows DPC's prejudices against conservative people.

Maya's father is a caricature people of conservative ideology and social values. Is he into some kind of a dangerous sect, or something? Because it seems he's just a Christian, and where I'm from, Christians aren't like that. Tybalt too, by the way, with that hate to poor people and social assistance. And Maya and Josy's relationship can't be more cliché, except for the fact that being a porn game, the MC has to be able to dick them in the kinkiest possible way. Again, not interested. I just hope that now that Jill has taken over in the role of Maya's savior, Maya is not going to intrude so much in Sage's path.
Derek just got reprimanded by Jade, he wouldn't get off so easy in the real world right now.
I agree that the gay theme is a cliche used by media corporations to make money, but in the case of BaDIK it was presented well, unlike what we are fed today by all sorts of Netflix and others.
DPC creates interesting characters and stories instead of boring stuff, and he's very good at playing with emotions. The result was that I believed in this story - Patrick makes me antagonize him, and I want to help Maya (Haha, although this may be my saviour complex, i usually trying to save everyone in videogames :LOL: ).
I understand your position about the conservatives, and it's good that you met only adequate ones. Where I live there are still crazy clichéd fanatics, as Patrick has been presented.
And I'm still surprised, I met people like Tybalt in my life - usually they are young people whose parents are in an "important position" and they are involved in corruption. Mentally poor people who seized upon the golden trough. Especially a lot of such "golden teens" on the roads, who consider themselves the kings of life, because dad bought them a Range Rover.
Of course I understand that Tybalt was made quite caricatured for comedic effect.
Slightly off topic, this is quite an interesting point: DPC has made the routes very different, I have not yet met a person who likes everything. Someone has a route that he hates or thinks is badly written. DPC certainly has problems with writing and I see that these are typical problems of a writer-architect.
But a lot also depends on our personalities and temperament. For example, I do not like Jill's route and I think that many things in it are written incorrectly and adjusted to the "plot".
Speaking of which, my favorite characters are Sage, Quinn and more recently Zoey. Coincidence?
 

The Glorious LIME

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It's not that deep, it's porn game. DPC does a lot of feminist bashing as well. I won't sit here and claim that DPC hates women.

Tybalt is a comic relief character, that's it. There is no deep social commentary behind poor people or welfare or whatever. He is just a snobby rich asshole. Again, not that deep.

And despite it being 2023, there are still people (not just christians) that think "gay is unnatural" and behave pretty much like Maya's dad does. DPC choosing to portray that doesn't mean he has something against "conservatives" or "christians" for that matter.

And there are so many cliches in this AVN. It's a porn game after all. Like Quinn, despite being so many people's fav is pretty cliche as well. Bad girl with a soft side that she reserves for some cute interactions with the protagonist? Like that's original.
You just hate some specific cliches that's it.

And also while I agree that gay themes are pretty niche, the fact that you chose a single example and then claim that it "proves" something is hilarious. Maybe it's just a bad movie and it's flop has nothing to do with "gay themes"?
Derek just got reprimanded by Jade, he wouldn't get off so easy in the real world right now.
I agree that the gay theme is a cliche used by media corporations to make money, but in the case of BaDIK it was presented well, unlike what we are fed today by all sorts of Netflix and others.
DPC creates interesting characters and stories instead of boring stuff, and he's very good at playing with emotions. The result was that I believed in this story - Patrick makes me antagonize him, and I want to help Maya (Haha, although this may be my saviour complex, i usually trying to save everyone in videogames :LOL: ).
I understand your position about the conservatives, and it's good that you met only adequate ones. Where I live there are still crazy clichéd fanatics, as Patrick has been presented.
And I'm still surprised, I met people like Tybalt in my life - usually they are young people whose parents are in an "important position" and they are involved in corruption. Mentally poor people who seized upon the golden trough. Especially a lot of such "golden teens" on the roads, who consider themselves the kings of life, because dad bought them a Range Rover.
Of course I understand that Tybalt was made quite caricatured for comedic effect.
Slightly off topic, this is quite an interesting point: DPC has made the routes very different, I have not yet met a person who likes everything. Someone has a route that he hates or thinks is badly written. DPC certainly has problems with writing and I see that these are typical problems of a writer-architect.
But a lot also depends on our personalities and temperament. For example, I do not like Jill's route and I think that many things in it are written incorrectly and adjusted to the "plot".
Speaking of which, my favorite characters are Sage, Quinn and more recently Zoey. Coincidence?
I agree that there are a lot of cliches in BaDIK, hell, it's a compilation, but DPC manages to make it into a fun ride overall.
No one enters an AVN with the intent of enriching himself on a social and philosophical level. But DPC manages to mix a lot of stuff and make it stick. It's mostly a highly enjoyable and replayable game.
 

hastur9

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Anyways...

It occured to me today that DPC may be a fan of one of the best RPGs of all time: Baldur's Gate. Because I see a lot of the similarities between characters from those games...

Quinn seems to be inspired by Viconia D'Vir, an evil dark elf that can be turned into a true neutral in the end
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Young virgin that turns into a badass powerful woman seems to be Jill as Aerie
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you can make Aerie the virgin pregnant by the end of the game, something tells me that a similar thing may happen with Jill...

Isabella seems to be emulated from the mature and wise Jaheira
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Even their aligments match (neutral), and Jaheira looses her husband (he gets killed) in game before the MC can jump in her bed...

These three seem to me that were definitely spiritually influenced the most with BG counterparts.

There are other similarities :D
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Josy the halfling has some similarities with Mazzy the hobbit paladin... yeah, they are both short.:ROFLMAO:

Maya as Imoen...maybe...
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Sage as the rich Nalia D'Arnise...
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Derek as Minsc? :KEK::KEK::KEK:
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Or maybe I'm imagining things? What say you old timey RPG fans that played Baldur's gate?
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Where the hell is Boo!!!
 

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I agree that there are a lot of cliches in BaDIK, hell, it's a compilation, but DPC manages to make it into a fun ride overall.
No one enters an AVN with the intent of enriching himself on a social and philosophical level. But DPC manages to mix a lot of stuff and make it stick. It's mostly a highly enjoyable and replayable game.
I agree with everything you said but here's my hot take on this as a whole:

Many great stories in fictional has political & social view, themes that match up with realism of the world.

Look at how big Game of Thrones is, at the end of the day it's Political Mediaeval Era series with interesting characters & conflicting world views.

Another example how the Boys is just modern-day of the Watchmen.

The Boys comics were pretty meh but the show pretty took some of the elements from the comics & mixed with the Social elements from Watchmen.
 

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The Glorious LIME

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It's all coming together :illuminati:
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This movement would be impossible without him :love:



Yeah, good idea actually.
But if you think about it, Jill is perfect for the role of a saint, she is hated, scolded, and at the same time she is the most decent, kind and innocent character in the game. The strongest saint! :ROFLMAO:
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