shazba

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I no longer have the slightest idea of the type of plot that the DPC intends to give Isabella, in fact I don't think even the DPC knows... What a mess...
Don't take what shazba says as gospel, or most other posers here for that matter. The bulk of that is made up or unconfirmed supposition.

DPC knows what's going on (mostly), but he doesn't tell the players, so they regularly make enormous conjectures. And then they get there jollies trolling newbies with far fetched ideas.
Thanks, dude. I feel a little better now knowing that people have a habit of trolling fans who don't know DPC's work.
Let's just clarify that a bit more:

I am talking total bollocks!

There's hopefully a big reveal instore for us regarding Bella's past, and some people may have touched on the right vein, but most theories are pretty wild.

or most other posers here
By the way, I totally resent that!! :eek:

:ROFLMAO:

So, imma just repost my own comments since I can't bother to write it again but basically I think James is long gone.
The theory I find more believable is that they lost a child, James chose the cowards' way and offed himself, Bella was left all alone, met Jill in some kind of therapy session because they both lost someone (Jill lost her sister) but nevertheless Bella never fully recovered.
This could explain why Jill is so important to Bella, why Bella both asks for forgiveness and says she forgives James, and why she has so much difficulty in letting other people into her life.

Also, in EP9 although not much, we do have some additional context, nowhere during her talks with Bella Jill seems to think of James as a problem.

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If you don't pursue Jill, she doesn't seem to have a problem with their relationship, she finds it a bit weird but what she's angry about is the dishonesty from both Bella and MC towards her, if Bella really was cheating, there's no way holier-than-thou Jill would be okay with it, it'd really go against what we've seen from her character so far, just look at the way she reacts if you tell her that her friends are cheating on each other.
So, regardless of what happened between Bella and James, I really don't think MC will ever have to face him.
Interesting. I never went down that path, the bit where Jill says, "Bella..." That sounds consoling, like Jill is about to let her know it's OK. :unsure:
 

DarkKiller

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Interesting. I never went down that path, the bit where Jill says, "Bella..." That sounds consoling, like Jill is about to let her know it's OK. :unsure:
Exactly, it's clear Jill knows the reason why Isabella thinks she's cheating and her reaction was empathetic, not antagonistic, I find it hard to believe she'd react like this if James still had a place alongside Bella.
 

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So, regardless of what happened between Bella and James, I really don't think MC will ever have to face him.
My only hope of seeing some blood in this game is gone. As I said, I was counting the days to see a showdown between James and the MC. :(

Let's just clarify that a bit more:

I am talking total bollocks!

There's hopefully a big reveal instore for us regarding Bella's past, and some people may have touched on the right vein, but most theories are pretty wild.
Yeah, I kind of noticed. :KEK:
 
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My only hope of seeing some blood in this game is gone. As I said, I was counting the days to see a showdown between James and the MC. :(
That never really made a lot of sense to me to begin with, DPC avoids even the tiniest little hints of NTR or whatever you want to call it like the plague when it comes to the MGs, Isabella clearly still has feelings for James, if he returned I don't even understand how he'd write a story where she dumps her husband for a student half her age. I doubt he'd have the chops to pull it off in a believable way tbh.
 
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saynotoNTR

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That never really made a lot of sense to me to begin with, DPC avoids even the tiniest little hints of NTR or whatever you want to call it like the plague when it comes to the MGs, Isabella clearly still has feelings for James, if he returned I don't even understand how he'd write a story where she dumps her husband for a student half her age. I doubt he'd have the chops to pull it off in a believable way tbh.
If you stop to think about it, what you said makes sense... James didn't seem like an abusive type of husband to Isabella, so that was one less reason for her to dump him.

As for NTR, if James came back she would probably leave him living at her house, right? Shit... No way would she prefer a 19 year old boy over her husband...

* me sweating cold and looking slowly at my nickname *
 

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ever since i saw the Sally renders of her in the office giving her boss some lovin, i was all over wanting Sally to become a main LI. and now it seems she may be moving into that possibility. treat her nicely at the party and she starts to soften her hardass treatment of the MC. i personally think she has the hots for him but tries to remain loyal to Magnar..even though he is a boring fuckin nerd. Sally wants to party. MC will get her..hopefully.
 
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ever since i saw the Sally renders of her in the office giving her boss some lovin, i was all over wanting Sally to become a main LI. and now it seems she may be moving into that possibility. treat her nicely at the party and she starts to soften her hardass treatment of the MC. i personally think she has the hots for him but tries to remain loyal to Magnar..even though he is a boring fuckin nerd. Sally wants to party. MC will get her..hopefully.
context : sally is future wife material...
 
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What interest has the MC actually shown in her until that moment? List it and ask yourself if, were you in Jill's place, would that be all it takes to make you think that's a person you want to be your partner for life?
1. He went after her to talk to her when she was doing her yoga.
2. He kissed her at the tennis game.
3. He went to bella's house and did yoga again with her playfully and flirting untill they kiss.
4. At bellas's house when she comes to lay down close to him at the couch, he kisses her back, showing interest and only stop because she decides to stop.
5. When studying with her at the library and playing DnD all his actions are to protect her (if you are interested in her) he even "die" for her.
6. All those times with him helping her with her music, at the college, at her frat's house helping her to feel secure, giving her support. (I am not mentioning he going up on that stage because it was way later), but you know he did support her since the start.
I am pretty sure there are more situations that can be mentioned before that date, but here are a few as you requested.

Ps. "and ask yourself if, were you in Jill's place, would that be all it takes to make you think that's a person you want to be your partner for life?" You are at the college, partner for life? Not even if he went on that picnic date, he should be seen as a person to be her partner for life lol. That is so damn stupid. To be someone's partner for life requires more than that. but to start dating he had done quite a few things with and for her. And after explaining to her later that he had to go visit a friend who was sick and asked for his help and he agreed to help her BEFORE jill shows up at his door, that shouldn't be seen as something bad. A bad action from someone as a bad sign to not date him. Her loss.
Someone's life is more than the existence of the partner. There are other friends and people he has to meet on his life, not dedicate his entire life to her.
 
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Sage has a head cold (worst case the flu). She’s not dying, she recovers in a few days (we’ve all been there and typically would have continued our daily grind except COVID makes people treat anyone with a sniffle like a leper these days), and she just feels like a bit of company so she rings the mc.
That is not totally accurate. It is not Sage that calls the MC, but the other way around. And this is clearly stated in the official game's guide.

If you’re Sage’s fuck buddy, call Sage. If you’re not her fuck buddy, only call her if you don’t intend to date Jill, or you’ll be forced to pick who to disappoint.
 
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I love those double standards....

So you fucked around with sage (otherwise you dont get the hangout with her anyways) and ditched Jill to go take care of Sage...

And it doesnt cross your mind that Jill maybe sensed that Sage means more to you/the mc than her? and blame her afterwards for breaking up? oO And btw, there is no such selfish thing in life than love... the girl you love has to be ALWAYS fucking number one, otherwise you disappoint her... if she tells you otherwise, she is a liar. That how it goes... and of course, guys are nothing different. If a girl you want to be with, dithced you for whatever reason, you are for sure not "fine" with it... and no, taking care of antoher girl cause she has a little cold, is for sure not a very good reason...

Its so easy to see it out of Jills view... until this very point in ep 6. Jill and the MC didnt do that much together... they talked a bit, had a tennis date, which btw was a little weird cause MC told her the thing with Josy at this very date... so getting "serious" was out of the question anyways here.

After that Tennis date nothing meaningful happened with Jill... a little chat here and there... maybe a little makeout at Bellas, thats it... but on top of it, the incident at the prep mansion happened.

So overall, the MC is walking on thin ice anyways.... She went on a date with Rusty once, and learned that he wasnt really a honest guy back than. And now there are multiple hints that the MC might not be that a good guy and she has doubts all over the place regardless. And now instead of going with her to that special picnic date that she only made for him for his birthday... you decide the MC should look after some running nose. And you forget, on this very picnic the MC tells her how he feels towards her for the first time... without this happening, WHY should Jill take the risk and get serious with him? There is just no reason. Cause if you dont have the picnic with her... not many things are bringing them together. And by far not enough to trust the MC that much to give him her virginity on top of that.

Of course, HOW DPC did the branching here was not very good... but overall the decision of Jill makes PERFECT sense out of her view. It doesnt matter one bit if Sage got a cold or not... until that point the MC didnt showed that much that he cared for Jill...

To get together with a girl (much more so if it is a romantic girl like jill) jo need SOME things that connects... to create them, you need special moments, dates, whatssoever... this HUGE special moment was created at that picnic, without it... no special moment... so no Jill in the end... makes sense right?

No?

Hey, ever watched back to the future? If they dont go to the dance... they dont kiss... if they dont kiss... no marty mcfly... EXACTLY the same thing here. The reason why doesnt matter, the moment doesnt happen, so no fucking, and no Marty mcfly...

You dont create that special moment with Jill... no fucking Jill, thats it... it doesnt matter if Sage is sick or is sitting on a volcano that is about to break out... its all about creating THAT special moment, and there is only that one chance to do so...

I would have prefered it if DPC didnt created that decision with including a sick Sage... but well... it is what it is...

but other than that... i cant here the complaining anymore... "oooooh i fucked Sage all the time while i wanted a serious relationship with Jill, and now she rejected me cause i didnt went on picnic with her" come on... get real. And she doesnt even say it like that... it is never spoken out by Jill like this, its only the variable in the code that reveals the fact that this very point in the game is the "trigger" for this very branch... that has just NOTHING to do with characterization. my oh my...
Why all this huge text for such a small comment of mine? I won't read all this to not waste my time. But answering you. There are no double standards. He was single and enjoying his college life. She made the decision to not go further and date him after that episode. That is her decision. My MC is fine enjoying his college life.
Ps. in case you don't know the meaning of words I will explain: If she was dating, going out with other boys while also hanging out with MC, and he decided not to date her because of that, when he was doing the same (that is double standard). When you think that it is ok you be dating others around but it is not ok for the girl to do the same. This is not what we are talking here. So you wrote all that for nothing.
 
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Bella's backstory has been figured out a year or so ago. So if you want to know... Major spoilers!
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the ages don't add up at all

Lynette we know when and how she died, but even assuming Neil lied (i.e. she did not die in childbirth but in this accident) it would still be an event so far back in time that it would be completely forgotten by MC

James at most died 3 years earlier

the date of Lana's death is more uncertain, I don't think there is a direct reference, in any case no more than 13-14 years earlier
 
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the ages don't add up at all

Lynette we know when and how she died, but even assuming Neil lied (i.e. she did not die in childbirth but in this accident) it would still be an event so far back in time that it would be completely forgotten by MC

James at most died 3 years earlier

the date of Lana's death is more uncertain, I don't think there is a direct reference, in any case no more than 13-14 years earlier
Lynette died during childbirth and I don't think Neil lied about that at all. Mc also specifically mentioned that Neil cries during his birthday because of Lynette death and never moved on.

I am not sure if Lana or James died. I think Lana might be involved in drugs and James probably left when Bella lost her child. (Another far fetched theory is Mr burke killed James cause he got the hots for Bella) The way I see it Lana, James were involved in drugs which will tie in with Vinny and main storyline. Maya route-Derek spycam (drug), Josy route- Tommy drug addiction, sage route-burke and drug, Quinn/others- directly related to drugs. Since drug is one of the most important part of the main storyline. I think James and Lana will be involved somehow since Bella and Jill routes doesn't tie with the drugs.
 

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Lynette died during childbirth and I don't think Neil lied about that at all. Mc also specifically mentioned that Neil cries during his birthday because of Lynette death and never moved on.

I am not sure if Lana or James died. I think Lana might be involved in drugs and James probably left when Bella lost her child. (Another far fetched theory is Mr burke killed James cause he got the hots for Bella) The way I see it Lana, James were involved in drugs which will tie in with Vinny and main storyline. Maya route-Derek spycam (drug), Josy route- Tommy drug addiction, sage route-burke and drug, Quinn/others- directly related to drugs. Since drug is one of the most important part of the main storyline. I think James and Lana will be involved somehow since Bella and Jill routes doesn't tie with the drugs.
I also tend to believe that Lynette is dead as told, but Neil is such a bizarrely written character that I expect the worst, his amnesia is some of the most suspicious stuff in the game

Jill has told us that Lana is dead, so if she wasn't it would be a very strange twist
 
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